Waaaay tooooo eaaaarly - AFC playoff picture

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, harryS said:

 

Well, the Pats are about to take their 3rd loss this week in Tampa, I think / hope.

 

I think you're right that the Bills/NE rematch will be huge.

Weird to say this that depends on if Boutte can play or not with his Hammy.. He and Maye have an amazing connection without him it will be a heck of a lot harder.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I don’t think Atlanta had a turnover? And the Pats if we played that game would still be 7-2 because they had 5 turnovers and still only lost by 7 to Pittsburg.  As for Tampa will be a tough game but they have a ton of injuries that will slow them down.. be interesting to see. Any TRUE Pats fan is just enjoying the ride right now, NO one expected this any rational person was thinking 9-8 or 10-7 at best. Right now I see them at 12-5 and a wildcard team. (Loses to Bills, Ravens and either Tampa or Bengals but not both) 

Yea I think if we’re going for the ‘should’ve won’ thing you gotta give the pats the Steelers game…bills are teetering on should’ve beat NE but if you go for bills should’ve beat NE you probably have to take the Baltimore win away..  feels like both teams are at where they should be overall with some minor discrepancies on what the tiebreakers ‘should’ be at lol 

Edited 10 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[harryS]

5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Weird to say this that depends on if Boutte can play or not with his Hammy.. He and Maye have an amazing connection without him it will be a heck of a lot harder.

I got no issue with you but I gotta say, some of your posts are almost designed to anger the masses at TBD.

 

Awwww, poor new england.  They have one injury to be concerned about.  

[Buffalo03]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I don’t think Atlanta had a turnover? And the Pats if we played that game would still be 7-2 because they had 5 turnovers and still only lost by 7 to Pittsburg.  As for Tampa will be a tough game but they have a ton of injuries that will slow them down.. be interesting to see. Any TRUE Pats fan is just enjoying the ride right now, NO one expected this any rational person was thinking 9-8 or 10-7 at best. Right now I see them at 12-5 and a wildcard team. (Loses to Bills, Ravens and either Tampa or Bengals but not both) 

I'm talking about the Pats win against the Bills. That game was given to you guys. We turned the ball over at our own 10 yard line which gave you a free 3 points. Allen threw a red zone pick when were moving the ball downfield which could have put the game out of reach. I'm saying let's see what happens when you guys play a good team in their house when they don't give you guys the ball multiple times

[Buffalo03]

11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Yea I think if we’re going for the ‘should’ve won’ thing you gotta give the pats the Steelers game…bills are teetering on should’ve beat NE but if you go for bills should’ve beat NE you probably have to take the Baltimore win away..  feels like both teams are at where they should be overall with some minor discrepancies on what the tiebreakers ‘should’ be at lol 

The Bills beat themselves in that game. Plain and simple

[Buffalo4Life01]

My cousin Skeeter keeps reminding me that the only team that can beat the Bills besides the Patriots and the Falcons is the Buffalo Bills themselves!!  Just keep playing they game, pounding the rock to cook, doing a few more of them exotic blitz packages, and boom!!  We will see where this magical season/journey takes us!!

[CirclnWagons]

This isn’t going to be a popular statement but with schedules as they are and Drake Maye playing like he is, there’s a very good chance the AFC could run through Foxboro once again. Aside from their lackluster performance yesterday, the pats have been one of the more solid teams in the league and once they get past the bucs Sunday, have an incredibly favorable schedule. I have no doubt we can roll in there and get a W but I think Vrabel and Mr Kraft have more than just massage towels on the rise at this point. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

The Bills beat themselves in that game. Plain and simple

Oh yea not disputing that…but you can’t only apply the ‘should’ve won’ thing to one team once you’re going down that road…pats outgained the Steelers by a ton and fumbled like 4 times I feel like they’ve got a valid ‘should’ve won’ claim there 

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

15 minutes ago, harryS said:

I got no issue with you but I gotta say, some of your posts are almost designed to anger the masses at TBD.

 

Awwww, poor new england.  They have one injury to be concerned about.  

Thats not what I meant at all.. Just meant Boutte is Maye favorite receiver and things be harder m, not an excuse just be like if Allen was missing his favorite receiver.. Didn’t mean make it sound “aww poor NE” just was making a statement poorly obviously.

[Billsfanatic8989]

Patriots get curbstomped by Bucs

Bills will win

Broncos beat Raiders

Falcons beat Colts

Jags lose to Texans

Steelers beat Chargers

Vikings beat Ravens

 

 

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Oh yea not disputing that…but you can’t only apply the ‘should’ve won’ thing to one team once you’re going down that road…pats outgained the Steelers by a ton and fumbled like 4 times I feel like they’ve got a valid ‘should’ve won’ claim there 

 

 

I didn't say "we should have won". I'm saying our mistakes handed them a win. How many points did the Pats win by? 3. We fumbled the ball at our own 10 yard line and gift wrapped them 3 free points right there. Allen threw a red zone pick later in the game when we were driving and could have put the game away. We had an insane amount of penalties that killed drives as well. Let's see if they can beat a good teak like Tampa in Tampa without being gift wrapped turn overs

[PatsFanNH]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm talking about the Pats win against the Bills. That game was given to you guys. We turned the ball over at our own 10 yard line which gave you a free 3 points. Allen threw a red zone pick when were moving the ball downfield which could have put the game out of reach. I'm saying let's see what happens when you guys play a good team in their house when they don't give you guys the ball multiple times

I know, but so many games for all teams are like that. It’s how football works.  The Pats at home had 5 turnovers 3 inside the Steelers 10 yard line.. so trust me I know it’s frustrating but it happens.. the Bills I am 99% certain win the division still.. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, CirclnWagons said:

This isn’t going to be a popular statement but with schedules as they are and Drake Maye playing like he is, there’s a very good chance the AFC could run through Foxboro once again. Aside from their lackluster performance yesterday, the pats have been one of the more solid teams in the league and once they get past the bucs Sunday, have an incredibly favorable schedule. I have no doubt we can roll in there and get a W but I think Vrabel and Mr Kraft have more than just massage towels on the rise at this point. 

It’s definitely possible…I wouldn’t say a ‘very good chance’ though.  it flips to very unlikely if they lose the bills rematch. That eliminates the h2h tiebreaker then you shift to conference record (assuming they both finish the division 5-1) where the pats would be two behind so it would likely be a 1.5 game swing. Bills would be 7-2 with the tiebreaker, pats would be 7-3. Bills would have eagles left and pats would have ravens 

 

I think they’re def a solid team on the right track but ‘run through foxboro’ is a bit of a stretch too.  The odds they grab the 1 seed and win in the divisional round are very low no disrespect to the pats intended at all 

Edited 10 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Pete]

2 hours ago, Juice_32 said:

 

Agree. I'd take this right now over being the #1 seed with KC and Balt in the mix. Sign me up for this.

I understand this.  But I want home field to the Super Bowl.  Besides how loud, and electric Highmark will be, despite perhaps having a weather advantage, besides all of that great stuff, my number 1 reason that the Bills should get the 1 seed- is the first round bye.  That is huge!  Bills play hard, we lost some super talented players with Ed and Hoetch.  It’s a violent game, and any player can get injured at anytime. So by having a bye, Bills will rest and recover and watch the first round from their couch.  Bills aren’t getting injuries bye week.  Bills can handle any team.  So big deal if Baltimore or KC have to come to Buffalo. I love our chances

[Buffalo03]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I know, but so many games for all teams are like that. It’s how football works.  The Pats at home had 5 turnovers 3 inside the Steelers 10 yard line.. so trust me I know it’s frustrating but it happens.. the Bills I am 99% certain win the division still.. 

Ok. But you guys still lost the game. You had 5 turnovers and "only lost by 7" you still lost. We lost primarily because we handed you the ball 3 times. Once deep in our own territory. That one turn over alone gave you the game considering you won by a FG. They talk about how it was a "statement win for the patriots". Well, it's a lot easier when you get the ball gift wrapped to you 3 times. The difference is the Bills are a much better team than the Pats right now. The Patriots I don't think are THAT much better than the Steelers. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo03

[Pete]

30 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Weird to say this that depends on if Boutte can play or not with his Hammy.. He and Maye have an amazing connection without him it will be a heck of a lot harder.

What deal do you think the Pats make?  I hear all sorts of names.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I didn't say "we should have won". I'm saying our mistakes handed them a win. How many points did the Pats win by? 3. We fumbled the ball at our own 10 yard line and gift wrapped them 3 free points right there. Allen threw a red zone pick later in the game when we were driving and could have put the game away. We had an insane amount of penalties that killed drives as well. Let's see if they can beat a good teak like Tampa in Tampa without being gift wrapped turn overs

Kinda semantics…pats can easily say the same thing about the Steelers game.  And the ravens are likely saying the same thing about the bills game.  It’d be a little unfair to add an asterisk to a bills loss and not other teams.  If you’re talking about what is gonna happen in the rematch yea I think the bills should definitely win.

 

But the pats are kinda in a position where they really don’t have too many difficult games and they can grab good seeding without even having to be great.  ‘Are the pats actually a really good team’ is kinda a separate discussion..  I don’t think they are yet either but the standings are the only thing matters for seeding 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

What deal do you think the Pats make?  I hear all sorts of names.

Be Honest I am not really sure. I suspect they get another edge rusher but no huge flashy name someone they get for like a mid round draft pick.. I’d be giddy happy if they got AJ Brown but that be way to expensive draft capital wise.. IMO this team needs a lot more than 1 WR.. but god be fun see what Maye would do with a proven top tier talent still in his prime. (Diggs been a dang good team leader)

[Buffalo03]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Kinda semantics…pats can easily say the same thing about the Steelers game.  And the ravens are likely saying the same thing about the bills game.  It’d be a little unfair to add an asterisk to a bills loss and not other teams.  If you’re talking about what is gonna happen in the rematch yea I think the bills should definitely win.

 

But the pats are kinda in a position where they really don’t have too many difficult games and they can grab good seeding without even having to be great.  ‘Are the pats actually a really good team’ is kinda a separate discussion..  I don’t think they are yet either but the standings are the only thing matters for seeding 

To me the Steelers game is irrelevant for this argument because I think we can agree that while that Patriots may be better than them, they aren't THAT much better. If the Pats and Steelers played 10 times, it would probably be an even split 5 to 5. The Bills are the better team over the Pats hands down and only beat them because we turned the ball over 3 times. If us and the Pats play 10 times, I would still say the Bills would win 7 or 8 out of 10. Big difference there. 

[PatsFanNH]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Kinda semantics…pats can easily say the same thing about the Steelers game.  And the ravens are likely saying the same thing about the bills game.  It’d be a little unfair to add an asterisk to a bills loss and not other teams.  If you’re talking about what is gonna happen in the rematch yea I think the bills should definitely win.

 

But the pats are kinda in a position where they really don’t have too many difficult games and they can grab good seeding without even having to be great.  ‘Are the pats actually a really good team’ is kinda a separate discussion..  I don’t think they are yet either but the standings are the only thing matters for seeding 

💯 agree! The Pats are a GOOD(ish) team winning games they should win.  Maye for a 2nd year QB has pretty much played out of his mind and won like 5 games for this team on his own his accuracy has just been amazing to me. But to be a good/great team you would have to be able survive with any major injuries on either side of the ball and I just don’t think they have the depth to do that.  (This my comment about Boutte being out)