Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

You oughta show a little.more resect for the working man, chicken the guys who built your house, the guys who fix your car. 

 

Do you really want to tread on those guys? Because man, that's a battle guys like you will lose every time. 

I do respect them and don't tread on them.  I don't talk politics in the community unless I'm sure I'm with like minded people (with the exception of being very vocal about Covid). And I try to work with people who already know me and we have mutual respect.  Seems to work for everyone involved.

[BillStime]

4 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

No surprise that @BillStime can't discern between

 

Rich businessmen..

 

And rich POLITICIANS, north of Richmond. 

 

A useful idiot.

6 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Deep down you know the damage he’s caused to this country.

[Big Blitz]

Facts.  
 

We used to all agree when the economy was actually ***t.  
 

Everyone knows it is.  Everyone knows why.  
 

 

 

Dems:  “Everything is awesome.  And if it isn’t, it’s ULTRA MAGA’S fault.  
 

https://x.com/johntgrod/status/1690350145152684032?s=46&t=XnJPB0vm-gWk34ikDvnV1g

 

[BillsFanNC]

Soon.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

Rolling Stone trashing 'Rich Men North of Richmond' because it appeals to the Right goes so WRONG

 

 

Unless you live under a rock (or are smart enough to avoid social media altogether) you have heard about Oliver Anthony and his powerful debut, 'Rich Men North of Richmond,' which basically calls out the government and the elite for ignoring everyday Americans. This editor finds the line about a dollar being worth less and taxed more extraordinarily poignant.

 

The song is exceptional.

 

And the fact Rolling Stone is passive-aggressively thumbing its nose at it means it's even better than we realize. Look at this happy horse crap:

 

“Rich Men North of Richmond” is a passionate screed against the state of the country and right-wing influencers are very into it.

https://t.co/kmsYmDHX5w     — Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) August 11, 2023

 

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/08/13/rolling-stone-rich-men-north-of-richmond-n2386252

 

 

 

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[BillsFanNC]

 

[TSOL]

I think woke has woken up the real Americans 

[B-Man]

 

 

                               

 

 

 

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[BillsFanNC]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

                               

 

 

 

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81 million votes!!!

 

[BillsFanNC]

🎯 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Oliver Anthony Strikes A Chord Where The Right And Left Agree: Our Failed Elites.

 

It’s not that they refer to meat and cheese plates as charcuterie or that we have elites, Gabriel notes, but that the quality of our current crop has gotten so poor. “Elites of previous eras won world wars, established lasting peace, raised prosperity around the globe and transformed a backwater set of colonies into a global hegemon,” he adds. “Today’s crew can’t defeat third-world foes, police our cities, pay their bills, or keep the power on.”

 

I’d add they can’t even do corruption right. The elites used to be competent when it came to greasing their pockets, maintaining plausible deniability, and the illusion of playing by the same rules as everyone else.

 

Now, every representative who plays Wall Street is a wizard and the White House can wave away obvious influence-peddling schemes with “well, everyone does it.” Long gone is any sense of circumspection or noblesse oblige, which is something that people without special privileges tend to notice.

 

Our tastemakers in the media and D.C. can pretend that people’s natural responses to those changes is an act of faux outrage at those new truths. They can howl about how only they get to be the populists’ rebel musicians, speaking truth to power. Or they can acknowledge that they’re not very good at being elites and that failure invites such populist sentiments as those Anthony articulates.

 

Don’t expect them to, though.

 

 

https://thefederalist.com/2023/08/15/oliver-anthony-strikes-a-chord-where-the-right-and-left-agree-our-failed-elites/

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

On 8/14/2023 at 8:20 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

                               

 

 

 

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Other than what I see here, I have no idea who this guy is.

But his song list here tells a story of self pity:

 

All the Rich Men in DC have the Gold. Meanwhile, I Ain't Gotta a Dollar. I Want to Go Home to Virginia and need to Get Sober.

 

Sounds like a plan.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 8/14/2023 at 10:20 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

                               

 

 

 

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There's a shocker.  Rednecks like redneck music.  Probably marginally more interesting than singing about an unfaithful wife, a broken truck or a bad crop...

Edited August 16, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

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Oliver Anthony......

 

QANON!!!

 

[The Frankish Reich]

29 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

There's a shocker.  Rednecks like redneck music.  Probably marginally more interesting than singing about an unfaithful wife, a broken truck or a bad crop...

I like the cryin' in my beer old stuff. So maybe he's onto something. (I do appreciate the implied insight of Gotta Get Sober. Kind of the Margaritaville ending where it changes to "but I know, it's my own damn fault.")

What I can't stand is the new slick pop country that looks like one of those refrigerator magnet poem-making kits: Workin' With My Hands. Gettin' Dirty. Truck. Small Town. Date Night. Five O'Clock.

Rinse, Repeat.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

I don't understand the link some people here are making from this guy to Trump's popularity. It makes no sense whatsoever. Trump proved to be just like any other corporate politician. Are we still talking about him "draining the swamp" like he said he was going to do 7 years ago and never did?

 

Yes, I do have to say I am confused about his popularity given that and how a song like this would somehow be in support of him. 

 

I would also say if we're looking at it objectively...if someone who came off as "liberal" made a song like this, the other side would probably be saying something along the lines of "that's capitalism bro, get educated and get a better job that pays you more money instead of whining about how little you make". Basically anything anyone makes with a hint of politics will be slammed by the other side. 

 

As it usually is, the truth is somewhere in the middle. And a song like this should apply to both Democrats and Republicans...but you don't even have to go outside of this thread itself to see people saying they agree with this song while also at the same time simping out for a Democrat or Republican politician. 

 

For all the virtue signaling people are doing when pointing to a song like this...they're still doing and even promoting the SAME EXACT things and people that have led us here. 

 

Edited August 16, 2023 by HomeskillitMoorman

[julian]

This man is calling out government corruption from both parties and ridiculous taxation of the working man and yet there’s so many people on the left feeling the need to discredit him and the lived experience if millions of people.

 

 I don’t understand, If you’ve worked hard and have gotten yourself into a position of comfort and don’t experience what millions of others clearly do,  then that’s fantastic and I’m happy you’ve been financially successful but why are many unable to empathize with those working class people struggling.

 

 It’s bizarre to see so many come to the defense of rich élite politicians. Do you realize you can publicly agree there’s a problem at the top and not be a Trump supporter simultaneously.

 

 Tribalism is exactly where they want you, makes no difference to them which team you’re on.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

18 minutes ago, julian said:

This man is calling out government corruption from both parties and ridiculous taxation of the working man and yet there’s so many people on the left feeling the need to discredit him and the lived experience if millions of people.

 

 I don’t understand, If you’ve worked hard and have gotten yourself into a position of comfort and don’t experience what millions of others clearly do,  then that’s fantastic and I’m happy you’ve been financially successful but why are many unable to empathize with those working class people struggling.

 

 It’s bizarre to see so many come to the defense of rich élite politicians. Do you realize you can publicly agree there’s a problem at the top and not be a Trump supporter simultaneously.

 

 Tribalism is exactly where they want you, makes no difference to them which team you’re on.

For me personally it’s the opposite from the “left”. Actual true liberals (not the Democrat party) have had this message for the longest time. But when we say it, it’s socialism or we’re making excuses for people that aren’t working hard enough to make their situations better and make more money. 

 

But when someone who seems to be more like “their own” says it…it’s fighting for the working class. 
 

I think both are true. I think there are a lot of people on both or whatever side that don’t want to agree with something unless someone who seems like they’re in their tribe says it, that part we probably agree on. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by HomeskillitMoorman

[dickleyjones]

it's a good song and it's performed well. seems genuine and that goes a long way. the message resonates with most people to be sure.

 

leave it to the media/politik to turn it into right vs left when it's really regular people vs so called elites. that's what they do, it's worked for millennia, big surprise.

 

 

[julian]

15 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

For me personally it’s the opposite from the “left”. Actual true liberals (not the Democrat party) have had this message for the longest time. But when we say it, it’s socialism or we’re making excuses for people that aren’t working hard enough to make their situations better and make more money. 

 

But when someone who seems to be more like “their own” says it…it’s fighting for the working class. 
 

I think both are true. I think there are a lot of people on both or whatever side that don’t want to agree with something unless someone who seems like they’re in their tribe says it, that part we probably agree on. 

Of course people will always disagree as to how a problem is best solved, government hand outs vs lowered corporate tax blah blah blah. That’s how the political divide should work.

 

 These globalist governments have driven the wedge so deep that now there’s a portion of society (the fortunate segment well off enough to ignore rising taxes, fuel and grocery costs) who are willing take to the front lines for their tribe without critical thought or care.

 

 Fortunately the mass majority of people (80% ?) in the middle agree on more things than the government or media want you to know, but that 80% are truly becoming aware and that’s a good thing.

 

 I have hope.

 

 

Edited August 16, 2023 by julian

[HomeskillitMoorman]

8 minutes ago, julian said:

Of course people will always disagree as to how a problem is best solved, government hand outs vs lowered corporate tax blah blah blah. That’s how the political divide should work.

 

 These globalist governments have driven the wedge so deep that now there’s a portion of society (the fortunate segment well off enough to ignore rising taxes, fuel and grocery costs) who are willing take to the front lines for their tribe without critical thought or care.

 

 Fortunately the mass majority of people (80% ?) in the middle agree on more things than the government or media want you to know, but that 80% are truly becoming aware and that’s a good thing.

 

 I have hope.

 

 

I have hope that people are becoming more aware…I’m not sure I have the same hope that they’ll stop being as tribal to the side they’ve chosen though, if that makes sense. 
 

A lot of people, even amongst those 80% of moderates that probably do agree on a lot of things, are too far gone to their “side”. 

[julian]

2 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I have hope that people are becoming more aware…I’m not sure I have the same hope that they’ll stop being as tribal to the side they’ve chosen though, if that makes sense. 
 

A lot of people, even amongst those 80% of moderates that probably do agree on a lot of things, are too far gone to their “side”. 

You very well may be correct and I appreciate the your views.

[B-Man]

 

 

RON HART: ‘Rich Men North Of Richmond’ — America’s Cry For Help Against Washington’s Permanent Elite.

 

https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/16/hart-rich-men-north-of-richmond-oliver-anthony-jason-aldean/

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Its amazing how that works. when people actually listen for themselves, vs just taking some opinion in a rag as their own.  

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Yup.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 8/16/2023 at 12:43 PM, julian said:

This man is calling out government corruption from both parties and ridiculous taxation of the working man and yet there’s so many people on the left feeling the need to discredit him and the lived experience if millions of people.

 

 I don’t understand, If you’ve worked hard and have gotten yourself into a position of comfort and don’t experience what millions of others clearly do,  then that’s fantastic and I’m happy you’ve been financially successful but why are many unable to empathize with those working class people struggling.

 

 It’s bizarre to see so many come to the defense of rich élite politicians. Do you realize you can publicly agree there’s a problem at the top and not be a Trump supporter simultaneously.

 

 Tribalism is exactly where they want you, makes no difference to them which team you’re on.

Which side promotes higher tax rates for the ultra wealthy?  Safety net welfare programs for the poor?   Expanding health care to those who don't qualify for medicaid and have no insurance?  Limiting dark money and corporate contributions in elections?  A higher minimum wage?  

 

Sadly, the MAGA's, like this Richmond dude, bite the hand that would feed them...

[BillsFanNC]

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Clown world example #2,523,974.

 

I give you Quack MD.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

24 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

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Clown world example #2,523,974.

 

I give you Quack MD.

I suspect you don't give anyone anything.  Meanwhile, I won a nice Titleist bag for closest to the pin at a charity tourney yesterday😀

unfortunately, it has a large corporate logo on the ball pouch.  My wife is going to sew a Bills Logo over it.  Got 2 "Go Bills" shouts from Virginians while wearing my hat.  A good day....

Edited August 19, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Andy1]

I’m late to the party on this one. I just heard the song for first time today. Personally, I like the song representing the plight of struggling workers regardless of race or party. Corporate capitalism rules America. One party has preached trickle down economics for years. “America - love it or leave it”, etc. Labor unions have been broken. Pensions are no more, instead workers get 401ks. If jobs can be outsourced to other countries for cheaper cost, they will be. Corporations get bailouts but not regular people. The struggle of the working class crosses racial and party lines and could be a uniting force but politicians would rather keep America divided on social issues. If anyone doesn’t support the status quo you get labeled a commie. This is where we’re at. 

[Tommy Callahan]

It resonates with the working man like so many songs before 

 

Think ccr and silver spoon, mj and they don't care about us, and so on. 

[julian]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Which side promotes higher tax rates for the ultra wealthy?  Safety net welfare programs for the poor?   Expanding health care to those who don't qualify for medicaid and have no insurance?  Limiting dark money and corporate contributions in elections?  A higher minimum wage?  

 

Sadly, the MAGA's, like this Richmond dude, bite the hand that would feed them...

You still believe there’s 2 sides, you must look deeper and think more critically 

 

 Don’t allow yourself to wear the jersey of a political party and then shut your brain off and assume you’re on the “good guy” team.

 

 This division is intentional and calculated and designed to do exactly what it’s doing with you, making you believe if those people on the other team would just think and believe as your team does then all problems would be solved.

 

 I respect your opinion and hope you can someday see beyond the tribalism.

[US Egg]

That a folksy one man opinion song can rile up animosity shows the intolerance fervent amongst the offended.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, julian said:

You still believe there’s 2 sides, you must look deeper and think more critically 

 

 Don’t allow yourself to wear the jersey of a political party and then shut your brain off and assume you’re on the “good guy” team.

 

 This division is intentional and calculated and designed to do exactly what it’s doing with you, making you believe if those people on the other team would just think and believe as your team does then all problems would be solved.

 

 I respect your opinion and hope you can someday see beyond the tribalism.

I despise civil unrest from both sides. But there’s only one side calling for violent political revolt and actually acting on it. Who is the they that you believe are pulling the strings?  The “elite” and corporatists?  On a national level yes. But go to county functions or meetings of each side and witness the difference   And again, 1 side championed election finance reform. The other fought against it

Edited August 19, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[julian]

48 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I despise civil unrest from both sides. But there’s only one side calling for violent political revolt and actually acting on it. Who is the they that you believe are pulling the strings?  The “elite” and corporatists?  On a national level yes. But go to county functions or meetings of each side and witness the difference   And again, 1 side championed election finance reform. The other fought against it

Good luck and keep up the good fight.

[SCBills]

5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Which side promotes higher tax rates for the ultra wealthy?  Safety net welfare programs for the poor?   Expanding health care to those who don't qualify for medicaid and have no insurance?  Limiting dark money and corporate contributions in elections?  A higher minimum wage?  

 

Sadly, the MAGA's, like this Richmond dude, bite the hand that would feed them...

Believe it or not… many blue collar democrats have an issue with welfare abuse.

 

Do you think random iron worker in Pennsylvania that works long, grueling hours and comes home to a house he can barely afford is cool with people pretending to look for jobs, getting hired, getting fired etc., to game the system and use food stamps as a means of sustinence - as opposed to a helping hand to get back on their feet?

 

Because it seems like that line is the one that’s got y’all worked up.  “Obese milking welfare… taxes ought not pay for your bag of fudge rounds”. 
 

He’s right.  
 

Everything else about govt control, high taxes etc., is felt by everyone… except, apparently, modern day leftists that implicitly trust the govt. 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by SCBills

[Joe Ferguson forever]

27 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Believe it or not… many blue collar democrats have an issue with welfare abuse.

 

Do you think random iron worker in Pennsylvania that works long, grueling hours and comes home to a house he can barely afford is cool with people pretending to look for jobs, getting hired, getting fired etc., to game the system and use food stamps as a means of sustinence - as opposed to a helping hand to get back on their feet?

 

Because it seems like that line is the one that’s got y’all worked up.  “Obese milking welfare… taxes ought not pay for your bag of fudge rounds”. 
 

He’s right.  
 

Everything else about govt control, high taxes etc., is felt by everyone… except, apparently, modern day leftists that implicitly trust the govt. 

 

 

that isn't the line that gets me worked up.  worked up about a possibly sincere, but carefully manipulative song that has become a cult hit.  Cult hit's are fine but this particular cult...That said, I think welfare cheats should get caught and prosecuted.  I doubt my estimate of prevalence matches yours.   too lazy to look.  but yeah, I also have an issue with welfare abuse.  Cheating is cheating.  Stealing is stealing.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever