Mark VI Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Now he's getting 10-15 more carries and the Bills are controlling the clock. Holcomb is the right choice now but all we heard was this plan of pounding the ball with a first year QB. Instead, the Bills abandoned the run for long streaks in all of Losmans starts. His poise was shot, asking him to do waaaaaay too much with his arm and legs. He wasn't ready to carry a full playbook and Mularkey is to blame here. The sales job stated was to run often and throw the short stuff. Isn't that exactly what they're doing now ?? Now Willis is seeing the rock and we're 2-0. Giving the ball to #21. What a concept. Kind of sets up a lot of other opportunities, if you stick to the plan. Who cares if the D stacks the line on some plays. Run it anyhow and control some clock ! The coaches corrected their mistake. The 1-3 start could easily have been 3-1, if they practiced what they preached. Losman will be back and still is our future. Hopefully, the dunderheads with the headsets will handle this better the 2nd time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 more 1st downs=more plays on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 more 1st downs=more plays on offense 478957[/snapback] 24 first downs vs. the Jets 13 by rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Now he's getting 10-15 more carries and the Bills are controlling the clock. Holcomb is the right choice now but all we heard was this plan of pounding the ball with a first year QB. Instead, the Bills abandoned the run for long streaks in all of Losmans starts. His poise was shot, asking him to do waaaaaay too much with his arm and legs. He wasn't ready to carry a full playbook and Mularkey is to blame here. The sales job stated was to run often and throw the short stuff. Isn't that exactly what they're doing now ?? Now Willis is seeing the rock and we're 2-0. Giving the ball to #21. What a concept. Kind of sets up a lot of other opportunities, if you stick to the plan. Who cares if the D stacks the line on some plays. Run it anyhow and control some clock ! The coaches corrected their mistake. The 1-3 start could easily have been 3-1, if they practiced what they preached. Losman will be back and still is our future. Hopefully, the dunderheads with the headsets will handle this better the 2nd time around. 478955[/snapback] Great post and points. I'd make a longer response, but I'm anxious to get back and see your Avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Great post and points. I'd make a longer response, but I'm anxious to get back and see your Avatar! 478972[/snapback] In Bed With Faith is her name. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Also, Willis decided to run north/south these past 2 games, as opposed to the dancing he did in our few losses. North/South = first downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I also have to toss a comment in about said avatar - BOING!!!! That chick is a brit, so not only a nice rack&pinion, but a sexy accent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I'm sure JP is asking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 cus i dont remember willis getting 7 yards on first down with JP in the game. they cant keep that 8th and 9th player in the box with holcomb, like they could with JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 They dumbed down the offense for JP, and the coaches thought it applied to them as well. Stuupid! Stuupid! Stuupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djfarr00 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 They dumbed down the offense for JP, and the coaches thought it applied to them as well. Stuupid! Stuupid! Stuupid! 479036[/snapback] [/quot JP is and was real bad. i hope he's not our future cause if he is, its pretty bleak. Clearly he could not manage whatever offense he was given and our many 3 and out drives prove it. Not to say KH is the futute, but hes a good short term fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 JP is and was real bad. i hope he's not our future cause if he is, its pretty bleak. Clearly he could not manage whatever offense he was given and our many 3 and out drives prove it. Not to say KH is the futute, but hes a good short term fix 479065[/snapback] ... He says... After FOUR games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Now he's getting 10-15 more carries and the Bills are controlling the clock. Holcomb is the right choice now but all we heard was this plan of pounding the ball with a first year QB. Instead, the Bills abandoned the run for long streaks in all of Losmans starts. 478955[/snapback] Greaaaat. Now I have to rewatch the first six games tom compare the defensive alignments vs our two QBs to reprove my point. The other factor could be that Bills were making more mistakes on offense w/ JP in there putting them in more obvious passing situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 cus i dont remember willis getting 7 yards on first down with JP in the game. they cant keep that 8th and 9th player in the box with holcomb, like they could with JP. 479032[/snapback] No...The coaches kept making stupid calls to have JP throw LONG passes instead of the dink and dunks that are being thrown by Holcomb...Also veteran WRs like Moulds refused to help out the kid by coming back for the ball....He had already made up his mind that he did not want JP throwing to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 They dumbed down the offense for JP, and the coaches thought it applied to them as well. Stuupid! Stuupid! Stuupid! 479036[/snapback] [/quot JP is and was real bad. i hope he's not our future cause if he is, its pretty bleak. Clearly he could not manage whatever offense he was given and our many 3 and out drives prove it. Not to say KH is the futute, but hes a good short term fix 479065[/snapback] People keep forgetting about the following: 1. The game that JP managed against Houston....The Jets and Miami teams that we played are pretty comparable to Houston in the mediocrity dept. 2. JP gets to play roads games against Tampa Bay and in a noisy dome at San Antonio.......Tampa Bay probably is leading in all defensive categories in the NFL now. They have manhandled pretty much every one in the AFC East.. 3. JP gets to play a tough game against Atlanta at home, where the defense could never get off the field on 3rd and longs.....They let Vick, Dunn and Duckett run for 240 yards...and control the clock.... 4. KH is yet to see any of the above.....If KH managed the games at home very well, then how JP managed the Houston game should not be conviniently forgotten.... I want the bills to win, so I don't care how we win...but please don't make KH look like a god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 ? HOU 22 Carries TB 13 carries (2.6 YPC - This is the #1 rushing D in the NFL....) Atl 27 Carries NO 16 Carries MIA 31 Carries NYJ 29 Carries So your 10-15 carries more is true in two cases, one against the #1 rushing D. Overall (including Shaud and others, but not including Losman, since no one can agree on how many of his rushes were designed) rush/pass ratio certainly was the highest against the Jets, but we were getting 6+ YPC in the first half...Interestingly, even with being behind, the TB game was the only game where our Rush/Pass ratio decreased in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Oh and BTW having your starting OL for the game helps....especially when one of the lineman on the right side is named Mike Williams and not some Jerman.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 more 1st downs=more plays on offense Yup, a QB who can move the chains on 3rd&6 helps a lot. MM said as much. cus i dont remember willis getting 7 yards on first down with JP in the game. they cant keep that 8th and 9th player in the box with holcomb, like they could with JP. 479032[/snapback] True, but to be fair, the Jets were about the only team in the league that didn't put 8+ in the box against us last year or the year before. It's just not something they like to do for some reason. We're going to see lots of 8-man fronts the rest of the year, and how well Holcomb handles it will be the key to the season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djfarr00 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 People keep forgetting about the following: 1. The game that JP managed against Houston....The Jets and Miami teams that we played are pretty comparable to Houston in the mediocrity dept. 2. JP gets to play roads games against Tampa Bay and in a noisy dome at San Antonio.......Tampa Bay probably is leading in all defensive categories in the NFL now. They have manhandled pretty much every one in the AFC East.. 3. JP gets to play a tough game against Atlanta at home, where the defense could never get off the field on 3rd and longs.....They let Vick, Dunn and Duckett run for 240 yards...and control the clock.... 4. KH is yet to see any of the above.....If KH managed the games at home very well, then how JP managed the Houston game should not be conviniently forgotten.... I want the bills to win, so I don't care how we win...but please don't make KH look like a god... 479089[/snapback] Please read "not the future, good short term fix" Maybe for a Losman supporter that is godlike, but for the rest of us, hes a way to get some points on the board and some support from the other players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 cus i dont remember willis getting 7 yards on first down with JP in the game. they cant keep that 8th and 9th player in the box with holcomb, like they could with JP. 479032[/snapback] That's exactly it. The defenses can't just stack the line continuously against KH, because he'll check to a quick slant (just like the Lee Evans against Miami play) and burn them. There's a whole different thought process with a veteran QB. With a rook (or 1st year starter) they challenge that QB to beat you by stacking the line. Hence, less first downs and less touched for Willis. They had to throw with JP, it was the only way to open up the run game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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