The Frankish Reich Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: These are the people who believed in the magic of Joe Biden intellect and ability to lead the country. They believed so passionately they put him out on a debate stage and watched him implode, and still believed in him thereafter. They thought it happened because he had da sniffles. Surely you can convince them of something as straightforward as doing what they have always done, in a time when they should always do it. Maybe try the crossword puzzle thing? TRUMP: I know nothing about the pardon of Binance king CZ. Of course it's a lie, but if you believe him, you believe that he just applies his sharpie to whatever his staffers put in front of him. So, so different from the autopen thing. 1
Niagara Bill Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago This is amazing debate I am reading. Helping citizens, not illegals receive necessary medical care is not considered a right by tax paying real US citizens is amazing. Especially when the socialist side of the country, with dems and repubs receive assistance just buying food...and 15% of country will starve with 7 days of no snap payments. An amazing struggle between my money and our money. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: TRUMP: I know nothing about the pardon of Binance king CZ. Of course it's a lie, but if you believe him, you believe that he just applies his sharpie to whatever his staffers put in front of him. So, so different from the autopen thing. I'm glad you brought that up. When I first heard about the pardon, my initial thought was WTF? Big picture, I think sweetheart deals between dems, repubs, and independents are part of the American political system. I think money changes hands, power dynamics are leveraged, and some people named Biden and Trump make out very, very well. So, I don't stress that all that much. On CZ, I had no idea who we was/what he did or whatever. From what I can see, the Garland DOJ went after him hard, said he was a threat to our American way of life...and asked for a 3 year prison sentence for him. 3 years--national security threat, money laundering? As it turned out, he received a 36 month sentence. With your background, maybe you can help me understand how the government only looks for a 3 year sentence, and judge sends him in on Memorial Day and tells him he'll be home by Labor Day. Just being candid here--it sounds a bit like it could have been a shakedown by the Biden admin, for political purposes. To your point, sure, I believe Trump knew who he was and pardoned him for political purposes. See my first paragraph. 1
B-Man Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago The idea that reliance on government benefits leads to a return to family support undermines individual responsibility. Shouldn't we focus on empowering people to be self-sufficient rather than relying on SNAP? https://x.com/dogeunhinged/status/1985002924179849692
The Frankish Reich Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I'm glad you brought that up. When I first heard about the pardon, my initial thought was WTF? Big picture, I think sweetheart deals between dems, repubs, and independents are part of the American political system. I think money changes hands, power dynamics are leveraged, and some people named Biden and Trump make out very, very well. So, I don't stress that all that much. On CZ, I had no idea who we was/what he did or whatever. From what I can see, the Garland DOJ went after him hard, said he was a threat to our American way of life...and asked for a 3 year prison sentence for him. 3 years--national security threat, money laundering? As it turned out, he received a 36 month sentence. With your background, maybe you can help me understand how the government only looks for a 3 year sentence, and judge sends him in on Memorial Day and tells him he'll be home by Labor Day. Just being candid here--it sounds a bit like it could have been a shakedown by the Biden admin, for political purposes. To your point, sure, I believe Trump knew who he was and pardoned him for political purposes. See my first paragraph. I'd have to research the case to give you a full answer, but based on what I know: Binance was accused of having reason to know that a lot of the crypto they handled as an exchange was from illegal activity (read: drug sales, etc.). CZ was found guilty of having personal knowledge. He wasn't accused of hands-on cooperation with cartels, etc., but such a finding wasn't necessary in order for him to be guilty. So it is fair to say that Binance facilitated drug trafficking, and that their chief had reason to know that his company was facilitating drug trafficking. I will grant you that crypto is so unregulated that there is some issue in the application of the law. The traditional law we all depends on is a kind of "know your customer." That applies to normal (non-crypto) transactions. You can't be willfully blind to what's going on. Until someone shows me otherwise, I will continue to maintain that facilitation of illegal activity (drug trafficking, evasion of various export/import controls, tax evasion) is the only proven usefulness of crypto. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: I'd have to research the case to give you a full answer, but based on what I know: Binance was accused of having reason to know that a lot of the crypto they handled as an exchange was from illegal activity (read: drug sales, etc.). CZ was found guilty of having personal knowledge. He wasn't accused of hands-on cooperation with cartels, etc., but such a finding wasn't necessary in order for him to be guilty. So it is fair to say that Binance facilitated drug trafficking, and that their chief had reason to know that his company was facilitating drug trafficking. I will grant you that crypto is so unregulated that there is some issue in the application of the law. The traditional law we all depends on is a kind of "know your customer." That applies to normal (non-crypto) transactions. You can't be willfully blind to what's going on. Until someone shows me otherwise, I will continue to maintain that facilitation of illegal activity (drug trafficking, evasion of various export/import controls, tax evasion) is the only proven usefulness of crypto. Thanks for the update. Still, I get hung up on a guy at this level getting 90 days in prison, when the full weight of the US Government was brought down upon him. Steve Bannon did four frigging months for ignoring a subpoena. My accountant has brought up the tax question on crypto in the past, and since I do not play in the crypto markets, it hasn't been an issue for me. I think you're probably correct in your assessment.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 48 minutes ago, B-Man said: The idea that reliance on government benefits leads to a return to family support undermines individual responsibility. Shouldn't we focus on empowering people to be self-sufficient rather than relying on SNAP? https://x.com/dogeunhinged/status/1985002924179849692 ensuring that no Americans starve is everyones responsibility. We can focus on enabling self sufficiency simultaneously. but children, the elderly and the disabled who make up the majority of snap recipients are unlikely to ever be self sufficient. 1
Pokebball Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: ensuring that no Americans starve is everyones responsibility. We can focus on enabling self sufficiency simultaneously. but children, the elderly and the disabled who make up the majority of snap recipients are unlikely to ever be self sufficient. That's why it bothers me that we are giving so much to non Americans 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Pokebball said: That's why it bothers me that we are giving so much to non Americans fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap??
JDHillFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hey, I've already said I think this shutdown thing is bad strategy on the part of the Democrats. But I'm not a registered Democrat, and my reps really don't care what I think. You may not be registered but you are reliable. Need evidence? See your entire posting history. 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap?? All it takes is SIX caring democrat senators to do the right thing to prevent the starvation you are concerned about. Edited 20 hours ago by JDHillFan
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap?? If you can't eat without snap, might need to reevaluate your life. 1
Pokebball Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap?? The shutdown in DC is terrible. Makes you want to hug a federal politician so much more, right?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap?? What does the s in snap stand for?
JFKjr Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 55 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: fair enough. in the meantime, do we let Americans starve by cutting off snap?? Democrats do. Not sure if you consider yourself a Democrat. 1
Wolfgang Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, JFKjr said: Democrats do. Not sure if you consider yourself a Democrat. Joe is an NPC... Nothing more... Fake compassion... Overdosing on self-righteousness... Fully programmed by corporate American propaganda... 1
Niagara Bill Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I'm glad you brought that up. When I first heard about the pardon, my initial thought was WTF? Big picture, I think sweetheart deals between dems, repubs, and independents are part of the American political system. I think money changes hands, power dynamics are leveraged, and some people named Biden and Trump make out very, very well. So, I don't stress that all that much. On CZ, I had no idea who we was/what he did or whatever. From what I can see, the Garland DOJ went after him hard, said he was a threat to our American way of life...and asked for a 3 year prison sentence for him. 3 years--national security threat, money laundering? As it turned out, he received a 36 month sentence. With your background, maybe you can help me understand how the government only looks for a 3 year sentence, and judge sends him in on Memorial Day and tells him he'll be home by Labor Day. Just being candid here--it sounds a bit like it could have been a shakedown by the Biden admin, for political purposes. To your point, sure, I believe Trump knew who he was and pardoned him for political purposes. See my first paragraph. Maybe they found Bidens autopen
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Maybe they found Bidens autopen I don’t know why that would matter in a pardon under the Trump admin, Bill. But maybe.
Niagara Bill Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I don’t know why that would matter in a pardon under the Trump admin, Bill. But maybe. Because trump doesn't actually get involved, only the gang who controls him... 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: Because trump doesn't actually get involved, only the gang who controls him... It seems clear to me you didn’t think this one through. It happens. As a gentleman and citizen of the world, I’ll move on. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It seems clear to me you didn’t think this one through. It happens. As a gentleman and citizen of the world, I’ll move on. If he doesn't remember pardoning this guy there are only 3 possibilities: he's lying He's demented Someone "signed" the pardon without his knowledge.
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