Sierra Foothills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I mean seriously do you own a mirror? We’re all supposed to defer to you because you read a few articles but you can’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt about what was said in a press conference? It’s not as if the recording is hard to find. But you’re not being self righteous? Geez dude. And the stones question came from me as part of a post to which you responded, but only to a different portion. If on a computer, use the mouse to scroll up a bit, if on an iPad, use your finger. I don't understand. Are you demanding that I watch/listen to the press conferences and judge the questions that were asked? Is that what you're asking me to do? Is there something wrong with me judging a writer by what they write? And I'm not asking anyone to "defer to me" so I'm not sure what your problem is. As I've stated numerous times to you and others, we have a difference of opinion. I can accept yours, why can't you accept mine? As for the "stones" issue, I guess you're referring to my statement that the team should have left no stone unturned (performed greater due diligence). I already gave examples but again... staying in contact with plaintiff's attorney and asking to speak with the plaintiff... exploring ways to distance Araiza from the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: I don't understand. Are you demanding that I watch/listen to the press conferences and judge the questions that were asked? Is that what you're asking me to do? Is there something wrong with me judging a writer by what they write? And I'm not asking anyone to "defer to me" so I'm not sure what your problem is. As I've stated numerous times to you and others, we have a difference of opinion. I can accept yours, why can't you accept mine? As for the "stones" issue, I guess you're referring to my statement that the team should have left no stone unturned (performed greater due diligence). I already gave examples but again... staying in contact with plaintiff's attorney and asking to speak with the plaintiff... exploring ways to distance Araiza from the team. Wrt to your first two lines I have no demand for you to anything. I simply pointed out the unprofessional nature of reporters in the presser. You not watching doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some may have written viable articles but ignoring that does not make the unprofessionalism disappear. A difference of opinion is one thing. You making statements that are factually incorrect and me pointing that out does not constitute a difference of opinion. How do you know what ways the team explored or did not explore to distance themselves from Araiza. You literally have no idea what they did or did not do. You haven’t even claimed to know and yet you still stand in judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Wrt to your first two lines I have no demand for you to anything. I simply pointed out the unprofessional nature of reporters in the presser. You not watching doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some may have written viable articles but ignoring that does not make the unprofessionalism disappear. A difference of opinion is one thing. You making statements that are factually incorrect and me pointing that out does not constitute a difference of opinion. How do you know what ways the team explored or did not explore to distance themselves from Araiza. You literally have no idea what they did or did not do. You haven’t even claimed to know and yet you still stand in judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) I'm not browsing all 45 pages of this thread, so my apologies if I repeat others... But that Olean Times Herald/Chuck Pollock piece https://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/bills/araiza-scandal-reflects-badly-on-bills-hierarchy/article_db4362ab-9942-5f0c-8e6d-58ec4e57a544.html is just a cheap mafioso media hit job. I once really respected Chuck's work. Edited August 31, 2022 by boater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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