NavyBillsFan Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Talks in Texas I like the sounds of a new deal giving teams a extra 10 million on the cap. Thats great because the big money clubs (Dallas, Washington, Philly) are over the cap and need the extra cap room. Washington needs all the help it can get...... So you can call this a muscle deal. But with a new deal and a deal that helps the little guys of the league help make a push to start relocating teams? Costs of everything now days are growing 25% more a year. Take a look at Buffalo in 10 years. Where does this city stand as far as jobs, growth, and population. Face the facts here, the Mills of the 70's are never coming back, people are leaving the city and heading south. Do you think the NFL will start making a push to put teams in big market areas? In the long run it would kill the NFL but they dont care as long as the cash rolls in. Im sure im not alone when I say this but the day the Buffalo Bills move from Buffalo, I quit on football. I B word and moan with the best of them when they play or are managed poorly but I will never root for another NFL team outside of Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Talks in TexasIn the long run it would kill the NFL but they dont care as long as the cash rolls in. 620247[/snapback] It would kill us. Why would it kill the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Talks in TexasI like the sounds of a new deal giving teams a extra 10 million on the cap. Thats great because the big money clubs (Dallas, Washington, Philly) are over the cap and need the extra cap room. Washington needs all the help it can get...... So you can call this a muscle deal. But with a new deal and a deal that helps the little guys of the league help make a push to start relocating teams? Costs of everything now days are growing 25% more a year. Take a look at Buffalo in 10 years. Where does this city stand as far as jobs, growth, and population. Face the facts here, the Mills of the 70's are never coming back, people are leaving the city and heading south. Do you think the NFL will start making a push to put teams in big market areas? In the long run it would kill the NFL but they dont care as long as the cash rolls in. Im sure im not alone when I say this but the day the Buffalo Bills move from Buffalo, I quit on football. I B word and moan with the best of them when they play or are managed poorly but I will never root for another NFL team outside of Buffalo. 620247[/snapback] The sky is falling!!!! Really...this means little in terms of NFL football in WNY, IMO. Where's Rudy when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBillsFan Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 It would kill us. Why would it kill the NFL? 620252[/snapback] How well did a team do in LA the last time the Raiders were there? Im not saying the NFL would die but I think it would head the ways Baseball has. Most major cities have MLB teams but we all sit and watch Boston/Yanks go at it and use the rest of the league as their farm teams for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dive Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The only reason the Bills leave western NY inside the next 10 years is ownership. The fans in western NY, southern Ontario and even central NY will continue to support this team. A far second to an ownership crisis would be No cap at all, that would be very tough on the Bills ability to field competetive teams, but we would not be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 How well did a team do in LA the last time the Raiders were there?Im not saying the NFL would die but I think it would head the ways Baseball has. Most major cities have MLB teams but we all sit and watch Boston/Yanks go at it and use the rest of the league as their farm teams for players. 620265[/snapback] I think you're arguing both sides. Plus, you say this deal is good for the little guy. But from a business standpoint, is it fair to the Dan Snyders to make them give their money to the Ralph Wilsons if they are not maximizing their revenues in the first place? The fans in western NY, southern Ontario and even central NY will continue to support this team. 620289[/snapback] At the cheapest ticket prices in the league. What if they made those prices competitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The Hulkster could make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 It's only a matter of time until the football equivalent of Curt Flood comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The sky is falling!!!! Really...this means little in terms of NFL football in WNY, IMO. Where's Rudy when you need him? 620260[/snapback] Yeah, I miss Rudy's round firm ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The Hulkster could make it work. 620320[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah, I miss Rudy's round firm ass. 620364[/snapback] You are going to regret that declaration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah, I miss Rudy's round firm ass. 620364[/snapback] round guys butt ???? so it is true what they say about you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah, I miss Rudy's round firm ass. 620364[/snapback] Um... ...well ... ...it's just... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The Bills are a regional team now. They don't rely on Buffalo/suburbs for their sole fan base and business revenue stream. They are the regional team for WNY, CNY and Southern Ontario. As long as the Buffalo Bills put a decent product out there, they will be able to get 70,000+ per game. What the county and state need to start planning for , however, is a new stadium. As much as we may not think it's needed, "the Ralph" is falling closer to the bottom of the league in terms of stadium's around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The Bills are a regional team now. They don't rely on Buffalo/suburbs for their sole fan base and business revenue stream. They are the regional team for WNY, CNY and Southern Ontario. As long as the Buffalo Bills put a decent product out there, they will be able to get 70,000+ per game. What the county and state need to start planning for , however, is a new stadium. As much as we may not think it's needed, "the Ralph" is falling closer to the bottom of the league in terms of stadium's around the league. 620409[/snapback] The stadium is "fine" for now...but a new stadium will be needed in the next 10, or so, years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah, I miss Rudy's round firm ass. 620364[/snapback] Brokeback Beerball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 They should put a new stadium in Amherst, NY. That would probably do pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Brokeback Beerball? 620431[/snapback] All you clowns know I was talkin about his avatar. Dontcha? Guys? ummmm guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 But from a business standpoint, is it fair to the Dan Snyders to make them give their money to the Ralph Wilsons if they are not maximizing their revenues in the first place? At the cheapest ticket prices in the league. What if they made those prices competitive? 620296[/snapback] So... Dan Snyder didn't realize what he was buying into, a league based on preserving competativeness among franchises? Sounds like he didn't do his homework. I suggest he sell if he doesn't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 But from a business standpoint, is it fair to the Dan Snyders to make them give their money to the Ralph Wilsons if they are not maximizing their revenues in the first place? How do YOU or anyone know that Ralph isn't "maximizing [his] revenues?" Outside of selling naming rights, which would at best bring-in $1-2M a year, if even that, what revenues has he NOT been maximizing? At the cheapest ticket prices in the league. What if they made those prices competitive? If he raised tickets to "competitive" prices, the stadium wouldn't sell-out. Hell it doesn't sell out fully about 1-2 times per year as it is, and even when the Bills were in the SB every year, season tickets never sold out. Raising ticket prices isn't the answer. But I guess making side deals with beverage and apparel companies IS the way to go, even though it screws-over his fellow owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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