JFKjr Posted September 23 Posted September 23 13 hours ago, pennstate10 said: That was the most batsht crazy press conference I’ve ever heard. Let’s see: 1). You’ve got a loony president with no medical experience whatsoever giving advice on vaccine schedule (4 is too many, well spread them out based on some nutso criteria) and prenatal care. 2). Being advised by a voicebox who runs HHS but also has no medical training whatsoever. 3). Being advised by a MDPhD who doesn’t have a medical license and has never treated any patient 4) Being advised by a former TV surgeon who has never cared for an autistic patient. What a clown show. Basically it's people who have something to GAIN from the 'vaccine schedule' that are 'giving advice on the vaccine schedule,' so that's a bit of a problem right there. For our kids we 'spread them out' just based on our own instinct that lots of shots all at once couldn't possibly be good for our toddlers' developing immune systems. Aside from that, kids who get the MMR at age three or later are far less likely to be autistic than those who get it at the 'recommended' time (15-18) months. Of course 'correlation is not causation,' but with autism being a diagnosis for a lifetime, why take the chance? Have the kids get the shot later. 1
teef Posted September 23 Posted September 23 my question is why now? is there new evidence that shows there is a possible link? it's been the standard for pregnant women for 20 years so what's changed?
JFKjr Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, teef said: my question is why now? is there new evidence that shows there is a possible link? it's been the standard for pregnant women for 20 years so what's changed? Is there anything out there that is to our benefit? Processed foods, plastics, massive increase in the childhood vaccine schedule, pesticides, Covid vaccine, GLP-1 drugs as the "solution" to obesity. You could go on and on about the things that are accepted to our detriment. What has changed is MAHA.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 10 hours ago, Big Blitz said: so now you respect the work coming out of elite academic institutions? cool. Meanwhile, simple "answers" to complex questions are what maga's want whether they're correct our not. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/scientists-rebuke-trump-s-tylenol-autism-claim-stress-fever-is-bigger-danger-in-pregnancy/ar-AA1N6w3k 1
JFKjr Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: so now you respect the work coming out of elite academic institutions? cool. Meanwhile, simple "answers" to complex questions are what maga's want whether they're correct our not. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/scientists-rebuke-trump-s-tylenol-autism-claim-stress-fever-is-bigger-danger-in-pregnancy/ar-AA1N6w3k Don't take the Covid vaccine, or any flu shots. Pretty simple. 1
Big Blitz Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: so now you respect the work coming out of elite academic institutions? cool. Meanwhile, simple "answers" to complex questions are what maga's want whether they're correct our not. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/scientists-rebuke-trump-s-tylenol-autism-claim-stress-fever-is-bigger-danger-in-pregnancy/ar-AA1N6w3k Get a life. No one believes this crap from your side. No one trusts Team 6 Feet apart. NY Times morning alert today: ”An autism press conference, …… other news etc.” AN AUTISM PRESS CONFERENCE. That’s what happened. That was their North Koreamerica spin. F off. 1 1
T master Posted September 23 Posted September 23 16 hours ago, Homelander said: You're going to take medical advice from this guy? Well the guy isn't an English major so F N what !! There are some here that bust my balls all the time for not being a English major and I bet like me Trump could give a rats ass about that . But as usual morons will take things that he says like the metaphor of using something like bleach to get rid of the covid virus as OH MY GOD HE IS TELLING US TO INJECT BLEACH IN OUR VEINS THIS GUY IS A WACKO , But in reality those that push that dum ass opinion are the jack asses .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Get a life. No one believes this crap from your side. No one trusts Team 6 Feet apart. NY Times morning alert today: ”An autism press conference, …… other news etc.” AN AUTISM PRESS CONFERENCE. That’s what happened. That was their North Koreamerica spin. F off. The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American Association of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians believe it. But uyou believe a moron that can't pronounce acetaminophen and a guy who swims in a feces contaminated stream who also has a brain worm. Yeah, I continue to side with the highly educated and highly intelligent side. Just another spark in the culture war fire that trump has started. 3 minutes ago, T master said: Well the guy isn't an English major so F N what !! There are some here that bust my balls all the time for not being a English major and I bet like me Trump could give a rats ass about that . But as usual morons will take things that he says like the metaphor of using something like bleach to get rid of the covid virus as OH MY GOD HE IS TELLING US TO INJECT BLEACH IN OUR VEINS THIS GUY IS A WACKO , But in reality those that push that dum ass opinion are the jack asses . He's not a science major or medical expert either. But who cares, right? Edited September 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Big Blitz Posted September 23 Posted September 23 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American Association of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians believe it. But uyou believe a moron that can't pronounce acetaminophen and a guy who swims in a feces contaminated stream who also has a brain worm. Yeah, I continue to side with the highly educated and highly intelligent side. Just another spark in the culture war fire that trump has started. He's not a science major or medical expert either. But who cares, right? You believed every word of the Weekend At Bernie’s administration and this…..go f off 1
teef Posted September 23 Posted September 23 12 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Is there anything out there that is to our benefit? Processed foods, plastics, massive increase in the childhood vaccine schedule, pesticides, Covid vaccine, GLP-1 drugs as the "solution" to obesity. You could go on and on about the things that are accepted to our detriment. What has changed is MAHA. of course there is. people just need to make their own risk/benefit if certain medications or chemicals are worth any potential risk. i do agree with certain points that jfk had. he feels that a lot of our public health concerns have to do with processed foods, plastics, dyes, etc, and i'm totally on board with that. we're not perfect in our family, but we do try to limit that as much as possible. when it comes to linking tylenol to autism i'm out. i haven't found anything new and necessary to make that claim, so i would really like to know why this is an issue suddenly. 1
T master Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) On 9/23/2025 at 10:38 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said: He's not a science major or medical expert either. But who cares, right? He's reading a report brought to him by those that are scientists and science majors but jack asses only use his mispronunciation to further their own personal ignorants, but in listening to them that is what we are suppose to care about is someone with a severe case of Biased TDS, Right ?? Edited September 26 by T master 1 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 9 minutes ago, T master said: He's reading a report brought to him by those that are scientists and science majors but jack asses only use his mispronunciation to further their own persona; ignorants, but in listening to them that is what we are suppose to care about is someone with a severe case of Biased TDS, Right ?? hand picked by RFK jr to support his wacky views. You are supposed to care about scientific debate. They know you won't. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You believed every word of the Weekend At Bernie’s administration and this…..go f off NYC was piling bodies into refrigerated semi trucks at the time. Never mind that he saved lives... https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7224a6.htm#T1_down
BillsFanNC Posted September 23 Posted September 23 23 minutes ago, teef said: of course there is. people just need to make their own risk/benefit if certain medications or chemicals are worth any potential risk. i do agree with certain points that jfk had. he feels that a lot of our public health concerns have to do with processed foods, plastics, dyes, etc, and i'm totally on board with that. we're not perfect in our family, but we do try to limit that as much as possible. when it comes to linking tylenol to autism i'm out. i haven't found anything new and necessary to make that claim, so i would really like to know why this is an issue suddenly. From August 20, 2025. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/ Published in journal form August 14th. https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0
Yobogoya! Posted September 23 Posted September 23 26 minutes ago, teef said: when it comes to linking tylenol to autism i'm out. i haven't found anything new and necessary to make that claim, so i would really like to know why this is an issue suddenly. Probably because the Harvard report which is the basis for this announcement was published a month ago, and the FDA concluded their review of it just now? People are acting like Trump concocted this announcement himself, but he's essentially just informing the public about the results of a completely independent study. Which is what RFKjr said he would do: be transparent about information that's pertinent to public health. Ultimately you and your loved will make your own decision about whether to take tylenol when you're pregnant, but this is really just going to amount to an updated warning label. That's it. 1
JFKjr Posted September 23 Posted September 23 37 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American Association of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians believe it. But uyou believe a moron that can't pronounce acetaminophen and a guy who swims in a feces contaminated stream who also has a brain worm. Yeah, I continue to side with the highly educated and highly intelligent side. Just another spark in the culture war fire that trump has started. He's not a science major or medical expert either. But who cares, right? Doesn't bother me if you get Covid vaccines, flu shots or pound Tylenol. It's a free country.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 12 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Doesn't bother me if you get Covid vaccines, flu shots or pound Tylenol. It's a free country. for now...
teef Posted September 23 Posted September 23 25 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: From August 20, 2025. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/ Published in journal form August 14th. https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0 so harvard is ok now? interesting. i'm always for looking into if there's any real correlation or not, but i'm going to go with the recommendations the academy of obstretrics , academy of peds, etc who haven't backed this at all. it it worth looking into? sure. do i think it's anything at all other than confusing some people? yup. 25 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: Probably because the Harvard report which is the basis for this announcement was published a month ago, and the FDA concluded their review of it just now? People are acting like Trump concocted this announcement himself, but he's essentially just informing the public about the results of a completely independent study. Which is what RFKjr said he would do: be transparent about information that's pertinent to public health. Ultimately you and your loved will make your own decision about whether to take tylenol when you're pregnant, but this is really just going to amount to an updated warning label. That's it. but as far as i know, there's no new evidence that makes this conclusion. if i'm receiving this important info, i want to hear if from clinicians that deliver treatment every day and have actual background on the info. i think it's more than just changing the label. i've already seen post or parents saying it all makes sense now. no it doesn't. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) Conflict of interests? Ethical dilemma? Of course. great summation of events here https://www.thetimes.com/article/aa7fff5a-d267-440f-a544-a3cd75c33416 Judge Cote said all five of the experts who testified in the unsuccessful lawsuit against Kenvue “have not served to enlighten but to obfuscate the weakness of the evidence on which they purport to rely and the contradictions in the research.” Baccarelli’s finding that there is an association between acetaminophen and autism has also been criticised by members of the scientific community. Professor David Mandell, associate director for the Centre for Autism Research at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said Baccarelli’s methodology did not provide a “rigorous review of evidence”. He added that one of the studies examined by Baccarelli’s paper explored the autism-acetaminophen link without providing any measure of autism symptoms. “The statements in the discussion suggesting that the link is strong, rather than somewhat equivocal, combined with the unorthodox methods, raise serious concerns about bias,” he told The Times. Edited September 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
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