Republican Self Reflection Thread

[SCBills]

Republican Self Reflection after last night:

 

-Handed the sweep to Virginia due to the shutdown.   We’re never winning the Governorship with Sears, but the shutdown pulled Jay Jones over Jason Miyares due to insane turnout in NoVa and sent R’s into the wilderness for the next decade in Virginia. 
 

-New Jersey showed how poorly Trump/Republicans have done on the economy.  This was a rebuke of the first year due to kitchen table issues and R’s failure to come through on promises made on the affordability front. 
 

-NYC/Mamdami shows how effective Democrats tactic of importing voters can be.  The crown jewel of America, overtaken by a leader elected by foreign born voters.  We’ve seen this happen in places across the country, but now it’s there - in the open.   So what do Republicans do about it?  There’s nothing racist or xenophobic about acknowledging the fact that importing a government dependent voting base will favor, not just Democrats.. but far left DSA Democrats like Mamdami, Fateh etc. 

[IYKYK]

8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I worry most about public safety.

NY will always be left of center as far as most policies go. But the difference between Giuliani (before senility) and Bloomberg vs. Dinkins and De Blasio and (I fear) Mamdani is pretty stark. That's where the mayor makes an on-the-ground difference.

Just out of curiosity. Are you supporting his communist agenda or are you against it?

[4th&long]

2 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

Just out of curiosity. Are you supporting his communist agenda or are you against it?

Do you support trumps fascist agenda or are you against it? 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

-NYC/Mamdami shows how effective Democrats tactic of importing voters can be.  The crown jewel of America, overtaken by a leader elected by foreign born voters.  We’ve seen this happen in places across the country, but now it’s there - in the open.   So what do Republicans do about it?  There’s nothing racist or xenophobic about acknowledging the fact that importing a government dependent voting base will favor, not just Democrats.. but far left DSA Democrats like Mamdami, Fateh etc.

The electorate is constantly in flux. And so it has always been in NYC, which would of course be a Dutch island like Curacao if it hadn't been.

Big influxes of Eastern European Jews, Catholic Irish and Italians, Puerto Ricans, not to mention southern blacks and New England bankers.

You may have a point that we should look at naturalization laws ... are they too lax? Do they allow too many people to become U.S. citizens too quickly? I'm actually kind of mystified by how much time we spend on birthright citizenship (which is in the constitution) vs. naturalization, which is expressly a power of Congress to change as they see fit.

[The Frankish Reich]

10 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

Just out of curiosity. Are you supporting his communist agenda or are you against it?

Of course I'm not supporting his agenda. I would've held my nose and voted for Cuomo.

Again, look at De Blasio and then at Mamdani. They are the same. NY survived one, it'll survive the other. Some day sanity will return to our politics. I doubt I'll live to see it, but ... someday.

[Wolfgang]

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Republican Self Reflection after last night:

 

-Handed the sweep to Virginia due to the shutdown.   We’re never winning the Governorship with Sears, but the shutdown pulled Jay Jones over Jason Miyares due to insane turnout in NoVa and sent R’s into the wilderness for the next decade in Virginia. 
 

-New Jersey showed how poorly Trump/Republicans have done on the economy.  This was a rebuke of the first year due to kitchen table issues and R’s failure to come through on promises made on the affordability front. 
 

-NYC/Mamdami shows how effective Democrats tactic of importing voters can be.  The crown jewel of America, overtaken by a leader elected by foreign born voters.  We’ve seen this happen in places across the country, but now it’s there - in the open.   So what do Republicans do about it?  There’s nothing racist or xenophobic about acknowledging the fact that importing a government dependent voting base will favor, not just Democrats.. but far left DSA Democrats like Mamdami, Fateh etc. 

 

 

 

History will show massive election fraud...

 

The rest of what you typed is mostly nonsense...

[SCBills]

This is probably pretty spot on, as well as predictive. 
 

 

[nedboy7]

15 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Do you support trumps fascist agenda or are you against it? 

You’re using words they don’t understand. Maybe try crayon drawings. 

[thenorthremembers]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Republican Self Reflection after last night:

 

-Handed the sweep to Virginia due to the shutdown.   We’re never winning the Governorship with Sears, but the shutdown pulled Jay Jones over Jason Miyares due to insane turnout in NoVa and sent R’s into the wilderness for the next decade in Virginia. 
 

-New Jersey showed how poorly Trump/Republicans have done on the economy.  This was a rebuke of the first year due to kitchen table issues and R’s failure to come through on promises made on the affordability front. 
 

-NYC/Mamdami shows how effective Democrats tactic of importing voters can be.  The crown jewel of America, overtaken by a leader elected by foreign born voters.  We’ve seen this happen in places across the country, but now it’s there - in the open.   So what do Republicans do about it?  There’s nothing racist or xenophobic about acknowledging the fact that importing a government dependent voting base will favor, not just Democrats.. but far left DSA Democrats like Mamdami, Fateh etc. 

Take a look at the list of NYC Mayors over the last 100 years and tell me why its surprising that a liberal democrat won.    

3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You’re using words they don’t understand. Maybe try crayon drawings. 

 

We are still baffled that your side has no clue what facisim means despite constantly using the word.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Take a look at the list of NYC Mayors over the last 100 years and tell me why its surprising that a liberal democrat won.    

 

We are still baffled that your side has no clue what facisim means despite constantly using the word.

He's not a liberal democrat. 
 

Hes DSA.  A literal Socialist. 
 

His entire voting base was foreign born voters and young transplants. 
 

The only bright side Republicans had last night was Long Island staying red with Suozzi surviving because he disavowed any support for Mamdami. 

[JDHillFan]

22 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You’re using words they don’t understand. Maybe try crayon drawings. 

We have reached peak PPP when NEDBOI gives 4th an attaboy for his vocabulary. It’s all downhill from here. 

[Artful Dodger]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Oh, I think the Dems are getting there. It took a while. Mamdani aside (it's a NY thing, and he's really nothing other than a Muslim De Blasio), the big winners yesterday were two center-left women who gave an air of competence, particularly in comparison with their Republican counterparts.

 

Trump is now suggesting the old double-down strategy, kill the filibuster so we own everything. 

2020 wasn't a mandate in favor of Bidenism; it was a rebuke of Trumpism, particularly Trump incompetence.

2024 wasn't a mandate in favor of Trumpism; it was a rebuke of Biden and Harris incompetence.

 

And, interestingly, both Biden and Trump made the same mistake.  They pretended they had a mandate when in fact it was a rejection of the previous president's policies.  Trump is not prone to self-reflection and won't change, but if the Congressional Republicans don't want to get massacred in the midterms next November, they need to assert themselves and push back against Trump's less popular policies, such as his seemingly endless random and arbitrary tariffs.  

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

This is probably pretty spot on, as well as predictive. 
 

 

Nope.  we're going to stick with "affordability."  trump has 3 years to deliver.  Do you see him doing it?

I was watching the post mortem on Fox just nowandBen Shapiro pointed out the drastic change in the young vote yesterday.  He felt they were disappointed in affordability from trump and they'll likely swing back and forth looking for an answer til someone delivers.

[SCBills]

31 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Nope.  we're going to stick with "affordability."  trump has 3 years to deliver.  Do you see him doing it?

I was watching the post mortem on Fox just nowandBen Shapiro pointed out the drastic change in the young vote yesterday.  He felt they were disappointed in affordability from trump and they'll likely swing back and forth looking for an answer til someone delivers.

Why are you saying “nope”.. that’s exactly what Erickson referenced.  
 

And Shapiro is 100% correct in that. 
 

Gen Z might be more socially conservative but if they can’t get a job, pay rent, afford groceries.. they’ll keep voting back and forth until someone makes that not so. 

[4th&long]

3 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

We have reached peak PPP when NEDBOI gives 4th an attaboy for his vocabulary. It’s all downhill from here. 

Solid contribution. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Why are you saying “nope”.. that’s exactly what Erickson referenced.  
 

And Shapiro is 100% correct in that. 
 

Gen Z might be more socially conservative but if they can’t get a job, pay rent, afford groceries.. they’ll keep voting back and forth until someone makes that not so. 

this what I was disagreeing with

"Fortunately for the GOP, the Democrats are going to over interpret the results of last night and double down in opposition to deportations and in support of very niche curated ideas that rich white progressives love like trans issues and socialism.""

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

this what I was disagreeing with

"Fortunately for the GOP, the Democrats are going to over interpret the results of last night and double down in opposition to deportations and in support of very niche curated ideas that rich white progressives love like trans issues and socialism.""

because they never do that…

 

Might want to watch Mamdami’s victory speech that grew criticism from Van Jones for being divisive and too focused on racial identity politics. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

because they never do that…

 

Might want to watch Mamdami’s victory speech that grew criticism from Van Jones for being divisive and too focused on racial identity politics. 

I did.  He's on the fringe of the party.  As one of the panel discussing it said "He was spiking the football".  Not always wise but understandable given trump directly threatened him

Success begets success.  I think we'll see more Abigail Spanberg and Miki Sherrill like candidates.  Beshear, Shapiro and even Newsome are much more like them than mamdami.

[thenorthremembers]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

He's not a liberal democrat. 
 

Hes DSA.  A literal Socialist. 
 

His entire voting base was foreign born voters and young transplants. 
 

The only bright side Republicans had last night was Long Island staying red with Suozzi surviving because he disavowed any support for Mamdami. 

 

I get that he has socialist ideals.  That said, he is literally a democrat.    And his win seems like its become some sort of rallying cry for democrats when it was obvious he was going to win based on New York City's voting history.