Will Beane successfully move around on Day 3?

[BuffaloBillyG]

10 minutes ago, Billl said:

Jaden Hicks was Brugler’s #1 Safety, 39th best player overall, and he went 133rd.  There’s plenty of draftable players still out there.

Cool. What team is Brugler working for?

 

As we all should know by now media and "experts" draft boards are very different than actual teams draft boards. Bet Brugler had T'Vondre Sweat and AD Mitchell taking up spots on his board as well. I can say with confidence that they (along with many other players) were off of some team boards like players are every year. When experts say they have "150" draftable grades, it's not taking into account medicals, behavioral issues, scheme specific gradings. Many teams boards are much smaller 

Edited April 27 by BuffaloBillyG

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Cool. What team is Brugler working for?

 

As we all should know by now media and "experts" draft boards are very different than actual teams draft boards. Bet Brugler had T'Vondre Sweat and AD Mitchell taking up spots on his board as well. I can say with confidence that they (along with many other players) were off of team boards like every year. When experts say they have "150" draftable grades, it's not taking into account medicals, behavioral issues, scheme specific gradings. Many teams boards are much smaller 

 

Exactly...all they can do is give a "general" grade based on "general" schemes but teams have specific schemes and specific traits they want players to have.

[Radar]

11 minutes ago, Hsker4life said:

Based on your scouting expertise, of course.

Based on we need drafted players because we have no cap space.This was a draft when we should have taken defensive BPA in first round.

Edited April 27 by Radar

[benderbender]

At what point does 5th round pick = UDFA?

[Billl]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Cool. What team is Brugler working for?

 

As we all should know by now media and "experts" draft boards are very different than actual teams draft boards. Bet Brugler had T'Vondre Sweat and AD Mitchell taking up spots on his board as well. I can say with confidence that they (along with many other players) were off of team boards like every year. When experts say they have "150" draftable grades, it's not taking into account medicals, behavioral issues, scheme specific gradings. Many teams boards are much smaller 

Brugler is one of the most respected draft analysts in the business.  If you don’t have his top overall Safety as a draftable player then you’re doing something wrong.  Brenden Rice is still on the board, and that’s his 103rd overall player.  Gabriel Murphy is his 127th overall, and he’s still available.  

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, benderbender said:

At what point does 5th round pick = UDFA?

Supposedly in the vicinity of 150 or after, but given that every team evaluates differently there are probably 10-20 or so players in the Bills top 150 once they get to their late 5th rounders.

[Billl]

Still 5 of Daniel Jeremiah’s top 100 players on the board.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, Billl said:

Brugler is one of the most respected draft analysts in the business.  If you don’t have his top overall Safety as a draftable player then you’re doing something wrong.  Brenden Rice is still on the board, and that’s his 103rd overall player.  Gabriel Murphy is his 127th overall, and he’s still available.  

Super. 

 

Again, what do their medicals (which he does not have access to) look like? What about their interviews with teams? How deep does he dip into each players background and interview past teammates? 

 

A draft analyst looks at film and gives his perspective based off that (which is subjective). 

 

We are in the 150s. If his opinion was shared by the teams those players wouldn't have gotten passed over. Obviously, for whatever reason 32 NFL GMs disagree.

[Billl]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Super. 

 

Again, what do their medicals (which he does not have access to) look like? What about their interviews with teams? How deep does he dip into each players background and interview past teammates? 

 

A draft analyst looks at film and gives his perspective based off that (which is subjective). 

 

We are in the 150s. If his opinion was shared by the teams those players wouldn't have gotten passed over. Obviously, for whatever reason 32 NFL GMs disagree.

Then why in the world didn’t Beane trade all of this 5th round picks to move up?  I guess I don’t understand your position.  Do you really think there are no players left who will make NFL rosters or have solid careers?

[BuffaloBillyG]

10 minutes ago, Billl said:

Then why in the world didn’t Beane trade all of this 5th round picks to move up?  I guess I don’t understand your position.  Do you really think there are no players left who will make NFL rosters or have solid careers?

As for your first question, he said yesterday he wasn't planning on moving up round 4. This shouldn't be a shock. There was still value on the board when they picked as per his draft board.  And he has already turned one of those 5ths into a 4th next year. Pretty nice day at the office.

 

As per your second question, of course there will be guys drafted that make rosters drafted late. Practice squads as well. It's about finding value meeting need meeting fit this late. 

[Chandler#81]