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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think it is the other way round. If they keep asking McDermott to coach a Beane built roster it won't get any better. But they are tied as far as I am concerned. One goes both go.

It’s an interesting thought, we got Tre white Dawkins and Milano in that draft.  That’s 3 all pros.  All before Beane got here.  
 

Maybe give McD more say? Or perhaps bring back Doug Whaley!?

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I am not usually pessimistic about the Bills, but I don't see an easy path to improvement for next season.  We have a lot of free agents, some of whom we should try to retain (such as McGovern and Edwards), and a lot of older or unproductive players that we probably should not retain (Poyer, Phillips, Rapp, Tre, Milano, Samuel and probably players like Knox (restructure?), Johnson (restructure?), Jones, Ogunjobi, and Bosa (who seems to have hit a wall)).  We will have a lot of holes, particularly on defense, and very little in the way of resources to replace these players, let alone find upgrades, with no help coming from our disappointing back-ups who are not starter quality (i.e., Solomon and Carter).

 

Bottom line is that the team is old, slow and lacks top end talent other than Josh and Cook.  The Bills don't have a blue chip player on the defense and do not have a starting caliber boundary WR on offense.  Not sure how this can get fixed in the near term.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ***** said:

It’s an interesting thought, we got Tre white Dawkins and Milano in that draft.  That’s 3 all pros.  All before Beane got here.  
 

Maybe give McD more say? Or perhaps bring back Doug Whaley!?

 

The 2017 Bills draft is easily the best non-Josh Allen draft of my fandom. But Dawkins hasn't been an all pro. 4 x pro bowler and had all pro votes but never been a 1st or 2nd team all pro.

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think it is fair to call it a circus. They haven't been a clown show. They have been professional and methodical. It just hasn't worked and/or they haven't quite been good enough.

IMO, the continued affinity for undersized LB and DL - despite it not having worked when it matters - is pretty 'clownish'

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