Rank Allen’s receiving options

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Should never have come to that, defense gave up 32.

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Should never have come to that, defense gave up 32.

the game was lost when Hamlin took out Benford.  

Benford was worth 6 or more points in that particular game 

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

the game was lost when Hamlin took out Benford.  

Benford was worth 6 or more points in that particular game 

Like I said defense lost that game, never should have come down to fourth and five.

[Mister Defense]

On 5/7/2025 at 10:38 AM, oldmanfan said:

Assuming all are healthy:

 

Shakir

Palmer

Kincaid

Coleman

Ty Johnson

Samuel

Cook

Moore

Davis

Knox

 

I like this order the best so far, and too tired to figure it out on my own.

 

If this is the case, I think that is a very  good thing for this offense, as it means Palmer really works out, and that both Kincaid and Coleman show what they can do.  Two young stars, we are all hoping..

 

But I think if the Bills are smart James Cook is targeted much more this year, as he should have been last year.  He is dangerous as f*c* running now, but Cook in open space? Forget about it.  One big play after another, and can break any one of them for long gains--and the defenses will come to understand that.

 

So, more for Cook, and the other backs too, as then it is more likely Coleman and Kincaid ball out too, as they will be open more.

 

I hope you are wrong about Knox, another underutilized player in the passing game.  And he seems to have overcome his problem with drops.

 

 

[oldmanfan]

52 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

I like this order the best so far, and too tired to figure it out on my own.

 

If this is the case, I think that is a very  good thing for this offense, as it means Palmer really works out, and that both Kincaid and Coleman show what they can do.  Two young stars, we are all hoping..

 

But I think if the Bills are smart James Cook is targeted much more this year, as he should have been last year.  He is dangerous as f*c* running now, but Cook in open space? Forget about it.  One big play after another, and can break any one of them for long gains--and the defenses will come to understand that.

 

So, more for Cook, and the other backs too, as then it is more likely Coleman and Kincaid ball out too, as they will be open more.

 

I hope you are wrong about Knox, another underutilized player in the passing game.  And he seems to have overcome his problem with drops.

 

 

I think the good thing about Brady and the way he does things is that this list could, and will, change week to week depending on the matchups he sees.  I think Cook is a real weapon out of the backfield for sure.  But Ty Johnson did a good job on 3rd down, Davis made some good plays, and so on.

 

Going into this off-season the main complaints were not having guys that can separate, and not having a guy that can stretch the field.  Now I don’t necessarily agree with these, but Palmer gets a lot of separation, and Moore gives them a speedier guy.  Josh has 10 guys he can throw the ball too; that’s what Brady wants and Josh did pretty good with that approach last year.

Edited 14 hours ago by oldmanfan

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I think the good thing about Brady and the way he does things is that this list could, and will, change week to week depending on the matchups he sees.  I think Cook is a real weapon out of the backfield for sure.  But Ty Johnson did a good job on 3rd down, Davis made some good plays, and so on.

 

Going into this off-season the main complaints were not having guys that can separate, and not having a guy that can stretch the field.  Now I don’t necessarily agree with these, but Palmer gets a lot of separation, and Moore gives them a speedier guy.  Josh has 10 guys he can throw the ball too; that’s what Brady wants and Josh did pretty good with that approach last year.

 

Really good analysis of what may be the case this season.  I think people are underestimating how much this offense can improve, with the young guys growing into it, the new guys adding new dimensions, and with Brady coming into his own.  And all of this after they were the best Bills offense ever last year, and scored more points than any other team in the league.

 

Pretty exciting to think about what this could become.  And now, also with the kind of defense they have not had in several years, complimenting, supporting this great offense.

 

By Halloween people may  be talking about this offense as one of the best in NFL history. And like so many of the others, as unique unto itself.

 

 

 

[Mister Defense]

On 5/7/2025 at 11:28 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

I think Moore caught a lot of balls but not for a lot of yards. I think that he gets open better than most on the Bills. He also can get down the field even though he hasn’t been used to do that much in the NFL. He to me, feels like a guy that will be better in a Bills uniform than before. 
 

Disclaimer: I was a fan of his coming out so I’m sure some of my feelings are still driven by that.

 

Remember:

 

1.  Zach Wilson was his first quarterback

 

2.  And that KEN DORSEY, the killer of offense, of potential in players, of play calling, of game planning, of scheming wide receivers open, of useful motion, of giving the quarterback clear hot reads when under pressure, of paring the running and passing games to complement each other... was Moore's offensive Offensive Coordinator last year. And his quarterbacks were...???

 

And now, instead,  he has Josh Allen throwing him the ball, and Joe Brady preparing the offense and calling the plays.

 

To me, this may mean all bets are off when it comes to what  Moore can become, the 34th pick in the 2021 draft, with 4.35 speed. 

 

 

 

[philholbroo]

On 5/7/2025 at 9:57 AM, BarleyNY said:

I’m leaving out the RBs, but here are the TEs and WRs that matter listed alphabetically:

 

Coleman

Kincaid

Knox

Moore

Palmer

Samuel

Shakir

 

I’m honestly interested in what people think. I’d put Shakir first, but not by a wide margin. 2-7 could go in almost any order IMO. 

Shakir

Coleman

Kincaid

Palmer

Samuel

Moore

Knox