JDHillFan Posted July 3 Posted July 3 19 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Millions will now have no healthcare and no food. Great stuff, MAGA! They’re all going to die because of republicans. The humanity! The overwroughtness!! 1
Roundybout Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: They’re all going to die because of republicans. The humanity! The overwroughtness!! You’re cool with taking away the healthcare and SNAP benefits of millions? Why?
B-Man Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You’re cool with taking away the healthcare and SNAP benefits of millions? Why? Because they are not legally entitled to them. But you knew that. . 1
JDHillFan Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: You’re cool with taking away the healthcare and SNAP benefits of millions? Why? I prefer to see how it plays out. I didn’t get my panties bunched when Bill Clinton overhauled the food stamp program and I’m not going to do it now. Every one of the democrats doomsday claims falls to sh*t. Your record, for instance, is oh-for-everything. 2 1 2
Big Blitz Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Listen Democrats, just tell yourselves, you and your party supported all that’s in this bill as recently as the 1990s to 2000s. No, it’s not perfect. It was never going to be. But Trump got a bill to pass that is overall good for America and Americans. We told you he was the Center. He gave you a bill that is absolutely that. The far right fiscal conservatives aren’t thrilled. The far left commies are seething. So maybe we did indeed hit a sweet spot. 2
Roundybout Posted July 3 Posted July 3 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Because they are not legally entitled to them. But you knew that. . You’re not beating the accusations that the MAGA ideology is designed around cruelty and human suffering Just now, Big Blitz said: Why is this a good thing? 1
BillsFanNC Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 Self deportations are going to start looking much more attractive very soon.... 1
Roundybout Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Self deportations are going to start looking much more attractive very soon.... Breaking: Gestapo happy to get more money to continue brutal crackdowns on minorities 1
SCBills Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You’re not beating the accusations that the MAGA ideology is designed around cruelty and human suffering Why is this a good thing? Re: ICE, and why is it a good thing. What don’t you understand about the majority of us who voted for Trump, doing so, with the explicit hope that he would pendulum swing on illegal immigration from the last 4 years. Do you have any idea how important of an issue the Biden Administration has made this for so many of us who previously, never really focused much on this topic? It was so over the top, so brazen, such a betrayal to American citizens that we celebrate efforts to take this country back from those who come here to commit crimes and leech off a system we pay into with every paycheck. From politicians who welcome them to cook census numbers to protect themselves against their own political failures. Its not perfect, we already discussed this, but no large scale effort is.. and this one, for the future of America, and American ideals, is one that’s worth it. Edited July 3 by SCBills 2
Roundybout Posted July 3 Posted July 3 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Re: ICE, and why is it a good thing. What don’t you understand about the majority of us who voted for Trump, doing so, with the explicit hope that he would pendulum swing on illegal immigration from the last 4 years. Do you have any idea how important of an issue the Biden Administration has made this for so many of us who previously, never really focused much on this topic? It was so over the top, so brazen, such a betrayal to American citizens that we celebrate efforts to take this country back from those who come here to commit crimes and leech off a system we pay into with every paycheck. From politicians who welcome them to cook census numbers to protect themselves against their own political failures. Its not perfect, we already discussed this, but no large scale effort is.. and this one, for the future of America, and American ideals, is one that’s worth it. Yeah right. If they were “leeching” off the system, why are so many ICE raids conducted on job sites? Why are so many food stand operators being abducted off the street, or families in line at court being snatched away into vans? No, it’s blatantly obvious. You can’t stand seeing poor, huddled masses seeking a better life. If you did, you’d be pushing policy to streamline the immigration process. You wouldn’t be killing programs to improve other countries and prevent migrant crises in the first place. If it was truly about “criminals,” your kind wouldn’t be holding repulsive “mass deportation” signs. You wouldn’t be selling “alligator Alcatraz” merchandise. You wouldn’t be making AI slop pictures and posting them on government accounts. It’s all designed for human suffering. That’s what you want. That’s what MAGA is about. You are dancing with glee watching people sent to torture chambers in El Salvador, or dying in custody in Florida. Nuremberg trials won’t be enough to deal with the people responsible for these atrocities when it’s all said and done. The Garcia testimony is just the tip of the iceberg. 1
SCBills Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Yeah right. If they were “leeching” off the system, why are so many ICE raids conducted on job sites? Why are so many food stand operators being abducted off the street, or families in line at court being snatched away into vans? No, it’s blatantly obvious. You can’t stand seeing poor, huddled masses seeking a better life. If you did, you’d be pushing policy to streamline the immigration process. You wouldn’t be killing programs to improve other countries and prevent migrant crises in the first place. If it was truly about “criminals,” your kind wouldn’t be holding repulsive “mass deportation” signs. You wouldn’t be selling “alligator Alcatraz” merchandise. You wouldn’t be making AI slop pictures and posting them on government accounts. It’s all designed for human suffering. That’s what you want. That’s what MAGA is about. You are dancing with glee watching people sent to torture chambers in El Salvador, or dying in custody in Florida. Nuremberg trials won’t be enough to deal with the people responsible for these atrocities when it’s all said and done. The Garcia testimony is just the tip of the iceberg. Mass Deportations are necessary, but nothing id celebrate. Alligator Alcatraz cheer meme’ing is gross. This still needs to happen. You speak about job site raids.. interesting.. do you support remittance taxing? Because yea, they work hard.. they also send most of their money back home while using our services.
Hank II Posted July 3 Posted July 3 People complain about thr big, rich, greedy corporations and the lack of jobs for Americans. Some of these big, rich, greedy corporations are paying illegal immigrants well below minimum wage, taking away job opportunities from Americans. Make it make sense. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 3 Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, Hank II said: People complain about thr big, rich, greedy corporations and the lack of jobs for Americans. Some of these big, rich, greedy corporations are paying illegal immigrants well below minimum wage, taking away job opportunities from Americans. Make it make sense.
Mikie2times Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah right. If they were “leeching” off the system, why are so many ICE raids conducted on job sites? Why are so many food stand operators being abducted off the street, or families in line at court being snatched away into vans? No, it’s blatantly obvious. You can’t stand seeing poor, huddled masses seeking a better life. If you did, you’d be pushing policy to streamline the immigration process. You wouldn’t be killing programs to improve other countries and prevent migrant crises in the first place. If it was truly about “criminals,” your kind wouldn’t be holding repulsive “mass deportation” signs. You wouldn’t be selling “alligator Alcatraz” merchandise. You wouldn’t be making AI slop pictures and posting them on government accounts. It’s all designed for human suffering. That’s what you want. That’s what MAGA is about. You are dancing with glee watching people sent to torture chambers in El Salvador, or dying in custody in Florida. Nuremberg trials won’t be enough to deal with the people responsible for these atrocities when it’s all said and done. The Garcia testimony is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think it has anything to do with poor huddled masses. Plenty of MAGA are poor. It's more to do with providing anything at all to illegals while many traditional Americans (white male) are not doing the best. The former blue collar has largely become the former lower class and the former lower class is just off the grid completely. The immigrants and minority programs have largely turned into things for the former blue collar to point a finger at and say, but what about me! THAT's the reason it's this way! The government safety net can't/won't provide for both groups. So while simultaneously lining the wealthiest of the wealthy like usual, they're trying to limit the lower / lower class group as much as possible thru program elimination or deportation. Hoping that maybe more will be left over of them. But it will never actually be that way. The less fortunate will just keep getting less and the rich will just keep getting richer. Edited July 3 by Mikie2times 1
muppy Posted July 3 Posted July 3 11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I don't think it has anything to do with poor huddled masses. Plenty of MAGA are poor. It's more to do with providing anything at all to illegals while many traditional Americans (white male) are not doing the best. The former blue collar has largely become the former lower class and the former lower class is just off the grid completely. The immigrants and minority programs have largely turned into things for the former blue collar to point a finger at and say, but what about me! THAT's the reason it's this way! The government safety net can't/won't provide for both groups. So while simultaneously lining the wealthiest of the wealthy like usual, they're trying to limit the lower / lower class group as much as possible thru program elimination or deportation. Hoping that maybe more will be left over of them. But it will never actually be that way. The less fortunate will just keep being more less fortunate and the rich will just keep getting richer. BINGO Mikey 1
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