sherpa Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Are the documentaries just bull sh it? Grossly off topic, but........ Do you ever care or wonder who takes you seriously here? I can't think of anyone. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, B-Man said: CIA in Ukraine: Why is this not seen as provocation? An explosive new NYT report shows how Washington needlessly fed into Russia’s worst fears and precipitated the invasion, justified or not MARK EPISKOPOS The White House’s messaging on the Ukraine war is built around two simple-yet-powerful adjectives: “We are united in our condemnation,” said President Joe Biden almost two years ago in a joint statement with EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, “of Russia’s unjustified and unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine.” The “unjustified and unprovoked” line has been used numerous times by a chorus of top U.S. officials and allies, quickly becoming a rhetorical mainstay of Biden’s maximum pressure campaign against the Kremlin. This messaging conflates two important, yet fundamentally different issues. There is little question that Russia’s invasion has wrought a horrific human toll on Ukraine and upended European security in ways that few anticipated prior to February 2022. But it is also not without its context, which includes a litany of grievances that — however unjustified from the perspective of the West — constitute what the Kremlin saw as sufficient provocation to initiate the most destructive war in Europe since 1945. An explosive New York Times exposé by Adam Entous and Michael Schwirtz sheds light on major developments preceding the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. According to the report, the Ukrainian government entered into a wide-ranging partnership with the CIA against Russia. This cooperation, which involved the establishment of as many as 12 secret CIA “forward operating bases” along Ukraine’s border with Russia, began not with Russia’s 2022 invasion, but just over 10 years ago. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/cia-ukraine-russia/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 16 hours ago, sherpa said: Grossly off topic, but........ Do you ever care or wonder who takes you seriously here? I can't think of anyone. No, not really. Should I? You seem angry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, not really. Should I? You seem angry If you had self awareness you would Seems that person was trying to help you out with that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: If you had self awareness you would Seems that person was trying to help you out with that issue. Oh really, you sure he wasn't just tossing out an insult? Sort of like this: You are a moron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh really, you sure he wasn't just tossing out an insult? Sort of like this: You are a moron If a rambling homeless person on the street looks at you and says "your a moron". Does it mean anything? Not really as it lacks the knowledge (self awareness) that everyone has watched it ramble about crazy and call everyone not rambling crazy, insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Tommy Callahan said: If a rambling homeless person on the street looks at you and says "your a moron". Does it mean anything? Not really as it lacks the knowledge (self awareness) that everyone has watched it ramble about crazy and call everyone not rambling crazy, insults. Depends if you are in love or not. If you are, nothing else matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 True. And the left loves toast. I mean state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daz28 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 58 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: If you cast a net 1000 times and get nothing, why not throw it again. This is an illegal lawfare fishing expedition against a US citizen. If this was Jared, you'd all be losing your minds. The top Republicans on the House Judiciary and Oversight and Accountability committees, Jim Jordan of Ohio and James Comer of Kentucky, respectively, said they do not know why the CIA intervened but said it aligns with other Biden administration efforts to thwart the probe of the president’s son that were exposed by two IRS whistleblowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: “As part of the impeachment inquiry, the Committees are investigating, among other things, whether President Biden “abuse[d] his power as President to impede, obstruct, or otherwise hinder in investigations or prosecution of Hunter Biden” He did it as VP in the Ukraine, he sure as sh!t did it again as President. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/5/2024 at 3:52 PM, JaCrispy said: It’s not that we are shocked…everyone knows the illegal activities the CIA gets away with… Our whole point is to just not be surprised if Russia invades a country (who had always been friendly to them) because the CIA orchestrates a coup, in that country, to oppose Russia, in an attempt to diminish Russia’s energy production…👍 This whole war is the fault of the American Establishment, and it’s CIA foot soldiers…And I will always oppose sending one penny more, to fund it… You really don't understand Russias influence in Ukraine or Eastern europe at all. Ukraine had been friendly to Russia? No, Ukraine was under Russia's thumb. It's the same story that played out in many former Soviet states. Countries like Czech Republic and Poland had an easier time excising their Russian cancer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: You really don't understand Russias influence in Ukraine or Eastern europe at all. Ukraine had been friendly to Russia? No, Ukraine was under Russia's thumb. It's the same story that played out in many former Soviet states. Countries like Czech Republic and Poland had an easier time excising their Russian cancer. But Ukraine is not under the US’s thumb now? It’s all because the U.S. wanted to dominate Europes oil production, and Ukraine was the key… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 @ Lronfuk.cstain Mike Benz knows, and has been proven correct about, US security state matters in regard to Ukraine /Russia than all other serious media sources combined. You know, because he actually worked at the State department in cyber security. So Lron, take your Ukraine / Russia media propaganda talking points and go fuk.c yourself with them. Hard. For serious posters, I highly recommend following him, and at the very least listening to this onterview. If this doesn't wake you up, nothing will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: But Ukraine is not under the US’s thumb now? It was when somebody needed a favor. Who knew they were that close to war with Russia when he made the ask? I dunno, maybe the president who likes picture briefings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: But Ukraine is not under the US’s thumb now? It’s all because the U.S. wanted to dominate Europes oil production, and Ukraine was the key… Comparing apples to rocket ships. Can the US tip scales? Certainly. I'm sure they have by legal and illegal methods. But if you're comparing our influence to Russia, even now during this war, you are approaching the absurd. Russia has owned more than one top, and I mean very top, elected official in Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, daz28 said: It was when somebody needed a favor. Who knew they were that close to war with Russia when he made the ask? I dunno, maybe the president who likes picture briefings? Crimea and the disputed regions had a "Russia maiden" right at the same time of the western supported "euromaiden". In 2014. Edited March 22 by Tommy Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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