Orlando Tim Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 4/16/2024 at 2:28 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Good question that remains largely unanswered after 230 some years. When it was written it meant people here legally. If legally in country you get protected by Constitution, if you are a foreign national who is here without permission you do not get protections. There is not a question of what they meant only what dishonest politicians/judges do. The system is phenomenal until you have people believing they are moral by allowing criminals into their community 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 17 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: When it was written it meant people here legally Well, there really was no such thing as people here illegally at the time, since the USA was birthed in a time of open borders. So there is that ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Well, there really was no such thing as people here illegally at the time, since the USA was birthed in a time of open borders. So there is that ... Back to square one. I dont remember the immigrants over the centuries that are American citizens, Lining up to demand services from the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 New York couldn't even get weed right. https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-illegal-weed-shops-marijuana-kathy-hochul-9f68cbf6?mod=opinion_lead_pos3 Boosters of legal marijuana promised a utopia like something from the sunniest dreams of the 1960s: responsible use, oodles of tax revenue, and upstanding entrepreneurs instead of lawbreaking dealers. But in New York less than two years later, a thicket of illegal stores is crowding out licensees in a genuine fiasco. I live in Colorado. Woo-hoo, first in the nation to legalize weed! I didn't like it when it happened, not because I'm not in favor of legalization (I am) but because I didn't want Colorado to become an even bigger magnet for weed tourism, etc. And guess what happened when Obama said "go ahead?" A bunch of weed stores opened. A bunch of greenhouses growing weed for them started up. A bunch of ancillary services joined them. I recall sitting at a coffee shop overhearing a conversation between some kind of investor group and a guy who was starting up a weed packaging business. (Real quote: "We want the customer to be able to open the package and get that blast of fresh weed, kind of like opening a potato chip bag"). And the black market essentially disappeared. Licensed, generally well-regulated, not an anything goes third worldly bunch of fly-by-night outfits. New York had the model. Just copy Colorado! And still they got it horribly wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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