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5 hours ago, T master said:

 

Glad to see Brown back where he belongs but i think (do you) that Cook is behind Moss only because he is a rookie & may need more time to prove him self as far as learning the offense and will eventually replace Moss as that guy ?

 

I think the FB should possibly be the 3rd RB up he's bigger & can probably run with more power than Moss i'm just not a fan of him never have been & thought the pick could have been same position better player say a A.J. Dillon type but that's just me i guess .

Definitely just you.  
Moss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gilliam

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2 hours ago, SCBills said:


Care to elaborate?

 

We haven’t even seen this OL, under Kromer, yet.  
 

Kromer is one of the best in the game. 
 

Dawkins is above average.  Morse is above average.  Saffold is a solid vet. Bates/Brown are question marks with high ceilings.  Quessenberry is a solid vet if we need to go to him. 
 

We’ll see what happens tomorrow night, but when we look around the league.. I’m not sure what people are expecting us to have at OL.  We have an elite coach, a couple above average players, a couple solid vets and two young/high ceiling guys.  After the top 6 it gets dicey… as it does for everybody in the NFL. 

Having a quarterback that can avoid the pressure and is a significant threat to run (hopefully fewer designed runs) means you can live with a good not great line and spend money in other places.

 

as an example Dak has always had a great line until this year and the Cowboys spent heavily on it. However Dak needed that. I suspect the Cowboys and Dak will struggle this year

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7 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Sean McDermott it appears has not actually committed to who is starting on the opposite side of Jackson.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/07/bills-not-naming-a-starting-cb-in-place-of-tredavious-white/

 

W will find out on Thursday it appears.

 

Elam is starting tomorrow night.  After that, it's whoever plays best.

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13 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Exactly what I said… They aren’t going to activate 4 RBs(Singletary, Moss, Cook, and Jones)…. One of them will be inactive IMO.

Tragic is a big stretch… but I honestly have no idea what he’s thinking with some of these early round picks. Way too many at RB and just a poor record with 2nd round picks to this point. 

I think it’s fair to say Beane has continually wasted high draft picks, if we were evaluating Bellicheck for these draft picks we’d be laughing. He got Allen, awesome, and therefore a lot is covered up.  But Edmunds is marginal, Ford is trash, DS is still trying to make a role for himself, Oliver is solid, hasn’t come close to top 10 status, AJE still a borderline NFL player, Moss still trying to find something, Groot was solid, actually have hope for him, Boogie.. why?, Brown looks like a good hit.  This year is way to early to judge, but Elam has been equaled or out played by his 6th round competition, Cook just makes no sense as a second round pick, don’t get me started on the wasted 3rd round pick… step back and look at it objectively, Beane has really sucked on early picks outside of Allen.  Let’s be fair, he got the right one, but he also didn’t have his pick of the litter and has shown a propensity to make a move to not get shut out on a position of need.   If the Browns had taken Allen, then what?  Anyway, his track record in the draft is worthy of question.

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27 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I think it’s fair to say Beane has continually wasted high draft picks, if we were evaluating Bellicheck for these draft picks we’d be laughing. He got Allen, awesome, and therefore a lot is covered up.  But Edmunds is marginal, Ford is trash, DS is still trying to make a role for himself, Oliver is solid, hasn’t come close to top 10 status, AJE still a borderline NFL player, Moss still trying to find something, Groot was solid, actually have hope for him, Boogie.. why?, Brown looks like a good hit.  This year is way to early to judge, but Elam has been equaled or out played by his 6th round competition, Cook just makes no sense as a second round pick, don’t get me started on the wasted 3rd round pick… step back and look at it objectively, Beane has really sucked on early picks outside of Allen.  Let’s be fair, he got the right one, but he also didn’t have his pick of the litter and has shown a propensity to make a move to not get shut out on a position of need.   If the Browns had taken Allen, then what?  Anyway, his track record in the draft is worthy of question.


The draft is a crapshoot and 35/39 of Beane’s picks are still in the NFL and I count 14 starters most for a Super Bowl favorite roster… 

 

The arm chair GMs out there criticizing Beane have absolutely no clue about football, zero. 

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16 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


The draft is a crapshoot and 35/39 of Beane’s picks are still in the NFL and I count 14 starters most for a Super Bowl favorite roster… 

 

The arm chair GMs out there criticizing Beane have absolutely no clue about football, zero. 


I called into MTC yesterday on NFLR, and they spoke to this point on how many are still in the league.  A small group of people think they are smarter than real GM’s, but look at track records.  BB is a horrible GM, but an excellent coach in the past.  Beane and McD are a great combo.  They have similar vision, are aligned up and down the line, and they have developed along with the assistants Josh and others.  The fact that we have that many players who develop over three years into starters is impressive.

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On 9/3/2022 at 3:42 PM, Sierra Foothills said:

Yolo posted in another thread. I thought it deserved its own topic.

 

You can't start another thread....your a** will be kicked up one side and down the other. We CAN NOT deal with additional lines of text to scroll through

Ya dig?

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4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

I think it’s fair to say Beane has continually wasted high draft picks, if we were evaluating Bellicheck for these draft picks we’d be laughing. He got Allen, awesome, and therefore a lot is covered up.  But Edmunds is marginal, Ford is trash, DS is still trying to make a role for himself, Oliver is solid, hasn’t come close to top 10 status, AJE still a borderline NFL player, Moss still trying to find something, Groot was solid, actually have hope for him, Boogie.. why?, Brown looks like a good hit.  This year is way to early to judge, but Elam has been equaled or out played by his 6th round competition, Cook just makes no sense as a second round pick, don’t get me started on the wasted 3rd round pick… step back and look at it objectively, Beane has really sucked on early picks outside of Allen.  Let’s be fair, he got the right one, but he also didn’t have his pick of the litter and has shown a propensity to make a move to not get shut out on a position of need.   If the Browns had taken Allen, then what?  Anyway, his track record in the draft is worthy of question.

 

Allen is a huge hit, Ed Oliver was one of the best DTs in football last year and Dawson Knox is probably the second most talented young tight end in the game after Kyle Pitts. There is a point about whether he has hit on enough stars on days 1 and 2, I think that is fair, but Oliver and Knox taking the steps they took in year 3 kind of negates that argument too. I have made my point about positional value of three day two running backs elsewhere but I do that is worthy of discussion. 

 

You also have to counter balance that with the fact that he has been arguably the best day 3 of the draft GM in football. 2018 brought Taron Johnson a top 5 nickel, Siran Neal the best gunner in football and Wyatt Teller who has emerged as an all pro guard (though sadly not here). 2019 brought Jaquan Johnson who does nothing but make plays every time he steps on the field. 2020 brought Gabe Davis and Dane Jackson who are now established starters and Tyler Bass and then this past draft, while I agree it's early, brought Khalil Shakir and Christian Benford who have had super impressive summers. 

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Allen is a huge hit, Ed Oliver was one of the best DTs in football last year and Dawson Knox is probably the second most talented young tight end in the game after Kyle Pitts. There is a point about whether he has hit on enough stars on days 1 and 2, I think that is fair, but Oliver and Knox taking the steps they took in year 3 kind of negates that argument too. I have made my point about positional value of three day two running backs elsewhere but I do that is worthy of discussion. 

 

You also have to counter balance that with the fact that he has been arguably the best day 3 of the draft GM in football. 2018 brought Taron Johnson a top 5 nickel, Siran Neal the best gunner in football and Wyatt Teller who has emerged as an all pro guard (though sadly not here). 2019 brought Jaquan Johnson who does nothing but make plays every time he steps on the field. 2020 brought Gabe Davis and Dane Jackson who are now established starters and Tyler Bass and then this past draft, while I agree it's early, brought Khalil Shakir and Christian Benford who have had super impressive summers. 


I love your optimistic view, but there’s absolutely nobody outside of Buffalo that would put Oliver or Knox in the conversation as best or most talented at their positions.  That’s just not true.  Knox is a good athlete and one of my favorite players, but you would have to Cherry pick the ***** out of criteria to have him top 2 at anything. 
 

The late round drafting has been pretty impressive, which makes it all the more puzzling why he can’t seem to hit on the better prospects.  
 

God knows it’s so much better than we had in the past.  I do love the logic of “14 Starters” came from Beane’s drafts, it’s a nice stat.  The reality is 7-8 of them are starters by default, not because they are true NFL starters, but nonetheless, at least they are on an NFL roster and decent.

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16 minutes ago, DCofNC said:


I love your optimistic view, but there’s absolutely nobody outside of Buffalo that would put Oliver or Knox in the conversation as best or most talented at their positions.  That’s just not true.  Knox is a good athlete and one of my favorite players, but you would have to Cherry pick the ***** out of criteria to have him top 2 at anything. 
 

The late round drafting has been pretty impressive, which makes it all the more puzzling why he can’t seem to hit on the better prospects.  
 

God knows it’s so much better than we had in the past.  I do love the logic of “14 Starters” came from Beane’s drafts, it’s a nice stat.  The reality is 7-8 of them are starters by default, not because they are true NFL starters, but nonetheless, at least they are on an NFL roster and decent.

 

I am afraid you are just wrong. I am the opposite of a homer. But Oliver last year was a top 5 D tackle and Knox talent wise I think is as good as anyone not name Pitts and if he had hit the market next April you'd have possibly seen him become the best paid tight end in football. 

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2 hours ago, DCofNC said:


I love your optimistic view, but there’s absolutely nobody outside of Buffalo that would put Oliver or Knox in the conversation as best or most talented at their positions.  That’s just not true.  Knox is a good athlete and one of my favorite players, but you would have to Cherry pick the ***** out of criteria to have him top 2 at anything. 
 

The late round drafting has been pretty impressive, which makes it all the more puzzling why he can’t seem to hit on the better prospects.  
 

God knows it’s so much better than we had in the past.  I do love the logic of “14 Starters” came from Beane’s drafts, it’s a nice stat.  The reality is 7-8 of them are starters by default, not because they are true NFL starters, but nonetheless, at least they are on an NFL roster and decent.

 

Just out of curiosity, name these "7-8" players who are "starters by default."

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