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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Biden was criticized for running his campaign from the basement.  trump had his normal glad handing, threat shouting rallies full of fools.  More reds died than blues.  Simple as that.

Well, your partners in blue would most definitely spread the virus on their way to, during, and on their journey back home to all manner of voter—blue, red, independent.  That was the reason the mass protests were so destructive, and why it was insane that you let your people run amok without so much as a whisper.  As a doctor, did you tell people and patients that the virus hovered above the protests?  That when they stopped at rest areas, hotels, slept in vehicles or bought supplies at stores along the way that the virus stayed in the car?  I think the problem is actually that you oversimplified something quite serious.  
 

 

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9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

As a doctor, did you tell people and patients that the virus hovered above the protests?  That when they stopped at rest areas, hotels, slept in vehicles or bought supplies at stores along the way that the virus stayed in the car?

from the beginning, I told people it was most likely disseminated by aerosolized droplets and the most common methods other known viruses are known to spread via that pathway.

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8 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I'm gonna spell this out just once, so people can link this

tweet to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing,

*****-eating simian creatures that whine about BoOtS oN tHe GrOuNd

as if America's going to conduct a land invasion of Iran

with eleventy gorillion troops and fight in the caves for a generation:

 

 

It’s not just about boots on the ground. We don’t want innocent Iranian civilians to be bombed. We don’t want the Middle East to become even more destabilized than it already is. We don’t want to provoke Iran or any other nation to target US bases in retaliatory attacks. We don’t want to inspire any Muslims in western nations to commit acts of terror. Stop trying to justify war.

 

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1 hour ago, TH3 said:

Ben N totally screwing up the launch of the Trump phone 

Hesitation? 🤣

You speak of dt like he and his crew have a freaking clue…the ONLY person there with any cred is Rubio

Nothing I said was related to Trump. I understand the complication of it. The most was directed at the poster. 

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3 hours ago, Homelander said:

We knew how to handle COVID. Some just chose not to.

 

It wasn’t an alien virus from another planet - it was a respiratory virus. And yes, it was “novel,” but that doesn’t mean we were flying blind. We’ve had pandemic playbooks for this kind of threat for decades.

 

Countries like South Korea and Taiwan didn’t possess some secret knowledge - they simply listened to scientists instead of talk show hosts.

 

Meanwhile, Russian bots-paid influencers we were busy instigating whether masks made you weak and whether bleach injections might be worth a try. And even now, some are still blaming the president who wasn’t even in office when the pandemic began.

 

And here's the indisputable truth: blue states, overall, fared better than red states. They followed the science, implemented public health measures, and took the crisis seriously. The result? Lower death rates, stronger healthcare responses, and fewer lives lost. That’s not just a political difference - it reflects a deeper reality: blue states tend to be better educated, and that matters. It means a greater trust in science, a stronger grasp of how viruses work, and a better ability to distinguish facts from conspiracies.

 

So no, it’s not that we didn’t know what to do. It’s that a significant portion of the country refused to know. That’s not a knowledge gap - it’s a values gap. And it cost lives.

 

Yes, some people did chose not to, like those who gathered in large crowds during the Summer of 2020.  Like the black community who, as aristocrat mentioned, were leery of it because of Tuskegee and because Harris said she wouldn't trust the vaccine.  Meanwhile the vaccine didn't prevent you from getting sick or prevent you from giving it to grandma when you visited her like they claimed.

 

And the studies you mention just looked at blue versus red states and didn't analyze who exactly was getting sick.  Not everyone in a blue state is a Dem and not everyone in a red state is a Republican.

In short, the virus was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.

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Can BillsHomestainlander tell us about the significance of exceedingly rare arginine codons in the furin cleavage site of covid-19?

 

No?

 

Must be too busy Following The Science (TM)!!

 

Meanwhile back to the thread.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Doc said:

Yes, some people did chose not to, like those who gathered in large crowds during the Summer of 2020

 

Sure and many criticized that at the time, because public health isn’t a partisan issue. But let’s not pretend the protest gathering compares to the organized, sustained resistance to basic precautions - mask mandates, social distancing, and later, vaccines - that became a defining feature of the political right. 

 

55 minutes ago, Doc said:

Like the black community who, as aristocrat mentioned, were leery of it because of Tuskegee and because Harris said she wouldn't trust the vaccine. 

 

Yes, and their distrust was rooted in historical abuse - like the Tuskegee experiment you mentioned. But guess what? Black communities closed the gap in vaccination rates, especially in blue states, once trusted messengers and outreach were in place.

 

Meanwhile, large chunks of the conservative base still clung to YouTube pseudoscience and libertarian Facebook memes. Just look at @Big Blitz who still can't accept that Trump was President when the pandemic started. 

 

57 minutes ago, Doc said:

Harris said she wouldn't trust the vaccine. 

 

Would you take medical advice from a guy who told you to drink bleach?

 

Harris said she wouldn’t trust a vaccine pushed solely by Trump without scientific backing - a position that became irrelevant once the vaccines were reviewed and endorsed by the FDA, CDC, and global health experts. And she got vaccinated on camera like every other responsible adult. Why didn't Trump?

 

58 minutes ago, Doc said:

Meanwhile the vaccine didn't prevent you from getting sick or prevent you from giving it to grandma when you visited her like they claimed.

 

It dramatically reduced severe illness, hospitalization, and death - especially in the early waves. That’s how vaccines work: not force fields, but firewalls. And pretending they were worthless because they didn’t offer 100% sterilizing immunity is like saying seatbelts are useless because they don’t prevent all injuries.

 

59 minutes ago, Doc said:

Not everyone in a blue state is a Dem and not everyone in a red state is a Republican.

 

Of course. But we’re talking about state-level outcomes - which correlate overwhelmingly with public health policy, governance, and yes, partisan control. Red states had higher death rates. That’s data you cannot contest.

 

1 hour ago, Doc said:

In short, the virus was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.

 

Sure - it was going to hit. But the scale of the tragedy, the number of lives lost, and the chaos we lived through? That wasn’t inevitable. That was policy failure, willful ignorance, and political theater that cost hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily.

 

 

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Libs want Trump to be the POTUS where Iran gets a nuke.  
 

Same people that rooted for “Covid” deaths.   
 

 

They truly believe the Obama bribe worked and Iran was in no way developing a nuke or pursuing enriching uranium for such purposes.  They’re great trustworthy people.  
 

 

 

My bet is we will be bombing them very soon.  
 

If a deal is made, libs will say Trump caved - the deal is a joke and Iran will cheat anyway.

 

They were totally trustworthy with Obama - but Trump will TACO or some b.s.   

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9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Libs want Trump to be the POTUS where Iran gets a nuke.  
 

Same people that rooted for “Covid” deaths.   
 

 

They truly believe the Obama bribe worked and Iran was in no way developing a nuke or pursuing enriching uranium for such purposes.  They’re great trustworthy people.  
 

 

 

My bet is we will be bombing them very soon.  
 

If a deal is made, libs will say Trump caved - the deal is a joke and Iran will cheat anyway.

 

They were totally trustworthy with Obama - but Trump will TACO or some b.s.   

 

Projection’s a hell of a drug.

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