Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM Yeah, no kidding. Trump’s plan is a dismal failure, so it’s no wonder they need to break the law to come close to their goal.
Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Seems pretty straightforward. . Why are we sending them to places they’re not from? Seems unnecessary and cruel.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why are we sending them to places they’re not from? Seems unnecessary and cruel. Don't break the law and we don't have to throw a dart to determine your next location. Seems like a good deterrent to me. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted Tuesday at 03:24 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:24 PM RoundyMao doesn't know the basic facts around this issue? I'm shocked. We send them to a third country when their home country refuses to take them back. I wonder why they don't want to take back violent criminals?
Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 03:32 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:32 PM 30 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Don't break the law and we don't have to throw a dart to determine your next location. Seems like a good deterrent to me. “don’t break the law and we won’t throw you into a den of pit vipers. Seems like a good deterrent to me”
GaryPinC Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/24/us-army-purple-heart-veteran-forced-self-deport-hawaii/ After 48 years in the United States, decorated Army veteran Sae Joon Park left his life and family in Hawaii on Monday, not knowing when he’ll see them again.... Park was honorably discharged and returned to his then-home in Los Angeles, where he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana to cope with nightmares and sensitivity to loud noises and moved to Hawaii in 1995 for a better lifestyle. But he became addicted to crack cocaine and struggled for years to get clean. “Drugs had a big control throughout my life and that’s what eventually got me into trouble with the law and everything,” he said. In 2009, he was convicted for drug and bail offenses and served two and a half years in prison. When he was released, ICE agents detained him and revoked his green card. He fought deportation in court and as a Purple Heart veteran was allowed to stay in the U.S. under deferred action, as long as he checked in each year and stayed clean and sober. “These last 14 years have been great, like really proud of myself, proud of my kids, how I’ve been acting and how I’ve been living my life,” he said. But this month, officials ended his deferred action status and told him he had to leave the country or be detained and forcibly deported. He was given an ankle monitor and three weeks to handle his affairs. He and his family were in shock. “People were saying ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said. Way to go ICEholes.
Pokebball Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/24/us-army-purple-heart-veteran-forced-self-deport-hawaii/ After 48 years in the United States, decorated Army veteran Sae Joon Park left his life and family in Hawaii on Monday, not knowing when he’ll see them again.... Park was honorably discharged and returned to his then-home in Los Angeles, where he suffered from severe PTSD. He turned to marijuana to cope with nightmares and sensitivity to loud noises and moved to Hawaii in 1995 for a better lifestyle. But he became addicted to crack cocaine and struggled for years to get clean. “Drugs had a big control throughout my life and that’s what eventually got me into trouble with the law and everything,” he said. In 2009, he was convicted for drug and bail offenses and served two and a half years in prison. When he was released, ICE agents detained him and revoked his green card. He fought deportation in court and as a Purple Heart veteran was allowed to stay in the U.S. under deferred action, as long as he checked in each year and stayed clean and sober. “These last 14 years have been great, like really proud of myself, proud of my kids, how I’ve been acting and how I’ve been living my life,” he said. But this month, officials ended his deferred action status and told him he had to leave the country or be detained and forcibly deported. He was given an ankle monitor and three weeks to handle his affairs. He and his family were in shock. “People were saying ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said. Way to go ICEholes. While a sad story, who is responsible for his visa status?
GaryPinC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Pokebball said: While a sad story, who is responsible for his visa status? ?? There's no visa status since he moved to this country at 7 years old. He was a former green card holder who made mistakes after his serving his country, served his time, lost his card in 2009 after crimes and a prison term, but was given deferred action status if he stayed clean and sober and checked in every year which he was doing for 14 years. A family to look after, and by all accounts recently ICE simply decided to end his deferred status and gave him the option to self deport before they kicked him out. Gotta meet that Trump quota for kicking criminals out. Traffic tickets, crimes no matter how long ago and even after fully prosecuted/resolved it doesn't matter. All ICE could do was cite his criminal past and ignore the fact that he's lived a clean life since then as they required him to do to maintain deferred status. Worked a job, paid his taxes, raised a family. Who's ultimately responsible for the situation? He is and he knows it. He blames no one, but was shocked yet resigned that he must go back to Korea and probably not be allowed to come back and visit his family again. Classy and an optimist who is grateful for the privileges he has enjoyed in his life here. But if you or anyone doesn't have the conscience to realize this is wrong and not what this country is about, that's on you. This NPR article does a better job of quoting his story then the rest: https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/g-s1-74036/trump-ice-self-deportation-army-veteran-hawaii?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com
Pokebball Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: ?? There's no visa status since he moved to this country at 7 years old. He was a former green card holder who made mistakes after his serving his country, served his time, lost his card in 2009 after crimes and a prison term, but was given deferred action status if he stayed clean and sober and checked in every year which he was doing for 14 years. A family to look after, and by all accounts recently ICE simply decided to end his deferred status and gave him the option to self deport before they kicked him out. Gotta meet that Trump quota for kicking criminals out. Traffic tickets, crimes no matter how long ago and even after fully prosecuted/resolved it doesn't matter. All ICE could do was cite his criminal past and ignore the fact that he's lived a clean life since then as they required him to do to maintain deferred status. Worked a job, paid his taxes, raised a family. Who's ultimately responsible for the situation? He is and he knows it. He blames no one, but was shocked yet resigned that he must go back to Korea and probably not be allowed to come back and visit his family again. Classy and an optimist who is grateful for the privileges he has enjoyed in his life here. But if you or anyone doesn't have the conscience to realize this is wrong and not what this country is about, that's on you. This NPR article does a better job of quoting his story then the rest: https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/g-s1-74036/trump-ice-self-deportation-army-veteran-hawaii?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com Yeah, I stated it's a sad story. Or perhaps the better way of saying it is that it's unfortunate. And rather than arguing the differences between a green card and a visa, the point is that both come with requirements while in America. Thanks for acknowledging that he is the one responsible for meeting those requirements. Like so many issues, this one comes down to (1) changing the laws or (2) ignoring the laws.
JDHillFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 6/24/2025 at 11:32 AM, Roundybout said: “don’t break the law and we won’t throw you into a den of pit vipers. Seems like a good deterrent to me” On 4/28/2025 at 8:57 AM, Roundybout said: Don’t do crimes 1
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