Trump voter remorse.

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Absolutely, there were serious lapses in security on J6. But the idea that these failures somehow absolve those who stormed the Capitol is backwards.

 

Multiple investigations, including bipartisan Senate reports, confirmed that intelligence failures, poor coordination, and underestimation of the threat all played roles. But none of that justifies the violence or the attempt to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power.

 

Neither the Speaker of the House nor the DC Mayor controls Capitol Police deployments directly. That falls under the Capitol Police Board and federal law enforcement coordination.  You, nor anyone else other than those deflecting from what happened that day, has provided credible evidence Pelosi "refused" security assistance. The narrative that she was somehow responsible is a political talking point, not a conclusion drawn from evidence or the law.

 

You’re right - "he made me do it" isn’t a legal defense and I never said it was. But Trump wasn’t being judged by that standard. The issue is whether he incited or encouraged actions through repeated lies about the election being stolen, pressuring officials, and summoning supporters to the Capitol with inflammatory rhetoric. That happened.

 

Last, the Mueller investigation found extensive contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russian operatives, and multiple Trump aides were convicted or pleaded guilty. While it didn’t establish a criminal conspiracy, the notion that the whole thing was a hoax is simply not supported by the full report. The Senate Intelligence Committee (led by Republicans) confirmed much of the same.

 

We’re going in circles and won’t change each other’s minds, but facts aren’t optional, and they don’t yield to feelings or anyone’s personal rewrite of the Constitution.

 

Good thing you're paying attention.  I (and others) have never made that strawman argument and instead have repeatedly said that what happened that day was an embarrassment and those who committed actual crimes deserved to be punished.

 

The discussion was who was at fault for not providing adequate security, which we both believe could have prevented it.  You think it was a conspiracy by Trump so that people would break into the Capitol even though he never once said for them to do it.  I think it was at best a foolish concern over optics by Pelosi and Bowser and at worst that they wanted something to happen, but outside the Capitol.  Hence the reason Pelosi took the blame for it in her daughter's video.

 

And I will continue to say that "he made me do it/he lit the fuse" isn't a valid excuse for anyone to use or to blame a specific person.  They were adults and their actions were their own.

 

Finally, contact doesn't equal collusion.  And there was zero evidence of any coordinated effort.  You guys just couldn't accept that Hillary lost, to the likes of Trump no less, and accepted any excuse.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Trump’s Poll Numbers Rise, Resistance 2.0 Flops

Democrats and the corporate media continue to attack the President and his party, but no one is listening.

 

by David Catron

May 25, 2025

 

or a sense of how desperate the opponents of President Trump have become, consider the rallying cry issued by Hillary Clinton to her fellow travelers last Friday: “I want you to talk to two people — friends, neighbors, cookout attendees — about why Trump’s proposed budget would be a disaster for American kids.” Now, imagine yourself sitting down to enjoy a hotdog and a beer in the warm spring weather only to be accosted by your progressive brother-in-law who insists on boring the bejabbers out of you with a rote recitation of talking points thoughtfully provided by HRC.

 

It’s difficult to imagine a better strategy for chasing more “normies” away from the Democratic Party, which is already hemorrhaging voters by the millions. That Clinton actually thinks sending pushy progressives out to harass their friends and neighbors is a useful tactic for killing the “Big Beautiful Bill Act” is indicative of how clueless she and the rest of the Democrats are about how dramatically the political landscape has changed during the last decade. 

 

{snip}

 

 And that trend will very likely continue as long as the Democrats keep picking the wrong side of 80-20 issues. As long as they support crazy stuff such as biological males competing in women’s sports, their support among working class voters of all races will shrink.

 

That means they will continue to lose. Intelligent Democrats, an ever shrinking minority, understand that working class voters outnumber “highly educated” voters

2 to 1. The fabled diploma divide has been wildly exaggerated by the corporate media and many degrees handed out by “good schools” are participation trophies. The people who actually produce things know the Democrats have abandoned them. And the resistance? Working class voters know it is an exercise in pseudo-intellectual onanism, though most would use different words to describe it, especially when applied to that loudmouthed brother-in-law.

 

https://spectator.org/trumps-poll-numbers-rise-resistance-2-0-flops/

[BillsFanNC]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Good thing you're paying attention.  I (and others) have never made that strawman argument and instead have repeatedly said that what happened that day was an embarrassment and those who committed actual crimes deserved to be punished.

 

The discussion was who was at fault for not providing adequate security, which we both believe could have prevented it.  You think it was a conspiracy by Trump so that people would break into the Capitol even though he never once said for them to do it.  I think it was at best a foolish concern over optics by Pelosi and Bowser and at worst that they wanted something to happen, but outside the Capitol.  Hence the reason Pelosi took the blame for it in her daughter's video.

 

And I will continue to say that "he made me do it/he lit the fuse" isn't a valid excuse for anyone to use or to blame a specific person.  They were adults and their actions were their own.

 

Finally, contact doesn't equal collusion.  And there was zero evidence of any coordinated effort.  You guys just couldn't accept that Hillary lost, to the likes of Trump no less, and accepted any excuse.

 

 

In the four plus years since J6 how many times total do you think you, I and others have repeated that those who were violent, attacked police etc. deserved to be charged and face justice?

 

Must be in the hundreds by now I'd guess.

 

HomeBillsSlimeLand must have read at least half of those during his time trolling the cesspool.

 

So why repeat it to him again?

 

 

[Doc]

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

In the four plus years since J6 how many times total do you think you, I and others have repeated that those who were violent, attacked police etc. deserved to be charged and face justice?

 

Must be in the hundreds by now I'd guess.

 

HomeBillsSlimeLand must have read at least half of those during his time trolling the cesspool.

 

So why repeat it to him again?

I’m hoping it will finally sink in and we can move on from it. Probably asking too much, but…

[BillsFanNC]

😂

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Big Blitz]

14 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

[JFKjr]

On 5/27/2025 at 10:36 AM, BillsFanNC said:

😂

 

 

 

But, tariffs! The stock market! Fascism!

 

Libnuts love tormenting themselves.

 

 

 

[K D]

On 5/27/2025 at 10:36 AM, BillsFanNC said:

😂

 

 

More like "it happened, a pollster didn't put out a fake biased poll to make Trump look bad." Or the response was so overwhelming they couldn't skew the numbers enough in the Dems' favor