Allen is becoming Elite Pre-Snap(if he wasn't already)

[Billsfanatic8989]

He isn't Tom Brady or Peyton Manning level yet. Than again, no QB is. 

 

But it has definitely improved

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

At the Height of the KGun about 92/93 I remember Kelly would say  "Noah noah" and it meant a slant to Reed

 

[chris heff]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Orlovsky breaking down the last 2 plays that show Allen's understanding pre-snap of what is going on and what the D is trying to do...also that long pass to Cook was set up by Allen sliding the line over to pick up the blockers and leaving a free rusher coming at him towards the play-side that he looped the ball over to a wide open Cook...Collinsworth I thought needed a moment to himself to settle down after that he was praising Allen changing the protection call so much...

 

Allen is elite pre-snap now, as if he wasn't a big enough problem already, now you simply can't even count on disguising stuff and fooling him.

 

 

So complicated, it’s why there aren’t 32 guys in the world that can play Quarterback in the NFL.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Allen is elite pre-snap now, as if he wasn't a big enough problem already, now you simply can't even count on disguising stuff and fooling him.

 

Here's another good example:

 

This is a good defensive play call designed to get a sack and possible safety. They overload pressure to the left but have Kyle Van Noy hang back and then loop to the right. The idea is that Allen will look to bail to his left and will run directly into KVN for the sack. But watch Allen's head - he anticipates the loop and has eyes on KVN the whole time. As soon as KVN loops right Allen runs up the middle through the vacated gap and flips the ball to Shakir.

 

Edited September 8 by HappyDays

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Here's another good example:

 

This is a good defensive play call designed to get a sack and possible safety. They overload pressure to the left but have Kyle Van Noy hang back and then loop to the right. The idea is that Allen will look to bail to his left and will run directly into KVN for the sack. But watch Allen's head - he anticipates the loop and has eyes on KVN the whole time. As soon as KVN loops right Allen runs up the middle through the vacated gap and flips the ball to Shakir.

 

 

That was on of those "This F'ing Guy..." moments
 

Edited September 8 by Big Turk

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, NoSaint said:

yea- it seemed like a not great first half but much better second half for pre snap

 

i think some of the Brady hate first half was actually Allen audibles 

 

It's hard to tell because sometimes the Ravens defense makes their own check in response to our audible:

 

It's not so much that Allen gets "fooled," it's that he's making the audible according to what the defense is showing pre-snap and sometimes the opposing DC just has a great play call that goes against pre-snap expectations. That's what great DCs are supposed to do. Would be nice if we could see some of that from our own side.

 

I still would like these screens and quick swing passes to be less common even as the check, especially on 3rd down. Because then you're basically leaving all of the success of the play up to the defensive play call vs giving your best player a chance to create with the ball in his hands. When we let Allen create later in the game good things happened.

[Victory Formation]

There’s no doubt about it..

[henry jones]

I just wish his audible call would be "earmuffs" instead of "alert"

[NewEra]

On 9/8/2025 at 10:17 AM, Big Turk said:

 

The irony is that with Allen, even the impossible seems possible and it's getting to the point where it's almost expected.  Like if he DIDN'T come back and win last night after Henry fumbled we would have been scratching our heads...that's the ultimate sign of true greatness that Allen has evolved to. When regardless of the chances and how impossible the odds seem, you still think that he can get it done and nearly expect him to.

I was pretty confidant we were going to win midway through the 4th.  I was telling everyone leaving the bar that they’re making a big mistake and are going to miss out on an epic celebration.  Then Keon TD, Ed domination, Hawes catch, Josh TD, more Ed domination, Palmer, Keon, prater, celebrate.

 

Baltimore with a big lead in the 4th 🤣 Looked like they were going to blow the regular season game last year too- but they were saved by Brady’s ridiculous flea flicker nonsense for an interception/fumble, w/e it was.  Worst play call ever.