Game week thread - Bills at Patriots*

[NickelCity]

15 minutes ago, Instincts said:

Better dual threat than Patrick Mahomes? really?

 

Are you serious with this? Surely not.

[transplantbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, Instincts said:

What matters is now, not 5 years ago.  5 years ago cannot help Buffalo today, C'mon man....

 

"In the 2025 NFL season (as of early December), Drake Maye has generally outperformed Josh Allen in efficiency and advanced metrics, leading the league in completion percentage, passer rating, and Expected Points Added, while Allen still boasts strong overall production, particularly in fantasy points per game and rushing touchdowns, showcasing Maye's breakout year with the Patriots compared to Allen's continued elite play for the Bills. 

Here's a breakdown of their typical 2025 performance:

Key Statistical Comparisons (Around Week 13-14, 2025)

Completion %: Maye (71.5%) > Allen (70.1%)

Passing Yards: Maye (3,412) > Allen (3,085)

Passing Touchdowns: Maye (23) ≈ Allen (22)

Passer Rating: Maye (111.9) > Allen (102.9)

Fantasy Points (Approx): Allen (254) > Maye (227)

Fantasy PPG: Allen (25.4) > Maye (20.6)

Rushing TDs: Allen (7) > Maye (2)

Sacks: Maye (36) > Allen (20) 

Key Takeaways

Maye's Efficiency: Maye leads in key efficiency metrics, showing incredible accuracy and decision-making for the Patriots, ranking first in Completion Percentage Over Expectation.

Allen's Versatility: Allen remains a fantasy powerhouse, often leading in fantasy points due to his significant rushing production (more rushing TDs) and high fantasy point-per-game average.

Offensive Systems: Their roles differ; Maye excels in the Patriots' system, while Allen's dual-threat ability keeps him elite, but he's also been sacked more often. "   Drake Maye ain't concerned about being a fantasy QB like Josh Allen, Drake wants to actually win championships... something Josh Allen has not... even Joe Burrow has at least been to a Superbowl... Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.. will yall ever make it to one? or will sports media continue to make excuses for you. 🧐

 

First of all, you're the one who brought up early career Allen, not me. You're the one pushing the Drake>>>Josh agenda

 

Advanced metrics are fine, but how about the eye test and a little common sense? The Bills are winning shootouts this season against other elite QBs like Burrow, Mayfield and Lamar almost entirely on the back of Josh Allen. 

 

in your numbers I notice you don't factor in rushing yards? Weird considering who we're talking about here.

 

Maybe factor in opponents?

 

Regardless, here’s a site that compiles advanced metrics like EPA per dropback, CPOE, QBR, and other traditional states and uses all of them to rank QBs.

 

https://www.nfeloapp.com/qb-rankings/

 

Look who's #1 and who's #10...

 

[Success]

1 hour ago, Instincts said:

"In the 2025 NFL season (as of early December), the Buffalo Bills have given up the most kickoff return yards by a team (over 1,480 yards on 54 returns), while Marcus Jones ranks high as a punt returner, averaging around 18.8 yards per return, placing him among the league's top returners in average and total returns, though specific rankings shift. 

Buffalo Bills Kickoff Returns (Given Up)

Most Yards: The Bills lead the league in kickoff return yards given up, with 1,719 total opponent return yards through Week 13.

Volume: They've allowed 54 kick returns for 1,480 yards, averaging 27.4 yards per return. 

Marcus Jones's Punt Return Performance (2025)

Average: He's averaging about 18.8 yards per punt return.

Total Returns: He ranks near the top with 19 returns.

Yards: He's amassed 358 punt return yards.

Ranking: He's consistently listed among the top punt returners in the league for average and volume, often top 5 or 10 depending on the specific stat category (e.g., average, total returns)." 

 

Damn I had no idea, sorry I wanted to bring up special teams real quick....

So what its only 1 more than Lamar and one more than Joe Burrow (who actually got to a superbowl, which is higher than what Josh Allen has ever done).  Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning and others have at least been to multiple AFC title games during Brady's era if I'm not mistaken. 

 

It's always wild to me when football fans talk about the game like it's tennis or golf.

 

And you're avoiding my question. 

 

Edited 18 minutes ago by Success

[No_Matter_What]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

Supposebly its a word

Projectory is a projected trajectory.

 

Cool new word imo. His best contribution in this thread.

[mbs]

1 hour ago, Instincts said:

Omg, trajectory is what I meant lol.. projectory lmao

That’s not a typo. You are illiterate. That’s fine, but don’t bs about it.

 

Plenty of opposing fans contribute here. You are not one of them. You should go.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 hour ago, Instincts said:

Thats the thing.... Drake Maye is only on his second year (late in his second year now) and will already be playing in a post season game.  I'll stop f*cking with Josh Allen as far as him not making it to a Superbowl, but how long did it take him to play in his first post season game?  Hell, how many times has he even been to a conference championship game? only twice in 8 years??????

[Instincts]

I can't wait to come back on here after this Sunday lol .. Fire Joe Brady posts, fire McDermott, etc lol