njbuff Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Why oh why do stupid libs make stupid threads on a football message board? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why oh why do stupid libs make stupid threads on a football message board? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Yes, famously Paul Vallas and Brandon Johnson are exactly the same and that’s why nobody cared about Chicago’s mayoral election and it didn’t get any national coverage and definitely wasn’t talked about here. You are actually arguing the Chicago teacher union head is the conservative leader of the big city Dems? Tell me what Vallas said that I or other conservatives would agree with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 So, what's the term for Autocracy. Where the Authoritarians worship the state as a god, not some old religion? Cause that's where the DNC is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 9:35 AM, njbuff said: Why oh why do stupid libs make stupid threads on a football message board? 👆🤡👇😂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: So, what's the term for Autocracy. Where the Authoritarians worship the state as a god, not some old religion? Cause that's where the DNC is right now. Most if not all Democrats do not worship the state as if it were infallible. Rather, it's that they tend to have faith in democratic government when it represents and serves the needs and interests of its citizenry. Autocracy by definition is rule by autocrats, a small, elite group that serve their own needs at the expense of the rest of the citizenry. Autocrats maintain their power with openly overt coercion, not subversive Big Brother ideology. Conflating being pro-government with being autocratic is an incredible false equivalency, and a pathetically simple-minded one at that. Edited November 7, 2023 by Capco 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) On 11/5/2023 at 12:08 AM, reddogblitz said: Enough with the David and Goliath analogy. Neither side has clean hands. Both are victims and victimizers. Why do you think Israel has check points etc? Just to be mean? Why did they build the Iron Dome missile defense system and have bomb shelters for its citizens? Did the Munich Massacre, airplane hijacking, bus bombings, discotecque bombings, .. have anything to do with how Israel treats Palestine? Of course The Catastrophe was also brutal and mean. The settlements in the Green Zone are not helping things either. I don't know what the answer is but I'm sure as heck not siding with the duly elected terrorist leadership like you seem to be. I'm not really siding with either side cuz it's not like a football game where I'm siding with the good guys (Buffalo Bills). Allah says if you are being oppressed, kill the oppressors. Ok. But they've been trying this strategy of terrorism for 60+ years and they always lose and their citizens pay the price cuz Isreal is way stronger than them. It is trying the same strategy and expecting different results. When is enough enough? Seems never. It takes 2 to tango. Doesn't appear Hamas is in the international conversation to survive. That's good. I've heard the Palestinian "authority" mentioned several times as successors. Sounds good. But this country was set up by clearly self serving nations as a proxy in the middle east or at least it has become one. Why not give them a woeful US state or an Island off England back then. Think about why... Edited November 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Doesn't appear Hamas is in the international conversation to survive. That's good. I've heard the Palestinian "authority" mentioned several times as successors. Sounds good. But this country was set up by clearly self serving nations as a proxy in the middle east or at least it has become one. Why not give them a woeful US state or an Island off England back then. Think about why... Perhaps it was at least in part because of 6,000,000 Jews having just been killed in the Holocaust? The western world felt guilty about it. I haven't really researched that aspect of it. There was a lot of fighting between Jews and Palestinians and Great Britain couldn't control it so they dumped it. I don't know, the past is a foreign country. They do things differently there. You're big on giving them a state, why not Virginia? Why do you think they did what they did? Edited November 7, 2023 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Capco said: Most if not all Democrats do not worship the state as if it were infallible. Rather, it's that they tend to have faith in democratic government when it represents and serves the needs and interests of its citizenry. Autocracy by definition is rule by autocrats, a small, elite group that serve their own needs at the expense of the rest of the citizenry. Autocrats maintain their power with openly overt coercion, not subversive Big Brother ideology. Conflating being pro-government with being autocratic is an incredible false equivalency, and a pathetically simple-minded one at that. Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. http://Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. Not democracy. Its that very small elite group. and why they work for them, not us. but keep thinking they do represent and work for you. thats just silly on your part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. http://Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. Not democracy. Its that very small elite group. and why they work for them, not us. but keep thinking they do represent and work for you. thats just silly on your part. How much did the NRA spend? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) $786,052 National Rifle Assn Profile: Summary • OpenSecrets And Everytown - $1,740,570 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/everytown-for-gun-safety/summary?toprecipcycle=2022&contribcycle=2022&lobcycle=2022&outspendcycle=2022&id=D000067401&topnumcycle=2020 Edited November 7, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: $786,052 National Rifle Assn Profile: Summary • OpenSecrets And Everytown - $1,740,570 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/everytown-for-gun-safety/summary?toprecipcycle=2022&contribcycle=2022&lobcycle=2022&outspendcycle=2022&id=D000067401&topnumcycle=2020 That's cute. Now do donations from all the other Pro gun PACS and all the known dark money flowing thru them and the NRA. Gun Rights PACs contributions to candidates, 2019-2020 • OpenSecrets HOW RUSSIAN HACKERS HELPED EXPOSE THE RIGHT-WING DARK MONEY CORRUPTING OUR COURTS Inside the NRA’s Koch-Funded Dark-Money Campaign Donors, key findings, and profiles of the top 15 dark money groups 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) LOL sourcing Sheldon Whitehouse and mother jones. Wont get into what side of that narrative wants to remove Americans rights. but either way insane money in politics only keeps tools as the choice. And no one without the backing of crust money will get a voice Edited November 7, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, BillStime said: That's cute. Now do donations from all the other Pro gun PACS and all the known dark money flowing thru them and the NRA. Gun Rights PACs contributions to candidates, 2019-2020 • OpenSecrets HOW RUSSIAN HACKERS HELPED EXPOSE THE RIGHT-WING DARK MONEY CORRUPTING OUR COURTS Inside the NRA’s Koch-Funded Dark-Money Campaign Donors, key findings, and profiles of the top 15 dark money groups Yup, they want to flood the country with guns to create violence and then say we need more gun$$$$$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: LOL sourcing Sheldon Whitehouse and mother jones. Wont get into what side of that narrative wants to remove Americans rights. but either way insane money in politics only keeps tools as the choice. And no one without the backing of crust money will get heard. Oh, I'm sorry, do you want me to find another source or do they all disrupt your narrative? idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yup, they want to flood the country with guns to create violence and then say we need more gun$$$$$ When one has Billionaire funded groups trying to infringe. http://Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Still waiting on you to give the logistics of how the state would get them. you guys always go quiet when that part gets asked. the Oxford comma. But again, great job pointing to where Highly funded packs are pushing wedge topics and driving political narratives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. http://Political spending in the 2020 election totaled $14.4 billion, more than doubling the total cost of the record-breaking 2016 presidential election cycle. That’s according to OpenSecrets’ analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. OpenSecrets previously estimated that the 2020 election would cost around $14 billion. The extraordinary spending figure makes the 2020 election the most expensive of all time by a large margin. Not democracy. Its that very small elite group. and why they work for them, not us. but keep thinking they do represent and work for you. thats just silly on your part. There's a reason why I used the qualifier "when" in my second sentence. The government doesn't always represent the citizenry at large because the government isn't infallible. People who are support democratic government believe it's better to get government to represent and work for them again than to downsize and eliminate government. That is not anything close to autocracy. Additionally, the figure you offered is total spending on both parties. So how does that support your claim of autocracy squarely falling on the Democrats? It's not like the Republicans are the party of the common person and don't get disproportionately enormous donations from corporations and big businesses. I completely hear you when you say this country doesn't represent the average citizen as much as it represents a small elite group. I see it too. But you completely lose me when you try to make it sound like the Democrats have an exclusive monopoly on autocracy and oligarchy. This ultimately isn't a partisan issue. It's a "haves and the have-nots" issue. Reducing this to a partisan issue is not only ingenuine, it keeps one half of the have-nots at odds with the other half. Kinda like we are doing rn lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Capco said: It's a "haves and the have-nots" issue. Absolutely. This is class warfare disguised as culture warfare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 18 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: LOL sourcing Sheldon Whitehouse and mother jones. Wont get into what side of that narrative wants to remove Americans rights. but either way insane money in politics only keeps tools as the choice. And no one without the backing of crust money will get a voice That’s rich redstate.com total joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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