VABills Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Being down 8 points in the 4th Q is playing catch-up by definition, Einstein. Before that INT, the Bills scored on 4 of 6 drives. Also the Bills had 9 drives, not 10. So if you are going to call me out, get YOUR facts straight! PTR 454362[/snapback] 10 drives. Wanna try again to get your facts straight? You're wrong, admit it, and this discussion will be over. 15:00 5:28 BUF 32 13 50 Field Goal 03:44 3:59 BUF 20 9 57 Field Goal 10:07 6:12 BUF 20 11 80 Touchdown 02:27 1:19 BUF 37 3 -2 Punt 14:19 4:09 ATL 35 7 23 Field Goal 04:45 2:24 BUF 13 5 15 Punt 12:07 2:39 BUF 25 6 16 Interception 07:48 2:47 BUF 11 5 -1 Punt 05:01 1:45 BUF 44 5 27 Downs 01:45 0:07 BUF 27 1 -2 Fumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 10 drives. Wanna try again to get your facts straight? You're wrong, admit it, and this discussion will be over. 15:00 5:28 BUF 32 13 50 Field Goal 03:44 3:59 BUF 20 9 57 Field Goal 10:07 6:12 BUF 20 11 80 Touchdown 02:27 1:19 BUF 37 3 -2 Punt 14:19 4:09 ATL 35 7 23 Field Goal 04:45 2:24 BUF 13 5 15 Punt 12:07 2:39 BUF 25 6 16 Interception 07:48 2:47 BUF 11 5 -1 Punt 05:01 1:45 BUF 44 5 27 Downs 01:45 0:07 BUF 27 1 -2 Fumble 454371[/snapback] Fess up - who counted that for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You can't bench your QB after three games. JPL is the best QB on the roster, and you play your best players. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 10 drives. Wanna try again to get your facts straight? You're wrong, admit it, and this discussion will be over. 15:00 5:28 BUF 32 13 50 Field Goal 03:44 3:59 BUF 20 9 57 Field Goal 10:07 6:12 BUF 20 11 80 Touchdown 02:27 1:19 BUF 37 3 -2 Punt 14:19 4:09 ATL 35 7 23 Field Goal 04:45 2:24 BUF 13 5 15 Punt 12:07 2:39 BUF 25 6 16 Interception 07:48 2:47 BUF 11 5 -1 Punt 05:01 1:45 BUF 44 5 27 Downs 01:45 0:07 BUF 27 1 -2 Fumble 454371[/snapback] http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=2...002&page=drives Click the link and count it yourself, Jagoff! 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 DRIVES!! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 that was uncalled for. Clearly, there is a discrepency in the way the drives were recorded in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 count it yourself, Jagoff! 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 DRIVES!! PTR 454435[/snapback] I only see 8... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/drivechart?gameId=250925002 CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 that was uncalled for. Clearly, there is a discrepency in the way the drives were recorded in the 4th quarter. 454439[/snapback] The drive was considered continued because of the fumble recovery. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 The drive was considered continued because of the fumble recovery. PTR 454443[/snapback] Technically, and officially, it would be ten drives. Because if the Falcons didn't have possession of the ball, it would not have been a fumble and the Bills couldn't have recovered it. It will also be a turnover in the stats. As soon as the other team gets possession of the ball, it is the end of the series. That said, it's an incredibly stupid argument you guys are having. Because if there was an interception, and the defense fumbled on the return and the offense recovered it, it would be a turnover and officially another drive, but the same stupid argument. A technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Technically, and officially, it would be ten drives. Because if the Falcons didn't have possession of the ball, it would not have been a fumble and the Bills couldn't have recovered it. It will also be a turnover in the stats. As soon as the other team gets possession of the ball, it is the end of the series. That said, it's an incredibly stupid argument you guys are having. Because if there was an interception, and the defense fumbled on the return and the offense recovered it, it would be a turnover and officially another drive, but the same stupid argument. A technicality. 454449[/snapback] Well he started...nya nya PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You can't bench your QB after three games. JPL is the best QB on the roster, and you play your best players. CW 454412[/snapback] Thank you, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Well he started...nya nya PTR 454461[/snapback] Even if it was 9 drives, as you state, which it wasn't, that would be 4/9th. So your asseretion that it was half was still wrong. no nya nya to you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsgirl Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You can't bench your QB after three games. JPL is the best QB on the roster, and you play your best players. CW 454412[/snapback] I completely agree with that statement... JP is the better quarterback on our roster... I am not going to defend him and say that he hasn't pretty much sucked in these games... but I ddn't expect him to come out like Big Ben did... he doesn't have the OL for that. He's a rookie quarterback coming out at a time when rookie quarterbacks have happened to kick butt... but the majority of them normally don't excel to a high level their first season. If JP continues to struggle (which I hope not cuz he as so much potential) then we can start thinking about other options... but this season WAS dedicated to making him our starter... let's stay with the game plan longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You can't bench your QB after three games. JPL is the best QB on the roster, and you play your best players. CW 454412[/snapback] We're just waiting to see some evidence of that. We're tired of hype. It is one thing to say he will be the best, another to say he is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Well he is not taking care. And we have a caretaker on the bench. I don't want to see the team become Ravens North where we coddle our own little Kyle Boller for years with managment and coaching in denial as to how bad he stinks and our good defense gets older and falls apart. Reminds me of the 3-D (deny deny deny) approach of another administration when it encounters trouble. Try Holcomb. Its an insult to all the veterans on the team and the fans to not try and win now. He played against a banged up secondary and had 140 yards production by his running back. At home. Despite these favorable conditions. He repeteaedly made terrible decisions and simply can't hit wide open receivers on the rare occasion that he can see them. Why not shut us all up by giving Holcomb his shot and see what happens? P.S. How did Lee Evans and Eric Moulds from being great to terrible? Hmmm I wonder what changed so much since last year? 454273[/snapback] That's beautiful. This kid can't managed except handing off right now. No timing at all with his outside receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Unfortunately if JP starts we may have our shot at drafting Leinhart. We looks far worse than Cleveland and other candidates Texans may be our only competition. So I take it you are in favor of the Kyle-Boelleresque lets stay in denial plan? 454331[/snapback] Are you HIGH? We look worse than Cleveland? Really, take a pill, man, it's gonna be all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Drew Brees was bad the first season he was a starter....good thing San Diego gave up on him, huh? And I remember Terry Bradshaw's first season in Pittsburgh. He played so poorly that their fans were convinced he was retarded. (Well, ok, maybe they weren't COMPLETELY wrong.) Maybe it is too soon for JP to start, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Drew Brees was bad the first season he was a starter....good thing San Diego gave up on him, huh?And I remember Terry Bradshaw's first season in Pittsburgh. He played so poorly that their fans were convinced he was retarded. (Well, ok, maybe they weren't COMPLETELY wrong.) Maybe it is too soon for JP to start, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 454836[/snapback] Same with Carson Palmer, John Elway, and countless other QBs that turned out OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Same with Carson Palmer, John Elway, and countless other QBs that turned out OK. 454851[/snapback] You forgot Todd Collins, Joey Harrington, Ramsey, Boller, Fielder, Carr...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You forgot Todd Collins, Joey Harrington, Ramsey, Boller, Fielder, Carr...... 454857[/snapback] Well, you can choose to think that JP's in their league. I choose not to. We'll see who's right in 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Well, you can choose to think that JP's in their league. I choose not to. We'll see who's right in 2-3 years. 454861[/snapback] No, as I have said, JP gets a pass for most of the year, and I really won't start judging until at least week 10. Hopefully we start seeing glimmers of hope by then. Just trying to be fair and balanced, that JP could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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