gggbills Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Not sure if this has been posted yet: Browns | Verba to be Gone Soon? - from www.KFFL.com Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:25:57 -0700 Roger Brown, of the Plain Dealer reports Cleveland Brown OT Ross Verba could be granted his request to be released soon. He has even put his house up for sale. Verba has been holding out and demanding more money. "If Verba was smart, he'd be in Berea [today] clearing out his stuff - instead of waiting for [the Browns] to pack it for him," said one source close to the situation. Does anyone know anything about this guy? Perhaps he is an upgarde from what we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Verba wants a new 5-year $38 million contract, which is why the Browns may have signed Shelton. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindeale...6411.xml&coll=2 Doesn't look like anything special, although he gave up only 1.5 sacks last year. Here's his 2004 Scouting Report from Scouts Inc. Name: Ross Verba Position: Offensive Tackle Grade: 67 | Key Alert: D Comment: Verba is the epitome of a tough hard nosed over achiever that only has average athleticism. He is a smart player, he doesn't have a lot of wasted motion, and plays with good techniques. Takes good angles to his blocks, does a nice job of keeping the defender in front of his face, and comes off the ball with good quickness. Plays with leverage, and despite his aggressiveness he does a nice job not lunging and as a result, he is not on the ground a lot. He is not what you are looking for in terms of a range LOT that can handle speed rushers off the edge, and in fact, he can have problems with players that beat him with first step quickness. While he appears somewhat comfortable in space, he does not look terrific when going after linebackers or sliding out wide to pass protect and generally making blocks on the move. For all of his aggressiveness, he does not have great power, and big, strong, two gap bull rushers can give him problems when they come over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Is Verba an upgrade from Gandy? Yes. Will signing Verba be cheap? Hells no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Looks like Verba may have some character/legal problems: http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/index....rofile&name=496 (Jan. 15, 2005) No charges will be filed in the first alleged rape at the home of Browns left tackle Ross Verba that occured Dec. 17, according to the Akron Beacon Journal. Another alleged sexual assault at Verba's Dec. 29 is still being investigated. http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=28322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggbills Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Looks like Verba may have some character/legal problems: http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/index....rofile&name=496 (Jan. 15, 2005) No charges will be filed in the first alleged rape at the home of Browns left tackle Ross Verba that occured Dec. 17, according to the Akron Beacon Journal. Another alleged sexual assault at Verba's Dec. 29 is still being investigated. http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=28322 351621[/snapback] Oh, now that's not good news. Does not sound like TD's or RW's kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Oh, now that's not good news. Does not sound like TD's or RW's kind of guy. 351628[/snapback] But.....I've heard of him!!!! What's the hold up TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Never fear, somebody will overpay for this jackass and live to regret it. I'd bet on any team in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 But.....I've heard of him!!!! What's the hold up TD. 351674[/snapback] The answer to that little chestnut can be found in your avatar... " Mmmmm.....thongs!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Verba wants a new 5-year $38 million contract, which is why the Browns may have signed Shelton. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindeale...6411.xml&coll=2 Doesn't look like anything special, although he gave up only 1.5 sacks last year. Here's his 2004 Scouting Report from Scouts Inc. Name: Ross Verba Position: Offensive Tackle Grade: 67 | Key Alert: D Comment: Verba is the epitome of a tough hard nosed over achiever that only has average athleticism. He is a smart player, he doesn't have a lot of wasted motion, and plays with good techniques. Takes good angles to his blocks, does a nice job of keeping the defender in front of his face, and comes off the ball with good quickness. Plays with leverage, and despite his aggressiveness he does a nice job not lunging and as a result, he is not on the ground a lot. He is not what you are looking for in terms of a range LOT that can handle speed rushers off the edge, and in fact, he can have problems with players that beat him with first step quickness. While he appears somewhat comfortable in space, he does not look terrific when going after linebackers or sliding out wide to pass protect and generally making blocks on the move. For all of his aggressiveness, he does not have great power, and big, strong, two gap bull rushers can give him problems when they come over the top. 351613[/snapback] Thanks for providing thr overview above. It is merely one opinion and may not be totally accurate. However. it is detailed and specific and far exceeds the usual fact-free opion that a player totally sucks or that he is great. IF (and I mean IF) Verba is available and this assessment is accurate he sounds like his strengths and weaknesses match up well with our plans and ability to make up for the failings of any player. Specifically: 1. Verba missed all of the 03 season with what I assume was a huge injury, but he started all 16 games last year after starting all 16 in 2002 which is a tangible objective indicator that he has recovered. The ability to suit it up and start is essential for a player that we are going to give the big buclks to and Jenning inability to ever start all 16 in his 4 years is one of the reasons I am happy the Bills passed on giving him the kind of contract SF gave him. 2. The write up of his strengths in terms of keeping the defender in front of him, taking good angles and getting good leverage is a primary need for us in O that is going to run on the first play and run again. If Verba can play for us and force the defender to deal with him and if he does then deal with a WM stiff arm I feel good about the run. 3, Verba's weakness souncs like he is vulnerable to an outside speed rush. However, this pass pro problem is a far more huge issue when your QB lacks mobility and sometimes seems so focused on using his rocket arm to keep patting the ball until he can laser it in. Given the higher mobility of a JP and him showing a good pocket awareness and presence I feel fine about an LT with Verba's limitations being entrusted with guarding JPs blindside. 4. TD does seem to be waiting for the LT market to settle out before he makes a deal. The huge contracts which have 8 0f the top 10 OL cap hits going to LTs and marginal or potential talents like JJ, Petitgout or Clifton means at some point the ability of teams to simply come up with the $38 million over 5 years Berba is reported to want i simply not going to happen. Can TD sign Verba if he is available for much less? Maybe but may be not. However, his rape accuation, troubles with another NFL team, the large number of huge commitments by teams to LTs means that we may have the leverage to get Verba for a team which came within a game of making the playoffs last year. We'll see but overall I still do not feel our LT starter is on our roster yet and I would love to have Verba if it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Oh, now that's not good news. Does not sound like TD's or RW's kind of guy. 351628[/snapback] Ross has an "Old School" frat house thing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Schobel had 5 tackles, a sack and a FF while going against Verba. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 But.....I've heard of him!!!! What's the hold up TD. 351674[/snapback] only took an hour and a half for the "i've heard of him" post gawd, i've created a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Verba wants a new 5-year $38 million contract, which is why the Browns may have signed Shelton. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindeale...6411.xml&coll=2 Doesn't look like anything special, although he gave up only 1.5 sacks last year. Here's his 2004 Scouting Report from Scouts Inc. Name: Ross Verba Position: Offensive Tackle Grade: 67 | Key 351613[/snapback] According to Stats Inc he actually gave up 4.5 sacks and for what it's worth Shelton earned a grade of 69 and am sure is earning far less than the $7 plus million that Verba is seeking. Just some food for thought for those that were against trading/ or signing LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Heard on Sirius that the Clowns have given Verba permission to seek a trade. Makes you wonder what the real story is with Shelton. Sounds like the Bills wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, but he's good enough to replace a starting LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Heard on Sirius that the Clowns have given Verba permission to seek a trade. Makes you wonder what the real story is with Shelton. Sounds like the Bills wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, but he's good enough to replace a starting LT? 352720[/snapback] And a decent starting LT at that. In fact other then the bad game against Schoebel he pretty much shut everyone else down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Heard on Sirius that the Clowns have given Verba permission to seek a trade. Makes you wonder what the real story is with Shelton. Sounds like the Bills wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, but he's good enough to replace a starting LT? 352720[/snapback] Given their track records, i'd trust the Bills brain trust a lot more than i'd trust the browns brain trust (yah i know they got a new GM and coach) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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