Trump Summons Boebart To White House Over Discharge Petition

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

while I know the President has such immunity the thought of it protecting someone involved in this  makes me sick to my stomach. for real. 

I don't think he's protecting someone involved in this, think of someone who is closer to him than that.

[muppy]

Just now, wnyguy said:

I don't think he's protecting someone involved in this, think of someone who is closer to him than that.

Lord have mercy

[wnyguy]

Just now, muppy said:

Lord have mercy

Amen.

[SCBills]

11 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Guys, the people who have power in this country operate in the shadows. Goes way beyond whose in the white house.

This. 

 

We have no self made Presidents. 
 

If you’re a President, it’s because very powerful people decided you can. 

[teef]

7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The biggie question imo is why anything involving Epstein was hidden/redacted/confidential to begin with, outside of the victims involved. 
 

As for Trump, the flip side of the argument is why he would demand release of the files if he knew he was in them. 
 

Some people are just above the law.  

he certainly wouldn't have approached it the way he did if he knew he was in them.  this is certainly bigger than just trump.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

13 minutes ago, muppy said:

while I know the President has such immunity the thought of it protecting someone involved in this  makes me sick to my stomach. for real. 

The immunity question aside, I think the reality is that sort of thing is not at all uncommon.  

3 minutes ago, teef said:

he certainly wouldn't have approached it the way he did if he knew he was in them.  this is certainly bigger than just trump.

Which brings me back around to maybe anything that may have been there is long gone, deep sixxed by whomever for whatever reason.  Intelligence community?   
 

Or, maybe there isn’t/wasn’t all that much in there to begin with.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

18 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

I don't think he's protecting someone involved in this, think of someone who is closer to him than that.

Someone or something? Israel. 

[muppy]

13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The immunity question aside, I think the reality is that sort of thing is not at all uncommon.  

Which brings me back around to maybe anything that may have been there is long gone, deep sixxed by whomever for whatever reason.  Intelligence community?   
 

Or, maybe there isn’t/wasn’t all that much in there to begin with.  

it doesn't explain the Pivot though Leo. Why so much reluctance to releasing them now when not before?  It reads very self serving to me.

 

But as far as pedophilia being common  No question. But we are speaking of the evangelical  Rights supported candidate  and  POTUS.   I don't have to tell you how much smoke there is around him. It sure smells like fire to me.   He is who he is. 

 

"By a preponderance of the evidence" show me the FILES. 

 

And I have thought about the fact maybe the files arent as damaging to he and is allegedly possibly so. Or have been tampered with. SMH

 

why the pivot then though?

 

 

[4th&long]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

I honestly spit my coffee out Teef. . . . . . LOL

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile:

 

"Looks terrible — until you learn that [VICTIM] is the late Virginia Giuffre, who had worked for Trump before she fell into Epstein’s clutches, and had publicly said time and again that the future president never misbehaved in the least toward her."

Writes the Editorial Board of the New York Post, in "Epstein emails: The Dems and their lapdogs with laptops cry Wolff again."

 

What an incredibly sleazy move, redacting the name Virginia Giuffre, as if it were to protect her, when her name has already been public, she wrote a book to get her story out, she's told us she believed Trump did nothing wrong, and she's no longer alive. It's plainly and deliberately deceptive, and it's stupid too, because the name was going to come out, as it did in less than one day.

 

Such an idiotic distraction. I'm happy to look at any new evidence about the Epstein story, but I don't want to waste my time on manipulations like this.

 

I refuse to read the NYT article, "Michael Wolff, Chronicler of Elites, Provided Epstein With Advice on Trump/Mr. Wolff was enough of an insider to provide advice to Jeffrey Epstein on how to handle his dealings with Donald J. Trump." 

 

What does "enough of an insider" even mean?? Enough of a Trump hater? I made that a gift link, in case you want to figure out how straight the NYT is playing it.

 

Posted by Ann Althouse

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/11/looks-terrible-until-you-learn-that.html

 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/12/opinion/epstein-emails-the-dems-and-their-lapdogs-with-laptops-cry-wolff-again/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/business/media/michael-wolff-epstein-trump-emails.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.4eL_.QbCvCRrLOMS9&smid=url-share

 

 

 

Still protecting pedos, just like at church. 

Edited 1 hour ago by 4th&long

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, muppy said:

it doesn't explain the Pivot though Leo. Why so much reluctance to releasing them now when not before?  It reads very self serving to me.

Sorry Mup, but you and I are on different ends of the argument and that’s unlikely to change.   Common sense tells me that Trump doesn’t push for the release of files he would know he would be in.  If he’s in them, he lays low and people move on. 
 

Additionally, given the scorched earth policy undertaken by the Dems v Trump under the Biden years,  I assume if he’s in the files, it’s released. With fanfare. Unless of course Harris, Biden, Obama et al are in there too. 

 

3 minutes ago, muppy said:

 

But as far as pedophilia being common  No question. But we are speaking of the evangelical  Rights supported candidate  and  POTUS.   I don't have to tell you how much smoke there is around him. It sure smells like fire to me.   He is who he is. 
 

Nope, I wasn’t talking about that.  I was talking about powerful people corrupting/leveraging/conspiring for power/politics/gain.  If US Senator X son is involved in bid rigging or money laundering, President Y and/or US Senator Z assists in burying the story and favors are owed.  
 

As for predators generally, Mup, I’d point out that one of the faces of the American Left during the most recent election was WJ Clinton, who actively settled with a woman who accused him of violent sexual assault.  This after #metoo.   That ain’t smoke, that’s a fire burning for a couple decades and a good portion of the country thought it wise to put his enabling spouse in the WH.   That’s before even mentioning interns. 
 

I guess we get what we get. 

 

3 minutes ago, muppy said:

 

"By a preponderance of the evidence" show me the FILES. 

 

And I have thought about the fact maybe the files arent as damaging to he and is allegedly possibly so. Or have been tampered with. SMH

 

We agree this is a concern.  If it happened, we’ll never know.

 

 

3 minutes ago, muppy said:

 

why the pivot then though?

 

Fear?

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

26 minutes ago, muppy said:

it doesn't explain the Pivot though Leo. Why so much reluctance to releasing them now when not before?  It reads very self serving to me.

 

But as far as pedophilia being common  No question. But we are speaking of the evangelical  Rights supported candidate  and  POTUS.   I don't have to tell you how much smoke there is around him. It sure smells like fire to me.   He is who he is. 

 

"By a preponderance of the evidence" show me the FILES. 

 

And I have thought about the fact maybe the files arent as damaging to he and is allegedly possibly so. Or have been tampered with. SMH

 

why the pivot then though?

 

 

Not to mention Trump is aiding and comforting Maxwell, the convicted sex trafficker. 

 

I mean, why? Smoke to fire 

[Roundybout]

 

 

 

What the hell, man