UPDATE: ISRAEL v IRAN - Ceasefire reached?

[Wacka]

12 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

Oh weird, I thought it was “COMPLETELY OBLITERATED!” What happened to all that chest-thumping confidence?

Hey idiot,  the facility was completely obliterated and the uranium was spread all over the place. Do you think they were putting it on the front seat of their personal cars? If they have photos of the bombs hitting  it, they had eyes on it all the time  and would have bombed the s*** out of this convoys. How naive are you?

[muppy]

2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

No because the initial reporting is always by far the most important. Media will continue to spin any mea culpas at best or just plain ignore their own false reporting and leave it sitting out there uncorrected at worst. 

 

 

Greetings. 

 

I needed to cut away all the links of support for your position. I am here to challenge your thinking just a wee bit.

 

I don't think that the people outside of PPP chatrooms (most of the time that would be me) really care about laptops as compared to BOMBIMG OF IRAN

 

come on now. You get stuck in the position of defending Everything and cannot accept that maybe Just MAYBE there are people who will scoff at CNN  for screwing up this HUGELY IMPORTANT WORLD EVENT

 

laptop? gimme a break Joe general American doesn't give many fuqs about a laptop

 

aren't ALL politicians sleazy?

 

YES

 

a Bombing of Iran and they screw the pooch on  the story?  That's BAD for them trust me. laptop *raspberries*

 

come on now u catch my drift. I think on  this one you are wrong

 

thats' what I think

[BillsFanNC]

5 minutes ago, muppy said:

Greetings. 

 

I needed to cut away all the links of support for your position. I am here to challenge your thinking just a wee bit.

 

I don't think that the people outside of PPP chatrooms (most of the time that would be me) really care about laptops as compared to BOMBIMG OF IRAN

 

come on now. You get stuck in the position of defending Everything and cannot accept that maybe Just MAYBE there are people who will scoff at CNN  for screwing up this HUGELY IMPORTANT WORLD EVENT

 

laptop? gimme a break Joe general American doesn't give many fuqs about a laptop

 

aren't ALL politicians sleazy?

 

YES

 

a Bombing of Iran and they screw the pooch on  the story?  That's BAD for them trust me. laptop *raspberries*

 

come on now u catch my drift. I think on  this one you are wrong

 

thats' what I think

 

Its not about the laptop. It's that the entire media censored the REPORTING about the laptop. Massive election interference.

 

Twitter at the time suspended the account of the NY Post for reporting that was TRUE!

 

Facebook halted it as well.

 

In the USA one of the oldest newspapers in the nation has their reporting censored in the run up to the election? It's a massive story and the "error" there dwarfs the impact of the "error" with the Iran bombing.

 

 I don't care what the story is, censorship is bad, right?

 

In some instances they went beyond just not covering it and instead told you that any reporting you might come across is a waste of time.

 

To boil it all down if the NYT had credible reporting of a Don Jr. laptop with authenticated emails detailing foreign pay for play schemes you'd want to be able to hear about it, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

No because the initial reporting is always by far the most important. Media will continue to spin any mea culpas at best or just plain ignore their own false reporting and leave it sitting out there uncorrected at worst. 

 

The reliable media full well knows the initial story is far more damaging and permanent than any later "correcting" will fix.

 

A few examples:

 

To this day you still have people who believe that Trump called neo Nazis and white nationalists very fine people when in reality he specifically condemned both groups.  You even had Biden and Obama  citing this long debunked lie during the 2024 campaign. 

 

Another example is the original made up story used to justify the censoring of the accurate Hunter laptop reporting in October 2020 is STILL up and uncorrected to this very day here:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

 

The reporter that authored the above story?

 

Natasha Bertrand.

 

The author of the leaked intelligence reporting casting doubt on the success of operation midnight hammer?

 

Natasha Bertrand. 

 

 

 

Neo nazis and white nationalists are almost universally maga's.  Remember the trump flags along with the Auschwitz T shirt on Jan 6. Or "stand  down and stand ready" or whatever the orange gasbag (as you called him) dog whistled to the proud boys?

 

CNN reported a leaked document later confirmed to have been written by military intelligence.  That's their job. It's news.  And the document is real.

Edited yesterday at 01:50 PM by Joe Ferguson forever

[JDHillFan]

27 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Neo nazis and white nationalists are almost universally maga's.  Remember the trump flags along with the Auschwitz T shirt on Jan 6. Or "stand  down and stand ready" or whatever the orange gasbag (as you called him) dog whistled to the proud boys?

 

CNN reported a leaked document later confirmed to have been written by military intelligence.  That's their job. It's news.  And the document is real.

Why do you think the initial CNN reporting didn’t mention the “low confidence” part? Surely they had a reason. 

[muppy]

34 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Its not about the laptop. It's that the entire media censored the REPORTING about the laptop. Massive election interference.

 

Twitter at the time suspended the account of the NY Post for reporting that was TRUE!

 

Facebook halted it as well.

 

In the USA one of the oldest newspapers in the nation has their reporting censored in the run up to the election? It's a massive story and the "error" there dwarfs the impact of the "error" with the Iran bombing.

 

 I don't care what the story is, censorship is bad, right?

 

In some instances they went beyond just not covering it and instead told you that any reporting you might come across is a waste of time.

 

To boil it all down if the NYT had credible reporting of a Don Jr. laptop with authenticated emails detailing foreign pay for play schemes you'd want to be able to hear about it, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

you are not getting my point at all whatsoever. Can we please focus  on what is happening NOW not then please.

 

it is the SCOPE MAGNITUDE of Importance a Bomb vs a laptop?

 

Im saying PPP types care about laptops and will hang on to that to the exclusion of much ANYTHING that isn't HARD CORE RIGHT WING HANDBOOK Rhetoric. It is so TRIBAL!  SMH

 

Please lets just call deuces you aren't listening to any reason or iogic right now. Basically you are not listening to ME

 

DEUCES

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

https://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/monday-june-23rd-spectacular-success

[4th&long]

MAGA Attorney Threatens To Sue Journalists Over ‘Unpatriotic’ Reporting; Gets The Exact Response He Deserves

https://flip.it/PuX2FV

 

***** Maga. 

7 hours ago, muppy said:

you are not getting my point at all whatsoever. Can we please focus  on what is happening NOW not then please.

 

it is the SCOPE MAGNITUDE of Importance a Bomb vs a laptop?

 

Im saying PPP types care about laptops and will hang on to that to the exclusion of much ANYTHING that isn't HARD CORE RIGHT WING HANDBOOK Rhetoric. It is so TRIBAL!  SMH

 

Please lets just call deuces you aren't listening to any reason or iogic right now. Basically you are not listening to ME

 

DEUCES

 

 

You are wasting your time with that #######. 

[CoudyBills]

10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Neo nazis and white nationalists are almost universally maga's.  Remember the trump flags along with the Auschwitz T shirt on Jan 6. Or "stand  down and stand ready" or whatever the orange gasbag (as you called him) dog whistled to the proud boys?

 

CNN reported a leaked document later confirmed to have been written by military intelligence.  That's their job. It's news.  And the document is real.

Anybody who relies on the claims of a dog whistle has already lost the argument.  Pathetic frankly.  

[4th&long]

[CoudyBills]

2 hours ago, 4th&long said:

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

Anybody who relies on the claims of a dog whistle has already lost the argument.  Pathetic frankly.  

why don't you characterize his statement

 

 

[CoudyBills]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

why don't you characterize his statement

 

 

I would characterize that as someone who wants accountability across the entire playing field.  I would expect you to understand that, you are a leftist and for whatever reason you all seem to be emotional children.  He condemned white supremacy multiple times.  Where is your antifa condemnation?  Can't get it out from under your hood or no?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

22 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

I would characterize that as someone who wants accountability across the entire playing field.  I would expect you to understand that, you are a leftist and for whatever reason you all seem to be emotional children.  He condemned white supremacy multiple times.  Where is your antifa condemnation?  Can't get it out from under your hood or no?

I condemn antifa violence.  Did any D ever tell to stand back and stand by?  trump didn't condemn the proud boys, who were integral to the Jan 6 riot here..  In fact, he pardoned them. What did those words mean to you?

Edited 3 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[CoudyBills]

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I condemn antifa violence.  Did any D ever tell to stay back and stand by?  trump didn't condemn the proud boys, who were integral to the Jan 6 riot here..  In fact, he pardoned them. What did those words mean to you?

It strikes me as interesting how in one thread you portray him as an evil genius, while in many others you portray him as a moron who can barely speak.  Which is it?  Did he misspeak or has he continually outsmarted you all along the way?  I'm genuinely curious.  In this clip, he immediately agreed with the interviewer, literally first words out of his mouth that he agreed that white supremacy should be condemned.  If he was telling the proud boys to actually standby, was it not in a direct response to what antifa was doing at the time?  It was, we both know that.  

[BillsFanNC]

22 hours ago, muppy said:

you are not getting my point at all whatsoever. Can we please focus  on what is happening NOW not then please.

 

it is the SCOPE MAGNITUDE of Importance a Bomb vs a laptop?

 

Im saying PPP types care about laptops and will hang on to that to the exclusion of much ANYTHING that isn't HARD CORE RIGHT WING HANDBOOK Rhetoric. It is so TRIBAL!  SMH

 

Please lets just call deuces you aren't listening to any reason or iogic right now. Basically you are not listening to ME

 

DEUCES

 

 

 

😂

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

It strikes me as interesting how in one thread you portray him as an evil genius, while in many others you portray him as a moron who can barely speak.  Which is it?  Did he misspeak or has he continually outsmarted you all along the way?  I'm genuinely curious.  In this clip, he immediately agreed with the interviewer, literally first words out of his mouth that he agreed that white supremacy should be condemned.  If he was telling the proud boys to actually standby, was it not in a direct response to what antifa was doing at the time?  It was, we both know that.  

he's both.  his tariffs are idiotic.  The bombing was a huge risk which may or may not have achieved his objectives.  The spending bill is horrible adding trillions to the deficit and seriously damaging health care for the poor and rural hospitals.  He's made them a cash cow for the rich. The manner he's instituting his deportation program is evil and relatively ineffective in the big picture.  His cabinet picks were largely ridiculous especially Kennedy.

We now know what he meant by that statement.  It was a command to hold their fire til the time he commanded.  They understood and obeyed.  He's aligned with the white supremacist pigs. They are aligned with him.  He proved that with the pardons.  His congress scum go to their rallies and meet with them.  He meets with them (Fuentes). But most of all, he's amoral.  That  may help him succeed but I think the costs outweigh the benefits especially in regards to the morals of his decent followers and the national ethos.  The nation is losing decency by the minute.

[sherpa]

A week after the strike, I'd call this a very significant W on many levels beyond the massive damage to these three sites..