The Frankish Reich Posted yesterday at 05:00 PM Posted yesterday at 05:00 PM 3 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Measles vs autism, which would you like to take a chance on for kids/grandkids? Last I checked I can choose "neither of the above." By the way, the Church Zero of this outbreak isn't white Mennonites. It's lily-white Russian and Ukrainian immigrants. You know, the right kind of immigrants, the kind that you can get to come to America to become little Tucker Carlsons.
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Last I checked I can choose "neither of the above." By the way, the Church Zero of this outbreak isn't white Mennonites. It's lily-white Russian and Ukrainian immigrants. You know, the right kind of immigrants, the kind that you can get to come to America to become little Tucker Carlsons. Really good post. Nothing over the top or idiotic at all. How is Alberta doing with their outbreak? That one is Mennonite related and that’s where most Mennonites in Canada live. Right? Edited yesterday at 05:03 PM by JDHillFan Punctuation
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 05:04 PM Posted yesterday at 05:04 PM 1 hour ago, teef said: No. Absolutely not. To blame this on open boarders is a total cop out. There’s measles outbreaks in pockets all over the country, and guess what? They have the lowest vaccination rates. Florida will likely be the next big outbreak because of the same policies. Illegals have been coming into this country for years and the measles hasn’t become an issure until after COVID. The constant lack of accountability and placing plane by some it too much. I agree. My choices will be informed while yours aren’t. Unvaccinated people are a problem unless they aren’t. That’s obviously true, unless it isn’t.
The Frankish Reich Posted yesterday at 05:04 PM Posted yesterday at 05:04 PM Just now, JDHillFan said: Really good post. Nothing over the top or idiotic at all. How is Alberta doing with their outbreak? That one is Mennonite related and that’s where most Mennonites in Canada live. Right? Look, you were wrong on the Texas outbreak. And the Canada outbreaks. No Third Worldy immigrants in either one. Everyone about as white as white can be. And now you're doubling down on South Carolina. Stupid White People in all 3.
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Look, you were wrong on the Texas outbreak. And the Canada outbreaks. No Third Worldy immigrants in either one. Everyone about as white as white can be. And now you're doubling down on South Carolina. Stupid White People in all 3. Can you show any of my wrongness in either of those cases? I wouldn’t spend a lot of time looking for it. Why so prickly today? Pregame jitters 24 hours early? Since the topic of wrongness has been brought up, why did you post something about Julie Kelly claiming it was from four days ago (Brilliant!) when it was from over three years ago? How did you eff that up so badly? I’m “doubling down” on SC. Lol. You’re on fire! Edited yesterday at 05:11 PM by JDHillFan
JFKjr Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM 33 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Last I checked I can choose "neither of the above." By the way, the Church Zero of this outbreak isn't white Mennonites. It's lily-white Russian and Ukrainian immigrants. You know, the right kind of immigrants, the kind that you can get to come to America to become little Tucker Carlsons. Based on the ever increasing autism statistics it's a lot less of a choice than you imagine it to be.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted yesterday at 06:11 PM Posted yesterday at 06:11 PM 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Children should get Measles vaccinations. Also we shouldn’t have had 4 years of open borders. Seems pretty straightforward and both are causing the uptick. No idea why both sides can’t agree on this. How can we have closed borders? International trade, legal immigration and general travel abroad are always going to happen. No, seems like Trump policies are the main culprit here
teef Posted yesterday at 08:35 PM Posted yesterday at 08:35 PM 3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The numbers jump from 63 to over 2000 since 2010 and you think it is the primarily antivax crowd? We have always had antivax people, the demographic simply changed from hippie liberals to conservatives, what changed is the people bringing it into the country. Without the illegal immigrants the numbers would still be below 100. jesus man. you'll listen to any excuse. so it was strictly due to immigrants? it isn't and you're being fed excuses. you know what the biggest transmitted disease they typically bring in? tb. not measles. and say some did bring measles in with them. they're going to an area where people are making the decision not to get vaccinated, making them more vulnerable and increasing transmission. guess what happened after covid? vaccines became political and idiots started spreading misinformation, making the amount of nonvaccinated people in certain areas skyrocket, but sure...blame immigration rather than stupid decision based on politics. they new antivax crowed blew up after covid...just look as some of the comments in these threads. people who don't have a handle on the science at all now feel they're informed. they're not. they're being confused. 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: Measles vs autism, which would you like to take a chance on for kids/grandkids? do you really think measles cause autism? this is the exact ***** i'm talking about. bad science making the uninformed even more uninformed. 3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Unvaccinated people are a problem unless they aren’t. That’s obviously true, unless it isn’t. what a gem. 3 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Can you show any of my wrongness in either of those cases? I wouldn’t spend a lot of time looking for it. Why so prickly today? Pregame jitters 24 hours early? Since the topic of wrongness has been brought up, why did you post something about Julie Kelly claiming it was from four days ago (Brilliant!) when it was from over three years ago? How did you eff that up so badly? I’m “doubling down” on SC. Lol. You’re on fire! typical cop out.
Orlando Buffalo Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 40 minutes ago, teef said: jesus man. you'll listen to any excuse. so it was strictly due to immigrants? it isn't and you're being fed excuses. you know what the biggest transmitted disease they typically bring in? tb. not measles. and say some did bring measles in with them. they're going to an area where people are making the decision not to get vaccinated, making them more vulnerable and increasing transmission. guess what happened after covid? vaccines became political and idiots started spreading misinformation, making the amount of nonvaccinated people in certain areas skyrocket, but sure...blame immigration rather than stupid decision based on politics. they new antivax crowed blew up after covid...just look as some of the comments in these threads. people who don't have a handle on the science at all now feel they're informed. they're not. they're being confused. The unvaxed numbers were always around 5% in our country until about 2020, since then it has raised to 7%. If you think that 40% increase is the primary reason responsible for a 1400% increase in cases then we can't have a reasonable discussion. A few facts according to the CDC Data from a 2017 study notes that in the U.S., about 38% of imported cases were foreign visitors, while 62% were U.S. residents returning from travel abroad. I will make one other point to you because I made an effort to find the story in 1983 the US had 97% of counties have 0 cases but one county in FL had 93 cases in the first half of the year centered around a migrant camp. If you don't recognize the primary issue as immigration of non immunized people then I can't help you. Truly your argument is now based entirely on "trust me bro" https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000139.htm
The Frankish Reich Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 5 hours ago, JFKjr said: Based on the ever increasing autism statistics it's a lot less of a choice than you imagine it to be. I haven't checked, but it's a good bet you chimed in - at least with a like or two - on the Somali immigration fraud in Minnesota thread. What was the fraud? Payments for false autism diagnoses. When you subsidize something you get more of it. 2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The unvaxed numbers were always around 5% in our country until about 2020, since then it has raised to 7%. If you think that 40% increase is the primary reason responsible for a 1400% increase in cases then we can't have a reasonable discussion. Flawed reasoning. You had herd immunity. Now in some areas you don't. These things don't increase linearly.
Orlando Buffalo Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Flawed reasoning. You had herd immunity. Now in some areas you don't. These things don't increase linearly. Nice job of not responding to the part directly beneath it. And my logic is not flawed you are simply being dishonest, my math is logical. a 40% increase in one related field does become a a 1400% increase in the other. The legal community is still considered reaching a herd immunity of over 92%, so the main driver of the increase of cases is foreign people who are not vaccinated, which is required of legal immigrants
Roundybout Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago You know what will fix this? Doing more pull-ups in a goddamn airport for some reason. Because nothing says “healthy” like a roided up 70-year-old who sounds like his vocal cords had a run-in with a car bomb.
teef Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The unvaxed numbers were always around 5% in our country until about 2020, since then it has raised to 7%. If you think that 40% increase is the primary reason responsible for a 1400% increase in cases then we can't have a reasonable discussion. A few facts according to the CDC Data from a 2017 study notes that in the U.S., about 38% of imported cases were foreign visitors, while 62% were U.S. residents returning from travel abroad. I will make one other point to you because I made an effort to find the story in 1983 the US had 97% of counties have 0 cases but one county in FL had 93 cases in the first half of the year centered around a migrant camp. If you don't recognize the primary issue as immigration of non immunized people then I can't help you. Truly your argument is now based entirely on "trust me bro" https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000139.htm And what about the outbreaks the have zero to do with immigration? They’ve been mentioned in this thread. It’s not a trust me bro moment at all. Just watch over the next few years as these numbers grow due to massive amounts of misinformation after Covid. There’s going to be a point where you just can’t deep blaming immigrants. I’m not saying there’s zero blame there; but it’s yet another excuse for bad policy. Were were also told the immigrants are the cause of crime, housing prices, lack of jobs, etc. now it’s measles. edit: where are you getting your numbers from 5-7%? Edited 7 hours ago by teef
BillsFanNC Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I understand vaccines. - teef What's an adjuvant? What's an epitope? - also teef
Orlando Buffalo Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, teef said: And what about the outbreaks the have zero to do with immigration? They’ve been mentioned in this thread. It’s not a trust me bro moment at all. Just watch over the next few years as these numbers grow due to massive amounts of misinformation after Covid. There’s going to be a point where you just can’t deep blaming immigrants. I’m not saying there’s zero blame there; but it’s yet another excuse for bad policy. Were were also told the immigrants are the cause of crime, housing prices, lack of jobs, etc. now it’s measles. edit: where are you getting your numbers from 5-7%? I am getting the numbers from the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/schoolvaxview/data/index.html I would also appreciate it if you would stop pretending that legal and illegal immigrants are the same I live among a large amount of legal immigrants, you do not, and the legal ones are not the issue here, they are vaccinated.
teef Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 23 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I am getting the numbers from the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/schoolvaxview/data/index.html I would also appreciate it if you would stop pretending that legal and illegal immigrants are the same I live among a large amount of legal immigrants, you do not, and the legal ones are not the issue here, they are vaccinated. This covers kindergartners from yhe 2024-2025 school year. in also referring to illegals when I mention immigrants Edited 7 hours ago by teef
The Frankish Reich Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Nice job of not responding to the part directly beneath it. And my logic is not flawed you are simply being dishonest, my math is logical. a 40% increase in one related field does become a a 1400% increase in the other. The legal community is still considered reaching a herd immunity of over 92%, so the main driver of the increase of cases is foreign people who are not vaccinated, which is required of legal immigrants I hope you don't teach statistics. Or epidemiology. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9641520/ Humans struggle to grasp the extent of exponential growth, which is essential to comprehend the spread of an infectious disease. Exponential growth bias is the tendency to linearize exponential functions when assessing them intuitively. Effective public health communication about the nonlinear nature of infectious diseases has strong implications for the public’s compliance with strict restrictions.
Orlando Buffalo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I hope you don't teach statistics. Or epidemiology. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9641520/ Humans struggle to grasp the extent of exponential growth, which is essential to comprehend the spread of an infectious disease. Exponential growth bias is the tendency to linearize exponential functions when assessing them intuitively. Effective public health communication about the nonlinear nature of infectious diseases has strong implications for the public’s compliance with strict restrictions. I am not arguing that because it is not linear it is not the cause, I am arguing that historically the measles are primarily from foreigners who were not immunized and the hot spots are in areas where large number of illegals are. By the way the exponential factor would have to at a factor of 8 for it to be primarily Americans who are unvaxed, which is not a factor that is normally found in the real world. (1.4'8=14) Cause and effect here is more likely the one that is historically the trend
The Frankish Reich Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I am arguing that historically the measles are primarily from foreigners who were not immunized and the hot spots are in areas where large number of illegals are Except that hasn't been the case! Canada, Texas: Mennonite communities SC: Slavic Christian community (probably immigrants, but not "illegal migrants" as commonly understood) Now onto football ....
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