The New President Autopen

[SectionC3]

53 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

So in your little pea brain, you need to actually see a rap sheet to believe a criminal has *checks notes* a criminal history?

 

No wonder you voted for kamala.

Quiet, piggy.  The people who know what they’re talking about are speaking.  The rap sheet contains the criminal history.  You said you’ve seen the rap

sheet.  So show it to everyone else.  And then let’s talk about that history and what should have been done by whom.  Until then, stay quiet, piggy. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Quiet, piggy.  The people who know what they’re talking about are speaking.  The rap sheet contains the criminal history.  You said you’ve seen the rap

sheet.  So show it to everyone else.  And then let’s talk about that history and what should have been done by whom.  Until then, stay quiet, piggy. 

Don't drool on your keyboard with those big brained thoughts of yours.

 

Pathetic.

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Quiet, piggy.  The people who know what they’re talking about are speaking.  The rap sheet contains the criminal history.  You said you’ve seen the rap

sheet.  So show it to everyone else.  And then let’s talk about that history and what should have been done by whom.  Until then, stay quiet, piggy. 

You know I'm right so you try and insult me and surprisingly, you failed at that too.

[SectionC3]

Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Don't drool on your keyboard with those big brained thoughts of yours.

 

Pathetic.

Quiet, piggy.  Just produce the rap sheet. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Quiet, piggy.  Just produce the rap sheet. 

Keep defending criminals.

[gobills404]

2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You're not even a good troll.

Boomer libs are truly the cringiest and least funny people on earth. They just regurgitate whatever god awful Trump related meme is trending on Facebook at the moment and think it’s clever. “Cheeto Drumpf is a such PIGGY from drinking too much COVFEFE and eating too many TACOs🤪”. Straight up brain rot.

[JDHillFan]

On 11/18/2025 at 1:34 PM, SectionC3 said:

The first part is a hoax.  Straight hoax.  Try and find the data.  You can’t, because there’s no truth to it.  

Nice work, dumbass. 

[The Frankish Reich]

Notice the responses to my post.

They are "responsive" in name only.

Absolutely no one bothers to justify how the reproduction of Trump's signature by some mechanism (maybe an autopen!) is any different than Biden's use of the autopen. Actually the Trump situation is worse, since he disavows any knowledge of some of the high-profile subjects (CZ) that his machine nevertheless pardoned.

[gobills404]

4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Notice the responses to my post.

They are "responsive" in name only.

Absolutely no one bothers to justify how the reproduction of Trump's signature by some mechanism (maybe an autopen!) is any different than Biden's use of the autopen. Actually the Trump situation is worse, since he disavows any knowledge of some of the high-profile subjects (CZ) that his machine nevertheless pardoned.

My first reply in here condemned Trump for pardoning thieves and if he’s indeed using autopen I’ll condemn him for that too. Blame your buddy for derailing the thread.

[JDHillFan]

On 11/18/2025 at 1:31 PM, gobills404 said:

Lib judges and DA’s releasing repeat violent offenders back onto the streets and a “conservative” president pardoning white collar criminals. It’s all so tiring.

 

On 11/18/2025 at 1:34 PM, SectionC3 said:

The first part is a hoax.  Straight hoax.  Try and find the data.  You can’t, because there’s no truth to it.  

 

Something about a hoax and a rap sheet. C-section sh*tting all over himself for some reason. Nice work C. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[teef]

Yes.  Emptying the prisons.  Reasonable. 

[BillsFanNC]

That Ukrainian woman in Charlotte who was murdered by a mentally ill criminal with a long rap sheet? Rare. Laken Riley murdered by an illegal alien? Rare. Hundreds of others of US citizens murdered by illegals? Also rare.  I can't be bothered.

 

        - teef

[teef]

Whaaa?

[SectionC3]

On 11/19/2025 at 7:54 PM, JDHillFan said:

Nice work, dumbass. 

Lots of nonprosecution there.  Why is that?  And what was he arrested for, Anus Man?   Kind of looks like a mental illness issue here.  So you can highlight one instance of one person who may or may not have been previously violent (the predicate for this whole conversation) and attempt to apply it to all of the "libz" everywhere.  Or you could, like, actually work in the field and know what you're talking about.  

 

Want to know what the big issue is in New York State?  Discovery.  DAs are slow to adapt to new discovery rules, and they blow a lot of (typically nonviolent) cases, resulting either in speedy trial dismissals or lame plea deals that accomplish next to nothing (no treatment program, no probation, no incarceration).   Lots of R DAs in this state in the rural areas.  And then guess what else happens?  The R judges take a misguided stand against bail reform (a well-intentioned but highly imperfect law for reasons that you're not aware of) by not applying the provisions that allow for holds to make a political point.  Happens ALL. THE. TIME.  And then, in my experience, they take care of their buddies in the defense bar and cut their clients sweetheart deals.  Happens ALL. THE. TIME.  

 

So it's not just the "libz" that make these mistakes.  It's both sides.  There have been two big issues re: bail reform and pretrial release here locally in the past year.  One screw up (which looks bad, but really wasn't a mistake for a variety of reasons) was by a democrat.  The other screw up (from a legal perspective, but probably not from a practical perspective) was by a republican. 

[JDHillFan]

21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Lots of nonprosecution there.  Why is that?  And what was he arrested for, Anus Man?   Kind of looks like a mental illness issue here.  So you can highlight one instance of one person who may or may not have been previously violent (the predicate for this whole conversation) and attempt to apply it to all of the "libz" everywhere.  Or you could, like, actually work in the field and know what you're talking about.  

 

Want to know what the big issue is in New York State?  Discovery.  DAs are slow to adapt to new discovery rules, and they blow a lot of (typically nonviolent) cases, resulting either in speedy trial dismissals or lame plea deals that accomplish next to nothing (no treatment program, no probation, no incarceration).   Lots of R DAs in this state in the rural areas.  And then guess what else happens?  The R judges take a misguided stand against bail reform (a well-intentioned but highly imperfect law for reasons that you're not aware of) by not applying the provisions that allow for holds to make a political point.  Happens ALL. THE. TIME.  And then, in my experience, they take care of their buddies in the defense bar and cut their clients sweetheart deals.  Happens ALL. THE. TIME.  

 

So it's not just the "libz" that make these mistakes.  It's both sides.  There have been two big issues re: bail reform and pretrial release here locally in the past year.  One screw up (which looks bad, but really wasn't a mistake for a variety of reasons) was by a democrat.  The other screw up (from a legal perspective, but probably not from a practical perspective) was by a republican. 

Lot of typing to explain why you sh*t all over yourself with this gem:

 

“The first part is a hoax.  Straight hoax.  Try and find the data.  You can’t, because there’s no truth to it.”

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

Lot of typing to explain why you sh*t all over yourself with this gem:

 

“The first part is a hoax.  Straight hoax.  Try and find the data.  You can’t, because there’s no truth to it.”

It’s because it doesn’t exist.  It is a hoax.  You, Anus Man, point to a few isolated instances and try to pass them off as a systemic or pervasive problem.  So find the data about these “libz” letting all of these “violent criminals” go.  You’re out of your depth and you have no idea what you’re talking about. 

Edited 2 hours ago by SectionC3

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

It’s because it doesn’t exist.  It is a hoax.  You, Anus Man, point to a few isolated instances and try to pass them off as a systemic or pervasive problem.  So find the data about these “libz” letting all of these “violent criminals” go.  You’re out of your depth and you have no idea what you’re talking about. 

Quiet piggy. Hoax. Prove me wrong. 

[wnyguy]

21 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Notice the responses to my post.

They are "responsive" in name only.

Absolutely no one bothers to justify how the reproduction of Trump's signature by some mechanism (maybe an autopen!) is any different than Biden's use of the autopen. Actually the Trump situation is worse, since he disavows any knowledge of some of the high-profile subjects (CZ) that his machine nevertheless pardoned.

Gotta agree with you Frankish, it's not a good look for Trump and the administration. It's like all politicians are crooks or something.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, wnyguy said:

Gotta agree with you Frankish, it's not a good look for Trump and the administration. It's like all politicians are crooks or something.

Thanks.

The whole pardon thing, from whichever side, bothers me. When I was a relatively new lawyer for the feds, I got one of those dreaded assignments - reviewing case files in response to pardon requests. I probably overdid it. I really dug into a few cases and wrote really solid memos for the DOJ Pardon Attorney (there is such a thing, although it's now very politicized). I never really followed up on what happened; they weren't high-profile cases. But nothing was political. We were instructed to look at things like acceptance of guilt and evidence of rehabilitation, and the view of the prosecuting agency and the victims of the crime, and the value of a pardon for restoring certain civil rights like voting or owning a gun. I took my work seriously and left it to the Pardon Attorney to make his or her final recommendation to the President.

 

So it saddens me to see a President just ignore that process and ran through pardons for political or other (including political contributions) reasons. It is easy to make fun of the bureaucratic process, but without it, this is what we get. People - not the Pardon Attorney after full review - sticking Pardon letters into the autopen or in front of the President to apply a sharpie signature without even knowing the first thing about what he's doing or who it impacts.

[JDHillFan]

22 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thanks.

The whole pardon thing, from whichever side, bothers me. When I was a relatively new lawyer for the feds, I got one of those dreaded assignments - reviewing case files in response to pardon requests. I probably overdid it. I really dug into a few cases and wrote really solid memos for the DOJ Pardon Attorney (there is such a thing, although it's now very politicized). I never really followed up on what happened; they weren't high-profile cases. But nothing was political. We were instructed to look at things like acceptance of guilt and evidence of rehabilitation, and the view of the prosecuting agency and the victims of the crime, and the value of a pardon for restoring certain civil rights like voting or owning a gun. I took my work seriously and left it to the Pardon Attorney to make his or her final recommendation to the President.

 

So it saddens me to see a President just ignore that process and ran through pardons for political or other (including political contributions) reasons. It is easy to make fun of the bureaucratic process, but without it, this is what we get. People - not the Pardon Attorney after full review - sticking Pardon letters into the autopen or in front of the President to apply a sharpie signature without even knowing the first thing about what he's doing or who it impacts.

As one that describes himself as  “fiercely independent”, I imagine it does bother you when either side does it. Me too.
 

Oddly enough, your only objection here at PPP about the Biden pardons appears to be:

 

On 7/17/2025 at 12:56 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_4483

 

Jimmy Carter pardoned an entire class of draft evaders without even specifically naming them.

 

This is the dumbest of all MAGA obsessions.

Fascinating and wholly unexpected!