LabattBlue Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I know that roll outs cut down the ability to throw all over the field, but I continue to be puzzled as to why the Bills don't call more roll out pass plays for JP in lieu of the fact that this OL is getting worse not better and he is one of the most mobile QB's in the NFL. Does the staff even realize that DB is no longer under center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 There is no reasoning with anything that went on at One Bills Drive this year. I just hope JP makes it to the end of the season without leaving on a stretcher. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Mysteries of One Bills Drive ....... Jason Peters playing RT... if we have to convert a 7th round TE to play RT does that mean all of our backup linemen on the roster will get cut this offseason?? Cutting Bledsoe and handing JP the starting job with no "plan B". Passing on Corey Simon. The whole Adams/Moulds things. Why the OC gets relieved of play calling duties .... with no significant change in the way we call our plays. Mike Williams sitting the bench ... if he's injured put him on IR .. if not, find a place for him .. if he's really THAT bad, inactivate him and give some backup a chance. Why can't we stop the run OR the pass. How can a team draft and play in the free agent market for five years and STILL not come up with a single O-lineman worth a damn. Where the heck did our Defense get the idea at the beginning of the season that they were so good? Where did Clements get the idea that he was a top 5 "shut down corner". Where the heck did Willis get the idea he was the best back in the NFL. These are just a few things that have me scratching my head this season ...... I'm sure ya'll can add more if you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Mysteries of One Bills Drive ....... Jason Peters playing RT... if we have to convert a 7th round TE to play RT does that mean all of our backup linemen on the roster will get cut this offseason?? Cutting Bledsoe and handing JP the starting job with no "plan B". Passing on Corey Simon. The whole Adams/Moulds things. Why the OC gets relieved of play calling duties .... with no significant change in the way we call our plays. Mike Williams sitting the bench ... if he's injured put him on IR .. if not, find a place for him .. if he's really THAT bad, inactivate him and give some backup a chance. Why can't we stop the run OR the pass. How can a team draft and play in the free agent market for five years and STILL not come up with a single O-lineman worth a damn. Where the heck did our Defense get the idea at the beginning of the season that they were so good? Where did Clements get the idea that he was a top 5 "shut down corner". Where the heck did Willis get the idea he was the best back in the NFL. These are just a few things that have me scratching my head this season ...... I'm sure ya'll can add more if you try 530367[/snapback] Great Post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsjunkie Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Actually Mike Williams WAS on the inactive list last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Mysteries of One Bills Drive ....... Jason Peters playing RT... if we have to convert a 7th round TE to play RT does that mean all of our backup linemen on the roster will get cut this offseason?? Cutting Bledsoe and handing JP the starting job with no "plan B". Passing on Corey Simon. The whole Adams/Moulds things. Why the OC gets relieved of play calling duties .... with no significant change in the way we call our plays. Mike Williams sitting the bench ... if he's injured put him on IR .. if not, find a place for him .. if he's really THAT bad, inactivate him and give some backup a chance. Why can't we stop the run OR the pass. How can a team draft and play in the free agent market for five years and STILL not come up with a single O-lineman worth a damn. Where the heck did our Defense get the idea at the beginning of the season that they were so good? Where did Clements get the idea that he was a top 5 "shut down corner". Where the heck did Willis get the idea he was the best back in the NFL. These are just a few things that have me scratching my head this season ...... I'm sure ya'll can add more if you try 530367[/snapback] I like this post a lot. It is dead on, but I think Holcomb was pretty much plan B for the Bledsoe dumping. Really, with a salary cap, a team cannot have much more of a plan B at quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Jason Peters playing RT... if we have to convert a 7th round TE to play RT does that mean all of our backup linemen on the roster will get cut this offseason?? Well, that kind of bashes Peters. He is an undrafted Salsh type player who teams didnt know if he was a TE/OT/or DT, but the guy is an athletic freak for his size and he is a very good OT. I dont think there are any better OT's in the NFL besides Walter Jones and Roaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Well, that kind of bashes Peters. He is an undrafted Salsh type player who teams didnt know if he was a TE/OT/or DT, but the guy is an athletic freak for his size and he is a very good OT. I dont think there are any better OT's in the NFL besides Walter Jones and Roaf. 530710[/snapback] Ogden. Pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I know that roll outs cut down the ability to throw all over the field, but I continue to be puzzled as to why the Bills don't call more roll out pass plays for JP in lieu of the fact that this OL is getting worse not better and he is one of the most mobile QB's in the NFL. Does the staff even realize that DB is no longer under center? 530228[/snapback] There was an article here in beantown last week (I can't find the link) saying that one of the things the Pats were worried about (other than cramping up from laughing so hard during analyzing game film of the Bills) was Losman's scrambling ability. The Bills have this kid who can run, yet don't use him, and the Pats have Brady, who limped straight into the endzone from 10 yards out. It boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've wondered the same thing as Losman usually seems to be effective on the move. But I wonder if the Bills staff, viewing this season as a learning experience for a young QB, are reluctant to move him around because they are more focused on him learning to play from inside the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Ogden. Pace. Ogden is on the decline big time. Pace is still a high level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Well, that kind of bashes Peters. He is an undrafted Salsh type player who teams didnt know if he was a TE/OT/or DT, but the guy is an athletic freak for his size and he is a very good OT. I dont think there are any better OT's in the NFL besides Walter Jones and Roaf. 530710[/snapback] It was not intended as a "bash" against Peters .... as a matter of fact just the oppisite, I think he very well may be the brightest highlite the bills can claim this season. What it IS a bash against however, is the rest of the O-linemen on our roster. The senario is ........ we have this handful of linemen collecting pay checks because the are professional linemen ........ when we need to plug in a replacement we have to turn to Peters ...... what I ment to say with my post ..... was if we can turn an undrafted (I mistakenly called him a 7th round pick) TE into a servicable (if not good) RT ..... why can't we turn one of our O-linemen into one and leave Peters to compete at the TE position. As far as Peters being a gifted physical athletic freak .... wouldn't it have been nice to have him playing TE ..... could you envision KC converting their TE into a RT because he is a gifted athlete ..... how about SD with Gates???? It's not like the Bills have such a productive TE that Peters couldn't crack into the line up at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've wondered the same thing as Losman usually seems to be effective on the move. But I wonder if the Bills staff, viewing this season as a learning experience for a young QB, are reluctant to move him around because they are more focused on him learning to play from inside the pocket. 530732[/snapback] I agree. Unless it's a designed rollout, bootleg or sprint pass Losman has to learn how to get comfortable in the pocket. Unfortunately, suspect gameplans, injuries and other factors have taken a toll on creating a 'comfortable' learning environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Why the OC gets relieved of play calling duties .... with no significant change in the way we call our plays. 530367[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 more focused on him learning to play from inside the pocket. 530732[/snapback] WHAT POCKET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 WHAT POCKET 530972[/snapback] Exactly. They don't CALL rollouts because he just ends up running for his life on every play anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Poor planning by the coaches. No QB draws, no bootlegs, no roll-outs nothing to keep a DL off balance. Just 5-7 step drops and QB pressures (except later in the game the 3 step drops). Why not take advantage of your QBs best asset? Also it slows down the rush to help your OL. Seems pretty obvious but I guess they see it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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