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7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Why are we sending them to places they’re not from? Seems unnecessary and cruel.

Don't break the law and we don't have to throw a dart to determine your next location. Seems like a good deterrent to me.

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RoundyMao doesn't know the basic facts around this issue?

 

I'm shocked.

 

We send them to a third country when their home country refuses to take them back.  I wonder why they don't want to take back violent criminals?

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30 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Don't break the law and we don't have to throw a dart to determine your next location. Seems like a good deterrent to me.


“don’t break the law and we won’t throw you into a den of pit vipers. Seems like a good deterrent to me”

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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/24/us-army-purple-heart-veteran-forced-self-deport-hawaii/

 

After 48 years in the United States, decorated Army veteran Sae Joon Park left his life and family in Hawaii on Monday, not knowing when he’ll see them again....

 

Park was honorably discharged and returned to his then-home in Los Angeles, where he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana to cope with nightmares and sensitivity to loud noises and moved to Hawaii in 1995 for a better lifestyle. But he became addicted to crack cocaine and struggled for years to get clean.

“Drugs had a big control throughout my life and that’s what eventually got me into trouble with the law and everything,” he said.

In 2009, he was convicted for drug and bail offenses and served two and a half years in prison. When he was released, ICE agents detained him and revoked his green card.

He fought deportation in court and as a Purple Heart veteran was allowed to stay in the U.S. under deferred action, as long as he checked in each year and stayed clean and sober.

 

“These last 14 years have been great, like really proud of myself, proud of my kids, how I’ve been acting and how I’ve been living my life,” he said.

 

But this month, officials ended his deferred action status and told him he had to leave the country or be detained and forcibly deported. He was given an ankle monitor and three weeks to handle his affairs. He and his family were in shock.

“People were saying ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said.

 

Way to go ICEholes.

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3 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/24/us-army-purple-heart-veteran-forced-self-deport-hawaii/

 

After 48 years in the United States, decorated Army veteran Sae Joon Park left his life and family in Hawaii on Monday, not knowing when he’ll see them again....

 

Park was honorably discharged and returned to his then-home in Los Angeles, where he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana to cope with nightmares and sensitivity to loud noises and moved to Hawaii in 1995 for a better lifestyle. But he became addicted to crack cocaine and struggled for years to get clean.

“Drugs had a big control throughout my life and that’s what eventually got me into trouble with the law and everything,” he said.

In 2009, he was convicted for drug and bail offenses and served two and a half years in prison. When he was released, ICE agents detained him and revoked his green card.

He fought deportation in court and as a Purple Heart veteran was allowed to stay in the U.S. under deferred action, as long as he checked in each year and stayed clean and sober.

 

“These last 14 years have been great, like really proud of myself, proud of my kids, how I’ve been acting and how I’ve been living my life,” he said.

 

But this month, officials ended his deferred action status and told him he had to leave the country or be detained and forcibly deported. He was given an ankle monitor and three weeks to handle his affairs. He and his family were in shock.

“People were saying ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said.

 

Way to go ICEholes.

While a sad story, who is responsible for his visa status?

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8 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

While a sad story, who is responsible for his visa status?

??  There's no visa status since he moved to this country at 7 years old.  He was a former green card holder who made mistakes after his serving his country, served his time, lost his card in 2009 after crimes and a prison term, but was given deferred action status if he stayed clean and sober and checked in every year which he was doing for 14 years.  A family to look after, and by all accounts recently ICE simply decided to end his deferred status and gave him the option to self deport before they kicked him out.

 

Gotta meet that Trump quota for kicking criminals out.  Traffic tickets, crimes no matter how long ago and even after fully prosecuted/resolved it doesn't matter.

 

All ICE could do was cite his criminal past and ignore the fact that he's lived a clean life since then as they required him to do to maintain deferred status.  Worked a job, paid his taxes, raised a family.

 

Who's ultimately responsible for the situation?  He is and he knows it.  He blames no one, but was shocked yet resigned that he must go back to Korea and probably not be allowed to come back and visit his family again.  Classy and an optimist who is grateful for the privileges he has enjoyed in his life here.

 

But if you or anyone doesn't have the conscience to realize this is wrong and not what this country is about, that's on you.  This NPR article does a better job of quoting his story then the rest:

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/g-s1-74036/trump-ice-self-deportation-army-veteran-hawaii?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com

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11 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

??  There's no visa status since he moved to this country at 7 years old.  He was a former green card holder who made mistakes after his serving his country, served his time, lost his card in 2009 after crimes and a prison term, but was given deferred action status if he stayed clean and sober and checked in every year which he was doing for 14 years.  A family to look after, and by all accounts recently ICE simply decided to end his deferred status and gave him the option to self deport before they kicked him out.

 

Gotta meet that Trump quota for kicking criminals out.  Traffic tickets, crimes no matter how long ago and even after fully prosecuted/resolved it doesn't matter.

 

All ICE could do was cite his criminal past and ignore the fact that he's lived a clean life since then as they required him to do to maintain deferred status.  Worked a job, paid his taxes, raised a family.

 

Who's ultimately responsible for the situation?  He is and he knows it.  He blames no one, but was shocked yet resigned that he must go back to Korea and probably not be allowed to come back and visit his family again.  Classy and an optimist who is grateful for the privileges he has enjoyed in his life here.

 

But if you or anyone doesn't have the conscience to realize this is wrong and not what this country is about, that's on you.  This NPR article does a better job of quoting his story then the rest:

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/g-s1-74036/trump-ice-self-deportation-army-veteran-hawaii?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com

Yeah, I stated it's a sad story. Or perhaps the better way of saying it is that it's unfortunate. And rather than arguing the differences between a green card and a visa, the point is that both come with requirements while in America. Thanks for acknowledging that he is the one responsible for meeting those requirements.

 

Like so many issues, this one comes down to (1) changing the laws or (2) ignoring the laws.

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On 6/24/2025 at 11:32 AM, Roundybout said:


“don’t break the law and we won’t throw you into a den of pit vipers. Seems like a good deterrent to me”

 

On 4/28/2025 at 8:57 AM, Roundybout said:

Don’t do crimes 

 

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16 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

??  There's no visa status since he moved to this country at 7 years old.  He was a former green card holder who made mistakes after his serving his country, served his time, lost his card in 2009 after crimes and a prison term, but was given deferred action status if he stayed clean and sober and checked in every year which he was doing for 14 years.  A family to look after, and by all accounts recently ICE simply decided to end his deferred status and gave him the option to self deport before they kicked him out.

 

 

Uh, yeah, that's what "deferred action" means. It's kicking your deportation down the road a couple of years as a matter of discretion. He had 14 years (renewed his deferment six times, that means) to get his ***** together and get out on his own. 

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