Doc Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: More dead red than blue. sad but true...but go see "Doc" and he'll save you with hydoxychloroquine when you get sick. Who was wrong about Covid again? 15 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: No. just waaaaay too many... You danced like the monkey they know you are "doc." Tell me again how dangerous HCQ was/is. Tell me how Joke "shut down the virus," or even did the same as Trump, despite actual treatments and a vaccine. Yeah, that's right. Dance. Edited September 4, 2023 by Doc 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Stop lying to yourself and others. from your link. Oh, and learn to read your own links, idiot "Myocarditis and pericarditis have rarely been reported. When reported, the cases have especially been in adolescents and young adult males within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna)." You are a moron. also from your link: "Yes. CDC continues to recommend that everyone ages 6 months and older get vaccinated for COVID-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis." but there's a conspiracy to kill the stupid people. It's from the anti vaxers. You ask for numbers, I give you the webpage with all the numbers and then tell me the CDC says it is rare. Apparently asking for numbers and then ignoring them is your way.As for conspiracy to kill stupid people, there is now no evidence that vaccines do anything to protect people past 3 months, unless you can inform me of something new. Please answer one direct question, do you believe in people under 25 the lockdown saved more lives than it cost in just comparing the COVID deaths vs increase in suicides? If you can't answer that as a simple yes or no we can't have an honest discussion because you are not interested in facts but your ability to defend your behavior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: More dead red than blue. sad but true...but go see "Doc" and he'll save you with hydoxychloroquine when you get sick. Who was wrong about Covid again? uh, No. I prefer "America exceptionalism" to elitist. And guess what. Lot's of exceptional Americans are not white males and are immigrants. It's truly what makes our country GREAT! The rest, not so much. Can find average or below anywhere. More red then blue? Got a study on that? Hey. Psst. hydroxychlorquin DOES help sick people. Millions of them and won the noble prize. Guess whats been tested to be safe for decades while you highlight RARE cases of miocarditis from the vax. Just a couple young healthy men that could have EASILY beat covid...prob already had. But dont try a perfectly safe med...try a experiment. I dont think your making the point you think you are. No talk about excercise and diet. Cause being healthy wont help when your sick with a virus. stay inside! That was the liberals big plan. Hold your breath, dont move and stick this in your arm after you sign the waver! Thank god they contained the spread of covid. Thank you elitists for saving society by forcing people to get fired and not go out to those small buisnesses that are shut down. We are forever greatful. Everyone got it but at a slightly slower pace. God bless you. you brought race into a covid descussion out of the blue? Shocked. Ok well Next in line to thank you are the blacks who lives are forever better now that we have no DAs who prosecute and have less stores and buisnesses in their neighborhoods while being crush by the hyper inflation of everyday items. Its done so much for the community. So much "american exceptionalism" at work. Lol. And here you are. Defending it all over and over again. Edited September 4, 2023 by Buffarukus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html I know you are trying to feel better about the fact that you screwed over a crap load of children but please stop. The number of extra deaths from suicides alone by kids make the lockdown wrong, forget about the damage to learning and social development. Your lack of knowledge about the myocarditis when we are 2 full years after it first became known tells me you truly live in a state of denial. The only number I see on this page is the 19 in covid 19. Where are the others? I feel just fine. 36 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: More red then blue? Got a study on that? yes. The original paper is linked in the article: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths. T"he study looked at deaths in both Florida and Ohio during the first 22 months of the pandemic and found the overall excess death rate of Republican voters was 15% higher than that of Democrats. The gap widened further once COVID-19 vaccines were introduced." That's a huge study looking at 1/2 million deaths. What else explains the numbers? Genetics? Stupidity doesn't cause susceptibilty. The actions of stupid people do. That's enough evidence of vax effectiveness for me but there are others. Do your own research and find out. 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: You ask for numbers, I give you the webpage with all the numbers and then tell me the CDC says it is rare. Apparently asking for numbers and then ignoring them is your way.As for conspiracy to kill stupid people, there is now no evidence that vaccines do anything to protect people past 3 months, unless you can inform me of something new. Please answer one direct question, do you believe in people under 25 the lockdown saved more lives than it cost in just comparing the COVID deaths vs increase in suicides? If you can't answer that as a simple yes or no we can't have an honest discussion because you are not interested in facts but your ability to defend your behavior there's no numbers here x 19. Where are they? Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: Hey. Psst. hydroxychlorquin DOES help sick people. Millions of them and won the noble prize. Really. Link? 1 hour ago, Doc said: Tell me again how dangerous HCQ was/is. I'll tell you how it doesn't work. Doubling down on ignorance. SMH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: there is now no evidence that vaccines do anything to protect people past 3 months, unless you can inform me of something new At least 3 months....many people died over a 3 month period during peak transmission. I think they'd have been better off and maybe be alive had they taken the vax. Plenty of studies here for your perusal and hopefully your edumacation...Oh, and more dead reds than blues in Ohio and Fla. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison#:~:text=It found bivalent vaccines from,24.9% for the monovalent vaccine. Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: At least 3 months....people died over a 3 month period during peak transmission. I think they'd have been better off and maybe be alive had they taken the vax. Plenty of studies here for your perusal and hopefully your edumacation...Oh, and more dear red than blue in Ohio and Fla. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison#:~:text=It found bivalent vaccines from,24.9% for the monovalent vaccine. You New Yorkers seem quite proud of yourself for killing as many people as fast a possible in 2020. Of course we had more die from COVID since we have have a 10 fold population of high risk people since liberals killed so many off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Orlando Tim said: You New Yorkers seem quite proud of yourself for killing as many people as fast a possible in 2020. Of course we had more die from COVID since we have have a 10 fold population of high risk people since liberals killed so many off. I'm a Virginian. It's about Red deaths versus blue in Fla and Ohio, looking at over 1/2 million deaths. Dumb,arrogant and high risk is a bad combo. The study wasn't comparing NY (or Va, for that matter) to Fla. dummy Oh, and where are the numbers in your link that you were so outraged I missed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Let's take a wild guess...Quack MD is on board with restraining citizens and force masking them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Let's take a wild guess...Quack MD is on board with restraining citizens and force masking them? Nope. Let evolution take its course. Just stay the f away from me. You don't frequent Duke Gardens do you? Please wear a hat with a 19 on it. or one that says "Molecular Biologist". Wait, that won't work at Duke...19 it is. I'm betting Asheville is safe. Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 ⬆️ Quack, MD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ Quack, MD Didn't you mention breweries in Asheville while staying in posh Hendersonville? I'll just avoid the breweries...winning! Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Hero to those who practice quackery... Like Quack MD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Stop lying to yourself and others. from your link. Oh, and learn to read your own links, idiot "Myocarditis and pericarditis have rarely been reported. When reported, the cases have especially been in adolescents and young adult males within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna)." You are a moron. also from your link: "Yes. CDC continues to recommend that everyone ages 6 months and older get vaccinated for COVID-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis." but there's a conspiracy to kill the stupid people. It's from the anti vaxers. 5th, More people died in Red states than blue. Lots more....Evolution in real time. It's marginally more ethical than eugenics but not as effective. The nazis did forced sterilization. Perhaps trump will if he gets in If the vaccine does not prevent transmission, there is no reason to mandate, especially in a free country…No problem with people taking it to protect themselves, but “one size does not fit all”…👍 And it was clear, after people realized the vaccine did not stop the spread, the government (with funding from Pharmaceutical companies) tried to force everyone to get it…People won’t go along so easily the next time, knowing what we know now…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 How much money did the political elite profit off of covid? And you expect them to be genuine with the information provided.......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If the vaccine does not prevent transmission, there is no reason to mandate, especially in a free country…No problem with people taking it to protect themselves, but “one size does not fit all”…👍 And it was clear, after people realized the vaccine did not stop the spread, the government (with funding from Pharmaceutical companies) tried to force everyone to get it…People won’t go along so easily the next time, knowing what we know now…👍 Totally disregarding natural immunity. Forcing people to not have a right to sue. No idea about mutations. They didnt even test for transmission but declared it to be so. These idiots danced with the almighty freedom to take masks off...for a week, then ran back for the next round of the no mask ok. Time. Time is what stopped covid. They slowly saw every single person around them get covid and only then gave up the "killing your grandma routine". As the flock wandered sheep have no other option but go with the majority who realized it was a scam. But some are still bahhhing as if it did anything other then make rich people richer and poor suffer through the worst inflation since the depression. Id hate to know i caused all this. So id be in denial as well. Edited September 4, 2023 by Buffarukus 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: there is no reason to mandate Well, Aristocrat's ICU nurse wife and me, before I retired, would argue that overwhelmed health systems and ICU's are a good reason. Like having to work 5 days after a positive test, around critically ill patients 26 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: How much money did the political elite profit off of covid? And you expect them to be genuine with the information provided.......... Yes, we're all after your money...It's a conspiracy. But you can trust trump. Can I interest you in some NFT's? I will say that caring for uninsured , unvaxed patients cost the country a fortune... Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Well, Aristocrats wife and me, before I retired would argue that overwhelmed health systems and ICU's are a good reason. Like having to work 5 days after a positive test, around critically ill patients They were overwhelmed because the healthcare industry made it that way, starting 2 generations ago, to make money…As population grew, they continued to take away hospital beds because it was more profitable… Gee imagine that- creating the problem so that they can make money off of a solution… Homey don’t play that…😉 Edited September 4, 2023 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: They were overwhelmed because the healthcare industry made it that way, starting 2 generations ago, to make money… Gee imagine that- creating a problem so that they can make money off of a solution… Homey don’t play that…😉 You are a fool. We didn't need Covid to make money. Plenty of fat, sick, lazy, smoking people to see before covid. Smoking is especially good for biz... actually most doctors lost money during covid because we advised non sick patients to stay home and also not have preventive testing. But we did that for the money😅 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7867211/#:~:text=Doctors who depend on fee,models have been relatively unscathed. Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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