teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Just now, wnyguy said: I agree with you. No one forced anyone to enter the Capitol Building but those that did were prosecuted and sentenced for their involvement. This has nothing to do with who was walking around dropping pipe bombs in strategic areas at the time. also fair, but j6 wasn't a hoax, nor was it orchestrated by the dems. that's what i was calling the op out on.
wnyguy Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Just now, teef said: also fair, but j6 wasn't a hoax, nor was it orchestrated by the dems. that's what i was calling the op out on. Aaah gotcha.
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 minutes ago, Homelander said: The election was stolen - they even had a lot of theories, they said, but they didn't have the evidence. Pathetic. apparently there was enough to incite a riot.
BillsFanNC Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed.
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed. how am i using semantics? why is it a cop out? the group decided to be there and they were the ones who went into the capital building. were there democrats there helping them to walk inside? they didn't have to go in. they chose to. people inside were barricading themselves into rooms afraid for their well being. not a single person forced them to take any action at all. if they don't show up, there's no j6. unless the dems gathered all of those people there, walked them inside, and helped tear the place apart...it's not a hoax as you've called it all along.
Homelander Posted November 12 Posted November 12 7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed. Feelings.
BillsFanNC Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 Not to mention the most obvious of all J6 over arching happenings: The notion that a bunch of middle aged, unarmed morons were able to gain access to the Capitol building of the most powerful government on planet earth, then simply mill around inside for a bit, only to turn around all on their own in order to be home by dinner time. Insurrection!!! 😂
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Not to mention the most obvious of all J6 over arching happenings: The notion that a bunch of middle aged, unarmed morons were able to gain access to the Capitol building of the most powerful government on planet earth, then simply mill around inside for a bit, only to turn around all on their own in order to be home by dinner time. Insurrection!!! 😂 why go in at all? why were a bunch of morons smashing windows and doors? and milling around inside? every time with you. no common sense...just looking to place blame. i could see if this was a rare occasion for you, but it's on every single topic. j6 happened because of a number of easily manipulated d-bags felt they needed to take their government back. if they hadn't shown up to do so, or just quietly protested outside, none of this would have happened. but it did, so take the lump and just move on. once this country opens up, the epstein files are going to be a thing again. then what? how soon before you start calling it a democratic hoax even though trump himself showed us it wasn't.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 12 Posted November 12 32 minutes ago, teef said: why go in at all? why were a bunch of morons smashing windows and doors? and milling around inside? every time with you. no common sense...just looking to place blame. i could see if this was a rare occasion for you, but it's on every single topic. j6 happened because of a number of easily manipulated d-bags felt they needed to take their government back. if they hadn't shown up to do so, or just quietly protested outside, none of this would have happened. but it did, so take the lump and just move on. once this country opens up, the epstein files are going to be a thing again. then what? how soon before you start calling it a democratic hoax even though trump himself showed us it wasn't. Personally, I think it was symptomatic of a much bigger issue, and that’s a fundamental lack of trust in our elections/leadership. I believe that the events of 1/6 were set in place when leadership of the Democrats party referred to Trumps election as illegitimate, a Russian op, a coup and more. I believe that set the stage for all sorts of nefarious and shady dealings by the Dems looking to stifle the Trump agenda. I most definitely believe Trump supporters saw that whole 4 year debacle and took it personally. So, when Trump loses the election, he started on his version of stolen and illegitimate elections. I think some people believed it, it motivated them to action. I think some people probably didn’t believe the election was stolen yet figured if the Dems did it, might as well support the cause and turn out. Then of course, there were the hyper aggressive people in the crowd who like to see sh$t burn and things spiraled from there. I think people are manipulated into believing all sorts of things— illegitimate elections, stolen elections, classified document raids, “slippage”, and mostly that most political inquiries are completed to uncover the truth.
boyst Posted November 12 Posted November 12 (edited) 7 hours ago, teef said: ok. let's just do some common sense stuff here. why were people gathered in front of the capital building that day? Have you watched the whole speech by Trump? Have you watched the whole footage of the J6? Seems the stuff at the Capitol (btw it's not an A its an O) was interesting. A lot of cheerleading outside to get folks in and rallied by folks who didn't go in or make a move. 2 hours ago, teef said: so you think the election was stolen? you really don't think it was a giant tantrum by trump? this is what happened. a bunch of rednecks got together to protest a so called stolen election. they got there, got all riled up, and attacked the capital over a complete false pretense. no one forced them to be there. no one forced them to run into the capital and rip the place apart...all of this was done on their own free will. no dem told them to be there and do any of it. trump at any point could have calmed it down, but we all know he didn't want to. this wasn't a conspiracy...it was a giant tantrum because the president refused to admit he lost an election. if you want to feel the election was stolen, so be it. it still didn't mean j6 had to occur. the dems didn't put that together. that group of #######s did. Trump didn't call to have violence. This was hours later. The police were told to stand down, as was the guard, pelosi wanted the optics that it generated. It was all a politically staged event for both sides. Also, Jesus Christ bro. Capitol. Not capital. The election didn't make sense with the results. Statically it was like a .0001% of opportunity 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂 You're not allowed to tag people? That part is BS. Complete BS. It's your stupid "bump" to clog up the board that's the problem. But so is @Homelander and @Trump_is_Mentally_fit who should be outright banned. Neither contribute to football nor actually do anything more than troll. Edited November 12 by boyst
OrangeBills Posted November 12 Posted November 12 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂 15 million more than the great Obama!!
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 16 minutes ago, boyst said: Have you watched the whole speech by Trump? Have you watched the whole footage of the J6? Seems the stuff at the Capitol (btw it's not an A its an O) was interesting. A lot of cheerleading outside to get folks in and rallied by folks who didn't go in or make a move. Trump didn't call to have violence. This was hours later. The police were told to stand down, as was the guard, pelosi wanted the optics that it generated. It was all a politically staged event for both sides. Also, Jesus Christ bro. Capitol. Not capital. The election didn't make sense with the results. Statically it was like a .0001% of opportunity You're not allowed to tag people? That part is BS. Complete BS. It's your stupid "bump" to clog up the board that's the problem. But so is @Homelander and @Trump_is_Mentally_fit who should be outright banned. Neither contribute to football nor actually do anything more than troll. Hello idiot 1
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Personally, I think it was symptomatic of a much bigger issue, and that’s a fundamental lack of trust in our elections/leadership. I believe that the events of 1/6 were set in place when leadership of the Democrats party referred to Trumps election as illegitimate, a Russian op, a coup and more. I believe that set the stage for all sorts of nefarious and shady dealings by the Dems looking to stifle the Trump agenda. I most definitely believe Trump supporters saw that whole 4 year debacle and took it personally. So, when Trump loses the election, he started on his version of stolen and illegitimate elections. I think some people believed it, it motivated them to action. I think some people probably didn’t believe the election was stolen yet figured if the Dems did it, might as well support the cause and turn out. Then of course, there were the hyper aggressive people in the crowd who like to see sh$t burn and things spiraled from there. I think people are manipulated into believing all sorts of things— illegitimate elections, stolen elections, classified document raids, “slippage”, and mostly that most political inquiries are completed to uncover the truth. i agree with this 1000%. well put.
B-Man Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 hours ago, teef said: dude, you mention me in threads but don't tag me in because you don't want me to see them. you can't even answer the question of why the protesters were there. you're kind of a coward. all a hoax right? all another side's fault right? keep putting out conspiracies that you can't back up. A perfect reply to show why I stopped our conversation. In my post I explained that there was no reason for me, or anyone to reply to your insistent "why were they there ?" You come back with a childish "you can't even answer the question" Of course I could. You then refer to me as a 'coward' because I won't play patty-cakes with you. Lets just go back to where we were. I will post articles and opinion pieces filled with facts and links. and you will bury your head in the sand and regurgitate the same posts over and over. Added: Learn how to use capital letters, you are an adult. .
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 48 minutes ago, boyst said: Have you watched the whole speech by Trump? Have you watched the whole footage of the J6? Seems the stuff at the Capitol (btw it's not an A its an O) was interesting. A lot of cheerleading outside to get folks in and rallied by folks who didn't go in or make a move. Trump didn't call to have violence. This was hours later. The police were told to stand down, as was the guard, pelosi wanted the optics that it generated. It was all a politically staged event for both sides. Also, Jesus Christ bro. Capitol. Not capital. The election didn't make sense with the results. Statically it was like a .0001% of opportunity You're not allowed to tag people? That part is BS. Complete BS. It's your stupid "bump" to clog up the board that's the problem. But so is @Homelander and @Trump_is_Mentally_fit who should be outright banned. Neither contribute to football nor actually do anything more than troll. so what you're saying the dems got all the rednecks riled up so they would attack the capitOl? not for a single second do i think the election was rigged. we all know trump. he found out he lost and crashed out. his ego was hurt and he couldn't bring himself to handle it. he started looking for votes and riling up his supporters. i wonder how mike pence feels about the election being rigged. trump incited violence just by letting people think he was being robbed. whether or not you agree with the election results, this is what he did. he knew damn well what that crowd was there for and did nothing to stop it. and a political event staged by both sides? nope. one group of middle aged, cosplay, proud boys decided to go to the capitOl and start some *****. if they were caught up in a dem conspiracy, they're nothing but stupid pawns. play this how you want, if they weren't there that day, j6 doesn't happen. 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: A perfect reply to show why I stopped our conversation. In my post I explained that there was no reason for me, or anyone to reply to your insistent "why were they there ?" You come back with a childish "you can't even answer the question" Of course I could. You then refer to me as a 'coward' because I won't play patty-cakes with you. Lets just go back to where we were. I will post articles and opinion pieces filled with facts and links. and you will bury your head in the sand and regurgitate the same posts over and over. Added: Learn how to use capital letters, you are an adult. . you just didn't want to answer because you knew what i was getting at. you couldn't answer but other posters with different opinions than me did with no problem. you be an adult and actually stand up for self. post whatever you want. i'll wait for a few others to cover up and make excuses for every stupid thing this administration does. you're a rube.
boyst Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 minutes ago, teef said: so what you're saying the dems got all the rednecks riled up so they would attack the capitOl? not for a single second do i think the election was rigged. we all know trump. he found out he lost and crashed out. his ego was hurt and he couldn't bring himself to handle it. he started looking for votes and riling up his supporters. i wonder how mike pence feels about the election being rigged. trump incited violence just by letting people think he was being robbed. whether or not you agree with the election results, this is what he did. he knew damn well what that crowd was there for and did nothing to stop it. and a political event staged by both sides? nope. one group of middle aged, cosplay, proud boys decided to go to the capitOl and start some *****. if they were caught up in a dem conspiracy, they're nothing but stupid pawns. play this how you want, if they weren't there that day, j6 doesn't happen. you just didn't want to answer because you knew what i was getting at. you couldn't answer but other posters with different opinions than me did with no problem. you be an adult and actually stand up for self. post whatever you want. i'll wait for a few others to cover up and make excuses for every stupid thing this administration does. you're a rube. So what you're saying is the GOP got all the rednecks riled up? Or is it all of the GOP is a bunch of rednecks? Or is everyone that went on January 6th a gop? Or is it everybody on January 6th is a redneck? First off let's stop lumping everybody together... The rest is your perception, and that's okay. Some people just aren't as smart as other people. It just because you're still learning it's not a bad thing, keep it up buddy. I really hope that one day you can advance to the big boy table, because eventually you'll end up where the men sit. Because that's the point, disagree on perception and opinion all you want but then lumping everyone together is the biggest part of the problem. Maturity is to overcome that. I've seen you lump anybody here that's a republican in with some sort of maga Trump supporter who said January 6th was a great thing. I get it, you're outside your abilities or tapping the very best you can of intelligence but do some self-reflection to realize it's not an US versus them, you versus anyone. We're all the same. 1
B-Man Posted November 12 Posted November 12 Conspiracy theory. (The only one wrong is Harris had 75) 2
teef Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 minute ago, boyst said: So what you're saying is the GOP got all the rednecks riled up? Or is it all of the GOP is a bunch of rednecks? Or is everyone that went on January 6th a gop? Or is it everybody on January 6th is a redneck? First off let's stop lumping everybody together... The rest is your perception, and that's okay. Some people just aren't as smart as other people. It just because you're still learning it's not a bad thing, keep it up buddy. I really hope that one day you can advance to the big boy table, because eventually you'll end up where the men sit. Because that's the point, disagree on perception and opinion all you want but then lumping everyone together is the biggest part of the problem. Maturity is to overcome that. I've seen you lump anybody here that's a republican in with some sort of maga Trump supporter who said January 6th was a great thing. I get it, you're outside your abilities or tapping the very best you can of intelligence but do some self-reflection to realize it's not an US versus them, you versus anyone. We're all the same. i never mentioned the gop. i think specifically trump riled people up by telling them the election was stolen. that group at the capitOl was a bunch of redneck proud boys...not the gop. there is a certain group that blindly follows trump, (i get these people exist on both sides) and when he says dangerous things like an election was rigged, they react without thought or reason. show me once where i lumped one group with the other. and with the big boy intelligence *****...come on. we've all read some of your posts, i'd think strong and hard calling someone unintelligent just because they don't agree with your opinion. i have four year of college, four year of grad school, and another year of post grad under my belt. i know that high school degree makes you feel special, but no.
BillsFanNC Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 2002: The Carter/Baker commission: The best way to minimize voter fraud is to minimize mail in voting to only those qualified for absentee ballots, and the method in place should be rigorous. 2020: Ballots puked out everywhere. 43% of ballots were mailed in. The most ever in an election BY FAR. Conclusion: the 2020 election was the most secure election in US history. 😂 1 1 1
boyst Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 hour ago, teef said: i never mentioned the gop. i think specifically trump riled people up by telling them the election was stolen. that group at the capitOl was a bunch of redneck proud boys...not the gop. there is a certain group that blindly follows trump, (i get these people exist on both sides) and when he says dangerous things like an election was rigged, they react without thought or reason. show me once where i lumped one group with the other. and with the big boy intelligence *****...come on. we've all read some of your posts, i'd think strong and hard calling someone unintelligent just because they don't agree with your opinion. i have four year of college, four year of grad school, and another year of post grad under my belt. i know that high school degree makes you feel special, but no. Perhaps you've only seen the BBC News edit. I know many here see bbc and get excited because they know their browser history ... But it's also a news source out of the UK which edited the hell out of Trump's clip. The US media the same thing. Either way you're living in a paradigm, living in a lie, full of *****. I don't know which one but you can decide. Because you're saying this on one side of your mouth shaking your head yes while the other side of your mouth is going back, maybe to that BBC stuff, and shaking your head yes when Nancy pelosi, Chuck schumer, Maxine waters, many of them said we need to fight like hell, we need to punch them in the face, we need to be violent. So here you are upset that Trump riled up people that attacked the capitol. Your words. But when it comes time to call out violence against people who disagree with you, your liberal ideations, Che guevara, whatever commie bastard you're into ... Well I don't see you saying much? In fact I think I saw you say something about Charlie Kirk being only a YouTuber, and being fairly light on the whole stance there. So yeah, you're just a douchebag hypocrite.
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