Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 53 minutes ago, LeviF said: They are an irregular military force trafficking poison. In all of human history this earns you summary execution. But go on, I'm sure the conspiracy theories about the US military blowing random boats out of the water for views are gonna be vindicated real soon. I think due process and not starting wars is a good thing, actually
Pokebball Posted September 3 Posted September 3 On 8/11/2025 at 1:12 PM, Roundybout said: They’re certainly a problem. Do you support the President of Peace invading other nations to stop them? This is hardly new. How many people did Obama dronestrike? According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen, killing between 2,581 and 4,013 people, including 384 to 807 civilians. The Council on Foreign Relations reports 542 drone strikes, with an estimated 3,797 total deaths, including 324 civilians. The Obama administration's official figures, released in 2016, claim 473 strikes in non-war zones killed between 2,372 and 2,581 combatants and 64 to 116 civilians, though these numbers are criticized as undercounts by human rights groups.
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 12 minutes ago, Pokebball said: This is hardly new. How many people did Obama dronestrike? According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen, killing between 2,581 and 4,013 people, including 384 to 807 civilians. The Council on Foreign Relations reports 542 drone strikes, with an estimated 3,797 total deaths, including 324 civilians. The Obama administration's official figures, released in 2016, claim 473 strikes in non-war zones killed between 2,372 and 2,581 combatants and 64 to 116 civilians, though these numbers are criticized as undercounts by human rights groups. Okay, so if it was bad when Obama did it, it then follows it’s bad Trump is doing it?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Okay, so if it was bad when Obama did it, it then follows it’s bad Trump is doing it? Who said it was bad? Hopefully trumps aim is a bit better.
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Who said it was bad? Hopefully trumps aim is a bit better. Killing innocent people at random is bad, actually
Pokebball Posted September 3 Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Okay, so if it was bad when Obama did it, it then follows it’s bad Trump is doing it? I don't think I said it was "bad", but rather "par". And maybe most importantly, not "new" 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Who said it was bad? Hopefully trumps aim is a bit better. but but but the innocent people on this boat 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Killing innocent people at random is bad, actually I generally agree. Do you think someone on this boat was innocent?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Killing innocent people at random is bad, actually Tell that to Obama. Drone strike aim not the best. But let's cry about cartel members dying.
LeviF Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I think due process and not starting wars is a good thing, actually On 3/31/2025 at 8:34 AM, Roundybout said: (clears throat) DONT DO CRIMES. Enjoy rotting in jail hell, losers!
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 15 minutes ago, LeviF said: 58 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Tell that to Obama. Drone strike aim not the best. But let's cry about cartel members dying. Are we certain they were cartel members?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Just now, Roundybout said: Are we certain they were cartel members? Your not a serious person. 1
Pokebball Posted September 3 Posted September 3 11 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Are we certain they were cartel members? Shame on our intelligence for not convincing YOU before they struck! 1
LeviF Posted September 3 Posted September 3 11 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Are we certain they were cartel members? If I wasn’t before, I am now simply because you’re expressing doubt: On 1/24/2025 at 2:42 PM, LeviF said: It's inevitable, leftists are literally wrong about everything. You could hold up two visually similar rocks, ask them to identify which one is hematite, and they will pick the wrong one. Repeat it with a thousand more leftists, wrong every time 1 1
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 13 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Your not a serious person. Just sayin’ it might be good to find out before we send 4000 troops after a fishing boat. You know, if Israel can put a missile through a guy’s bathroom window 100 miles away, why do we need an entire battalion for a stupid boat?
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: Shame on our intelligence for not convincing YOU before they struck! Before the next attack on a cartel drug boat let's have the Pentagon drop a bunch of questionnaires with 20 to 25 questions. First question, "Are you a drug cartel member? Yes or No." 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Just sayin’ it might be good to find out before we send 4000 troops after a fishing boat. You know, if Israel can put a missile through a guy’s bathroom window 100 miles away, why do we need an entire battalion for a stupid boat? You are proving how small of a man you really are. How's the Scottish police coming along with that cctv footage? You find yourself on the wrong side of pressing social issues. Why is that?
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 13 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You are proving how small of a man you really are. How's the Scottish police coming along with that cctv footage? You find yourself on the wrong side of pressing social issues. Why is that? Why is the “right side” gung ho for war and violence?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why is the “right side” gung ho for war and violence? Why do you fight so hard for illegals and drug dealers? We can do this all day little man.
Roundybout Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Why do you fight so hard for illegals and drug dealers? We can do this all day little man. Yeah, no. “Illegals” are mostly good and decent people seeking a better life for themselves and their families. There is no world where arresting a firefighter ACTIVELY BATTLING A FIRE is the moral position to hold. Zero debate. I never argued *for* drug dealers, I’m skeptical that 1) this amount of force was actually needed and 2) this is even legal to do in international waters. Your side love the shiny jangling keys and busts a nut when the government reduces people to red mist.
sherpa Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, no. “Illegals” are mostly good and decent people seeking a better life for themselves and their families. There is no world where arresting a firefighter ACTIVELY BATTLING A FIRE is the moral position to hold. Zero debate. I never argued *for* drug dealers, I’m skeptical that 1) this amount of force was actually needed and 2) this is even legal to do in international waters. Your side love the shiny jangling keys and busts a nut when the government reduces people to red mist. I don't think you have any idea what your are talking about. A Naval force deploys with various capabilities that complement and support each other. They didn't deploy with the plan to go after one boat. And yes, when the org is defined as a terrorist org, a sovereign has the right to do something before they get in your waters, which they probably wouldn't have done anyway. That boat was a bit small to make it from Venezuela to the US. Likely it was heading to a drop off point for further transport. That's how this stuff works. 1
Wacka Posted September 3 Posted September 3 (edited) And how many people's lives were saved by stopping that drug shipment. Even one is great.The cartel members were just a cherry on the top. Edited September 3 by Wacka 1
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