boomerjamhead Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Speaking Wednesday night at a Washington fund-raiser to retire the debt from his 2004 presidential campaign, Nader complained that Democratic Party powerbrokers had kept him off the ballot in such Southern states as Georgia and Virginia - which reminded him of the oppressive Jim Crow laws that denied African-Americans equal rights. "I felt like a [n-word]," remarked the 70-year-old white multimillionaire graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School. Bombs Away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Meanwhile, Sen. Dick Durbin is still comparing us to the nazi regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Bombs Away. 361146[/snapback] One can't bomb away. The TOS says that any discussion about such is taboo. Facts be damned, but that's the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Does anybody here even like Nader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Does anybody here even like Nader? 361323[/snapback] He's one of my all time hero's. With his lightsbare, that mechanical suit, the Dark Side of the Force you said Nader. nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Does anybody here even like Nader? 361323[/snapback] Sure. Nader has become a bit out there in recent years, but his zealousness and intelligence has accomplished a lot of things, many which were worthwhile and good. He is a remarkable man and will be an historical figure, regardless if you argee or disagree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 What part of: "Some people can say things that others can't, look into the source and context." Don't you understand? Take for example, some people's political leanings. Those people won't get the benefit of the doubt knowing their idealogical background... Some people will? Again, what part of that don't you understand? A word is just more than a word. It isn't black and white. Of course he gets a slap on the wrist, he is not a threat. What part of: "Some people get the benefit of doubt, some people have more power." Don't you understand? You gotta know the person who is saying it, then certain powers and priviledge can be granted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Sure. Nader has become a bit out there in recent years, but his zealousness and intelligence has accomplished a lot of things, many which were worthwhile and good. He is a remarkable man and will be an historical figure, regardless if you argee or disagree with him. 361337[/snapback] I agree. I have said it before, StuckInCincy, if there is one conservative that can sway me and bring out my conservative leanings, it is you! Personal responsibility is where it is at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Nader has become a bit out there in recent years, but his zealousness and intelligence has accomplished a lot of things, many which were worthwhile and good. He is a remarkable man and will be an historical figure, regardless if you argee or disagree with him. 361337[/snapback] ...said one white guy to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 John Lennon once commented that "woman is the N-- of the world". So who should have been insulted? Is the objection to the WORD itself or the context in which it's used - meaning someone who's discriminated against, treated like a sub-human, used and abused? It's come to be an ugly word because of the association with slavery and all that means. I'm not defending Nader - it was a stupid thing to say. He doesn't know what it's like nor can he And, thankfully, neither can 99.99999% of the people living in America. If Nader was seeking to make a point, it has been eclipsed by his poor choice of words - it only makes him look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I agree. I have said it before, StuckInCincy, if there is one conservative that can sway me and bring out my conservative leanings, it is you! Personal responsibility is where it is at! 361541[/snapback] EIL, I have always liked you and still do. The thing is, you don't have "conservative leanings." Imo, your views are closer to facism. You support home invasions of people who live in Housing Projects so that "health inspectors" may search for ashtrays and cigarette butts. You support home invasions of the homes of police officers who had drinking problems; terrorizing their wives and children in the process. You support denying the rights of bar owners to allow their patrons to consume a legal product within their own privately owned property. Liberals were nothing like you way back when. They actually stood (or at least many of them did) for freedom. You are against freedom at virtualy every turn, and have sung the praise of Hillary, and now Nader after making inexcusable racial slurs. Not that you should care but I STILL like you, even if you are a facist leaning whacko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemur King Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 EIL, I have always liked you and still do. The thing is, you don't have "conservative leanings." Imo, your views are closer to facism. You support home invasions of people who live in Housing Projects so that "health inspectors" may search for ashtrays and cigarette butts. You support home invasions of the homes of police officers who had drinking problems; terrorizing their wives and children in the process. You support denying the rights of bar owners to allow their patrons to consume a legal product within their own privately owned property. Liberals were nothing like you way back when. They actually stood (or at least many of them did) for freedom. You are against freedom at virtualy every turn, and have sung the praise of Hillary, and now Nader after making inexcusable racial slurs. Not that you should care but I STILL like you, even if you are a facist leaning whacko. 361746[/snapback] Exiled: you sound like an evil person. Please report yourself to the nearest police station for incarceration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 EIL, I have always liked you and still do. The thing is, you don't have "conservative leanings." Imo, your views are closer to facism. You support home invasions of people who live in Housing Projects so that "health inspectors" may search for ashtrays and cigarette butts. You support home invasions of the homes of police officers who had drinking problems; terrorizing their wives and children in the process. You support denying the rights of bar owners to allow their patrons to consume a legal product within their own privately owned property. Liberals were nothing like you way back when. They actually stood (or at least many of them did) for freedom. You are against freedom at virtualy every turn, and have sung the praise of Hillary, and now Nader after making inexcusable racial slurs. Not that you should care but I STILL like you, even if you are a facist leaning whacko. 361746[/snapback] That's pretty good Bill... One of your finest pieces! I like you too! You do know your rhetoric and how to properly use it. Keep up the good work. Nothing like protecting wife-beaters and somebody's right to breathe clean air so they can lead a long productive life spent with their children without fear of being ravaged by cancer. I guess freedom only means what you want it to be. It is okay for you to harm people but, when they harm you... You scream bloody murder. Typical cop for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 That's pretty good Bill... One of your finest pieces! I like you too! You do know your rhetoric and how to properly use it. Keep up the good work. Nothing like protecting wife-beaters and somebody's right to breathe clean air so they can lead a long productive life spent with their children without fear of being ravaged by cancer. I guess freedom only means what you want it to be. It is okay for you to harm people but, when they harm you... You scream bloody murder. Typical cop for ya. 361844[/snapback] Protecting wife beaters? You have the wrong person my friend. I made a living doing the polar opposite. Sorry if I sounded rough on you. It was mostly in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Exiled: you sound like an evil person. Please report yourself to the nearest police station for incarceration. 361771[/snapback] He's just the person to do it. People like Bill are above the law. When something doesn't go their way... They whine, kick, and scream. You can't argue with the rhetoric he spews or you are painted an evil, baby-killing, family hating, Jesus bashing bastard. I do respect his right to paint people with a wide-brush and owe him no explanation. You gotta admit, once he effs somebody, at least he kisses them first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemur King Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 He's just the person to do it. People like Bill are above the law. When something doesn't go their way... They whine, kick, and scream. You can't argue with the rhetoric he spews or you are painted an evil, baby-killing, family hating, Jesus bashing bastard. I do respect his right to paint people with a wide-brush and owe him no explanation. You gotta admit, once he effs somebody, at least he kisses them first! 361847[/snapback] The ole reach around, eh? You're a Jesus basher too? Forget the police station. Hop on a boat for Guantanamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Protecting wife beaters? You have the wrong person my friend. I made a living doing the polar opposite. Sorry if I sounded rough on you. It was mostly in jest. 361846[/snapback] So if a fellow officer is having a problem drinking which leads to domestic violence, you don't support going into his house and making sure he is not drinking? Do you think he should be immediately removed? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 He's just the person to do it. People like Bill are above the law. When something doesn't go their way... They whine, kick, and scream. You can't argue with the rhetoric he spews or you are painted an evil, baby-killing, family hating, Jesus bashing bastard. I do respect his right to paint people with a wide-brush and owe him no explanation. You gotta admit, once he effs somebody, at least he kisses them first! 361847[/snapback] OMG!!! Having a bad day? Well, here comes appology #2........Sorry to hurt your feelings. Happy Father's Day! Gotta admit, that last sentence WAS funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 The ole reach around, eh? You're a Jesus basher too? Forget the police station. Hop on a boat for Guantanamo. 361849[/snapback] He did say he likes me. Is that the reach around? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 It also comes down to being a person of honor. When told to stop doing something that is harming another, they stop. Unfortunately, we don't live in a society that likes to yield to anyone. I wonder why? Then, in a half-hearted attempt, legislative acts start to take over in place of that honor. I am not saying it (the laws) work but, they (the laws) attempt to fill the void left by the shortcomings of society at a personal level. I posted this earlier Bill. It was meant for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 So if a fellow officer is having a problem drinking which leads to domestic violence, you don't support going into his house and making sure he is not drinking? Do you think he should be immediately removed? ?? 361850[/snapback] An officer accused of domestic violence is arrested FASTER than anyone else in NYC. Believe this as you choose. Officers accused of non-violent domestic incidents (such as loud verbal arguments, etc.) are already visited by Field Internal Affairs Units, as are their spouses. Next question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 OMG!!! Having a bad day? Well, here comes appology #2........Sorry to hurt your feelings. Happy Father's Day! Gotta admit, that last sentence WAS funny. 361851[/snapback] Actually, not. I am trying to get out of this place. You didn't hurt my feelings. I just think this smoking crusade is silly... Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. You throw barbs at me then come bearing roses... WTF is up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 It also comes down to being a person of honor. When told to stop doing something that is harming another, they stop. Unfortunately, we don't live in a society that likes to yield to anyone. I wonder why? Then, in a half-hearted attempt, legislative acts start to take over in place of that honor. I am not saying it (the laws) work but, they (the laws) attempt to fill the void left by the shortcomings of society at a personal level. I posted this earlier Bill. It was meant for you. 361853[/snapback] Thank you. Please, continue to educate me as to how to have "honor." All this time, I thought that I was about freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 An officer accused of domestic violence is arrested FASTER than anyone else in NYC. Believe this as you choose. Officers accused of non-violent domestic incidents (such as loud verbal arguments, etc.) are already visited by Field Internal Affairs Units, as are their spouses. Next question? 361854[/snapback] Ya, right. I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Thank you. Please, continue to educate me as to how to have "honor." All this time, I thought that I was about freedom. 361856[/snapback] Freedom to harm other people and unborn children? Puff away Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Actually, not. I am trying to get out of this place. You didn't hurt my feelings. I just think this smoking crusade is silly... Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. You throw barbs at me then come bearing roses... WTF is up with that? 361855[/snapback] You are reading too much into it. You are a person to whom I enjoy posting, but we take different sides on almost every issue. If you wish, I will tone it down when posting to you. Again, I meant no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Freedom to harm other people and unborn children? Puff away Bill. 361858[/snapback] Pregnant women might be wise to stay out of bars, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 You are reading too much into it. You are a person to whom I enjoy posting, but we take different sides on almost every issue. If you wish, I will tone it down when posting to you. Again, I meant no harm. 361859[/snapback] Same here Bill... I should have let it go... I do get fiesty... Nothing is wrong with your assumptions. I try and relate to everything. I am not for these screwy laws but, understand the knee-jerk reaction and attempt to adapt to them... THAT'S ALL. Maybe we will meet someday and put these differences to rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. 361855[/snapback] You've posted some pretty dumb and hypocritical things here over the years, but this is probably the worst of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 After reading that my only real question is when was Al Sharpton coronated King of the Blacks, Defender of the N-Word, and Arbiter of all things race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 After reading that my only real question is when was Al Sharpton coronated King of the Blacks, Defender of the N-Word, and Arbiter of all things race? November 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 You've posted some pretty dumb and hypocritical things here over the years, but this is probably the worst of it. 361868[/snapback] Why is it hypocritical? He is not a cop anymore. His job was to ENFORCE the law, not make it. I can just imagine how he would act if he was still working. The law is the law. When it is your job to enforce it, you do just that. You don't undermine it, whine, kick and scream. Do your job and what is told of you. Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Why is it hypocritical? EXHIBIT A: Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. 361855[/snapback] EXHIBIT B: Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? 362012[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 EXHIBIT A: EXHIBIT B: 362079[/snapback] Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. ~Walt Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Why is it hypocritical? He is not a cop anymore. His job was to ENFORCE the law, not make it. I can just imagine how he would act if he was still working. The law is the law. When it is your job to enforce it, you do just that. You don't undermine it, whine, kick and scream. Do your job and what is told of you. Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? ?? 362012[/snapback] EIL, are you now taking a stand for strict enforcement of every law? If a man with a perfect driving record is driving with his wife and kids and forgets to signal when he changes lanes, are you FOR this man getting summonsed to court? Should ALL Jaywalkers be targeted as well? Police work lesson #1: You cannot survive in this business without the use of DISCRETION. Police work lesson #2: You cannot survive in this business without friends. A badge and a gun do not make one more powerful than the society one protects. One poster on this board claims to have been victimized by police (ticketed) on a holiday, in the presence of his children for something he deems minor. Truthfully his story seems sketchy but if true, that officer made an enemy both to himself, and other cops. You can't please everybody. There are times where you simply must "do what you gotta do," but trust me, it is better to strike a balance than to ride roughshod over people and simply enforce everything; which is a losing proposition, and can border on bullying and abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 EIL, are you now taking a stand for strict enforcement of every law? If a man with a perfect driving record is driving with his wife and kids and forgets to signal when he changes lanes, are you FOR this man getting summonsed to court? Should ALL Jaywalkers be targeted as well? Police work lesson #1: You cannot survive in this business without the use of DISCRETION. Police work lesson #2: You cannot survive in this business without friends. A badge and a gun do not make one more powerful than the society one protects. One poster on this board claims to have been victimized by police (ticketed) on a holiday, in the presence of his children for something he deems minor. Truthfully his story seems sketchy but if true, that officer made an enemy both to himself, and other cops. You can't please everybody. There are times where you simply must "do what you gotta do," but trust me, it is better to strike a balance than to ride roughshod over people and simply enforce everything; which is a losing proposition, and can border on bullying and abuse. 362125[/snapback] I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Does anybody here even like Nader? 361323[/snapback] Luke Does- thats his father! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 So I read that Nader is calling for Bush's impeachment? Well, Ralph, I guess there was a difference b/w the candidates after all. Idiot. One of my older cousins, she's ~45 now, worked on one of his campaigns twenty-odd years back. My uncle, an avowed Maine Republican, voted for Nader twice on the premise that he didn't play grabass with her. If you read that expose of Nader on Salon at election time he makes John Bolton's management style look like Barney and Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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