Everything Joe Biden--Gaffes, Miscues, Touching, Songs

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 6/6/2020 at 9:26 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I think it was pretty obvious I was struggling with Biden’s guilt.  In a few short paragraphs I went from 60-40, to 70-30, to 85-15.   Part of that was my understanding of the way the political process works, part of it was the way the media works, part of it was designed to aggravate you.  

Let’s see how emotionally honest you are.

 

Your fave has a documented history of groping women and children.  He’s been accused of same by those women.   Is this true?
 

Your fave has acknowledged he made women uncomfortable, explaining that he’s just who he is, that he didn’t mean to make women and children uncomfortable, that they misunderstood the way he interacted.  Is this true?  
 

Biden supported the disembowelment of Brett Kavanaugh based on testimony of women with no evidence at all.  His position was that all women should be believed, and that Kavanaugh should be disqualified from consideration based on the allegations.  Is this true?
 

I believe you probably supported the movement to destroy Kavanaugh.  Apologies if I am wrong.  Is this true?  
 

I made my assessment of Biden based on his past history, the multitude of incidents of odd behavior, his commentary that he was simply misunderstood, the history of powerful men getting away with using their power to do what they want, the multiple videos of Joe Biden attempting to intimidate voters, and the perspective Biden had that all woman should be believed.  I made my assessment based on the established rules of dems who prosecuted the Kavanaugh case, in the spirit of the #metoo movement and the rules established.  Finally, when I hear stories from the Senate in those days, of Senators that women knew they best avoid on elevators, in meeting rooms and dark alleys...and know that your hero Joe did not speak up, step up, nor address in any way shape or form, I realized he was complicit in the process.  
 

Yes, I’m still at 85-15 in a mostly unscientific assessment.  Maybe 72-25.   What pushed me that way was the phone call to Larry King, made by her mother, and the court documents that showed she was struggling with the power dynamic in her interaction at work.  What are your thoughts on these subjects? 
 

But go ahead Transpy, have your sliding emotional scale of indignation. Rationalize your support  for the guy with a documented history of racist comments, fondling women, attempting to intimidate, being chief towel snapper of the old boys  network that has dominated Washington in the 5 decades he’s been there.  Maybe we’ll get lucky and his deteriorating mental capacity 

will make him a better human being than he’s been the first 40 years in office.  

 

You’re a real agent of change.  
 

Oh, and btw, this issue isn’t over yet.  The real fun is just beginning. 

 

 

@transplantbillsfani would be remiss if i did not call you out on this.  

 

You posted and called me out, asked a series of questions.  I replied honestly and asked a few questions of my own.  You replied with a smiley face emoji, but included no reply.  

 

This is not the way to reach understanding.  My assumption is you've opted to put aside your normal moral indignation and vote outside your conscience.  That's your right, but you really shouldn't ask questions of people willing to engage if you are not.  It makes you appear shallow.

[B-Man]

UH OH! Joe Biden’s getting hammered by the Left over campaign’s ‘defund the police’ statement (but he left himself some wiggle room)

 

 

[Joe Miner]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

UH OH! Joe Biden’s getting hammered by the Left over campaign’s ‘defund the police’ statement (but he left himself some wiggle room)

 

 

 

Wait until his first interview where he has to try to repeat what he's told his answer is on this subject.

 

That should be amazing.

[transplantbillsfan]

14 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I think it was pretty obvious I was struggling with Biden’s guilt.  In a few short paragraphs I went from 60-40, to 70-30, to 85-15.   Part of that was my understanding of the way the political process works, part of it was the way the media works, part of it was designed to aggravate you.  

Let’s see how emotionally honest you are.

 

Your fave has a documented history of groping women and children.  He’s been accused of same by those women.   Is this true?
 

Your fave has acknowledged he made women uncomfortable, explaining that he’s just who he is, that he didn’t mean to make women and children uncomfortable, that they misunderstood the way he interacted.  Is this true?  
 

Biden supported the disembowelment of Brett Kavanaugh based on testimony of women with no evidence at all.  His position was that all women should be believed, and that Kavanaugh should be disqualified from consideration based on the allegations.  Is this true?
 

I believe you probably supported the movement to destroy Kavanaugh.  Apologies if I am wrong.  Is this true?  
 

I made my assessment of Biden based on his past history, the multitude of incidents of odd behavior, his commentary that he was simply misunderstood, the history of powerful men getting away with using their power to do what they want, the multiple videos of Joe Biden attempting to intimidate voters, and the perspective Biden had that all woman should be believed.  I made my assessment based on the established rules of dems who prosecuted the Kavanaugh case, in the spirit of the #metoo movement and the rules established.  Finally, when I hear stories from the Senate in those days, of Senators that women knew they best avoid on elevators, in meeting rooms and dark alleys...and know that your hero Joe did not speak up, step up, nor address in any way shape or form, I realized he was complicit in the process.  
 

Yes, I’m still at 85-15 in a mostly unscientific assessment.  Maybe 72-25.   What pushed me that way was the phone call to Larry King, made by her mother, and the court documents that showed she was struggling with the power dynamic in her interaction at work.  What are your thoughts on these subjects? 
 

But go ahead Transpy, have your sliding emotional scale of indignation. Rationalize your support  for the guy with a documented history of racist comments, fondling women, attempting to intimidate, being chief towel snapper of the old boys  network that has dominated Washington in the 5 decades he’s been there.  Maybe we’ll get lucky and his deteriorating mental capacity 

will make him a better human being than he’s been the first 40 years in office.  

 

You’re a real agent of change.  
 

Oh, and btw, this issue isn’t over yet.  The real fun is just beginning. 

 

I will respond, though I think it's pointless.

 

I have 2 Uncles like Biden. My sisters would vouch for that and my older sister actually spoke with them about it. My Uncles are both good people but could get a little "handsy," in a manner of speaking. After my sister spoke with them, it never happened again.

 

And while I can't 100% say for sure because I don't spend every moment with them--especially now living 6,000 miles away--I'm comfortable saying neither have raped or sexually molested anyone by reaching under their skirt.

 

My Dad hugs and kisses people affectionately, usually on the cheek occasionally on the lips.

 

Here in Hawai'i part of the culture is literally hugging and kissing on the cheek.

 

Biden is a physically affectionate guy. And it's with men AND women. That's the crux of why I mostly dismiss it. 

 

I think you and your ilk are trying to build up an argument of logic against Biden instead of considering just what/who he is.

 

That's why I largely dismiss it. 

 

Intentions do matter.

 

And I realize that last statement is what you'll latch onto. 

 

But Donald Trump has the mentality of one who would then actually be guilty of any of the 26 sexual assaults he's been accused of. 

 

I have a lot more to say about the subject, but frankly don't think this message board is worth the effort--not an accusation of you in particular as I find you pleasant enough to interact with.

 

The subject not an easy one.

[Teddy KGB]

4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I will respond, though I think it's pointless.

 

I have 2 Uncles like Biden. My sisters would vouch for that and my older sister actually spoke with them about it. My Uncles are both good people but could get a little "handsy," in a manner of speaking. After my sister spoke with them, it never happened again.

 

And while I can't 100% say for sure because I don't spend every moment with them--especially now living 6,000 miles away--I'm comfortable saying neither have raped or sexually molested anyone by reaching under their skirt.

 

My Dad hugs and kisses people affectionately, usually on the cheek occasionally on the lips.

 

Here in Hawai'i part of the culture is literally hugging and kissing on the cheek.

 

Biden is a physically affectionate guy. And it's with men AND women. That's the crux of why I mostly dismiss it. 

 

I think you and your ilk are trying to build up an argument of logic against Biden instead of considering just what/who he is.

 

That's why I largely dismiss it. 

 

Intentions do matter.

 

And I realize that last statement is what you'll latch onto. 

 

But Donald Trump has the mentality of one who would then actually be guilty of any of the 26 sexual assaults he's been accused of. 

 

I have a lot more to say about the subject, but frankly don't think this message board is worth the effort--not an accusation of you in particular as I find you pleasant enough to interact with.

 

The subject not an easy one.

holy ???.    My mans putting himself in a pretzel to endorse rape. 
 

it’s just like the tyrod taylor pretzel after a 56 yard passing day.   
 

As Kenny Rogers would say.   You gonna know when to fold em.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

14 hours ago, B-Man said:

UH OH! Joe Biden’s getting hammered by the Left over campaign’s ‘defund the police’ statement (but he left himself some wiggle room)

 

 

....Breaking....Biden campaign rally song:
 

 

Old VP, the subject

of leftist fantasies

He wants it so badly 

He’s fighting brain disease
Inside him, mind slipping
He thinks it’s ‘93
World burning, a chance now 

To move past Tara Reade

 

Defund em

Defund em

Defund the damn police

Defund em

Defund em

Defund the damn police

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I will respond, though I think it's pointless.

 

I have 2 Uncles like Biden. My sisters would vouch for that and my older sister actually spoke with them about it. My Uncles are both good people but could get a little "handsy," in a manner of speaking. After my sister spoke with them, it never happened again.

 

And while I can't 100% say for sure because I don't spend every moment with them--especially now living 6,000 miles away--I'm comfortable saying neither have raped or sexually molested anyone by reaching under their skirt.

 

My Dad hugs and kisses people affectionately, usually on the cheek occasionally on the lips.

 

Here in Hawai'i part of the culture is literally hugging and kissing on the cheek.

 

Biden is a physically affectionate guy. And it's with men AND women. That's the crux of why I mostly dismiss it. 

 

I think you and your ilk are trying to build up an argument of logic against Biden instead of considering just what/who he is.

 

That's why I largely dismiss it. 

 

Intentions do matter.

 

And I realize that last statement is what you'll latch onto. 

 

But Donald Trump has the mentality of one who would then actually be guilty of any of the 26 sexual assaults he's been accused of. 

 

I have a lot more to say about the subject, but frankly don't think this message board is worth the effort--not an accusation of you in particular as I find you pleasant enough to interact with.

 

The subject not an easy one.

You missed a couple questions my man, in fact, all of them.  I knew you gave JB a pass, but those are tough questions to square up with the analogy with your uncles.  I recognize the difference between hugging, and lecherous behavior, and I believe you do as well.
 

I think you’re exceptionally gracious toward Joe Biden, and giving him a huge pass on even the hair sniffing and hands at/around the waist of the female in question.  I also think the culture described at the Senate as a groping free-for-all in the time of Biden, Kennedy et al seems to point to a man epically unqualified to be President of the US. But, we’re all hypocrites from time to time.  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

This is a monumentally stupid point to try to run on, Joe. 

 

You can't win that fight. But he's dumb enough to try it.

[transplantbillsfan]

7 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

holy ???.    My mans putting himself in a pretzel to endorse rape. 
 

it’s just like the tyrod taylor pretzel after a 56 yard passing day.   
 

As Kenny Rogers would say.   You gonna know when to fold em.  

 

Thank you for providing the exact reason I thought it was pointless to respond to a post like that in this forum.

 

Glad I didn't spend longer.

[transplantbillsfan]

6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You missed a couple questions my man, in fact, all of them.  I knew you gave JB a pass, but those are tough questions to square up with the analogy with your uncles.  I recognize the difference between hugging, and lecherous behavior, and I believe you do as well.
 

I think you’re exceptionally gracious toward Joe Biden, and giving him a huge pass on even the hair sniffing and hands at/around the waist of the female in question.  I also think the culture described at the Senate as a groping free-for-all in the time of Biden, Kennedy et al seems to point to a man epically unqualified to be President of the US. But, we’re all hypocrites from time to time.  

 

Actually I addressed the first 2 questions if you're paying attention.

 

In fact I don't know why you bothered asking them since they're documented and aren't questioned by anyone, barring some word choice.

 

You're smart enough to understand that. I just trusted you were engaging in genuine dialogue rather than trying to set the stupid rhetorical traps that lead to fallacious arguments this place is so rich with. 

 

I'm disappointed in my own misplaced trust.

 

The answer to question 3 is no. His public statement was to postpone Kavanaugh's appointment and investigate the Ford accusation, "wherever that may lead." He said the same about Reade's allegations.

 

My answer to question 4 is no. Unless you're saying the movement to investigate was the movement to destroy Kavanaugh, then my answer is yes. I'm presuming you're asking me if I just wanted him automatically dismissed as a candidate because he was accused. And my answer to that would be absolutely not.

 

There, I wasted time directly answering all 4 questions.

[B-Man]

 

 

DISPATCHES FROM THE MEMORY HOLE: 

 

Remember when Joe Biden gave a eulogy for Strom Thurmond?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Actually I addressed the first 2 questions if you're paying attention.

 

In fact I don't know why you bothered asking them since they're documented and aren't questioned by anyone, barring some word choice.

 

You're smart enough to understand that. I just trusted you were engaging in genuine dialogue rather than trying to set the stupid rhetorical traps that lead to fallacious arguments this place is so rich with. 

 

I'm disappointed in my own misplaced trust.

 

The answer to question 3 is no. His public statement was to postpone Kavanaugh's appointment and investigate the Ford accusation, "wherever that may lead." He said the same about Reade's allegations.

 

My answer to question 4 is no. Unless you're saying the movement to investigate was the movement to destroy Kavanaugh, then my answer is yes. I'm presuming you're asking me if I just wanted him automatically dismissed as a candidate because he was accused. And my answer to that would be absolutely not.

 

There, I wasted time directly answering all 4 questions.

Transpy, it's a word salad with you sometimes.  Seriously, I was just sitting here, minding my own business and you sent me a note trying to dress me down on 85-15.  Why?  

 

You did not answer 1 and 2, not at all. The first seven sentences were about your uncles, your aunts, and Hawaiian culture. 

 

Question 1.  Was he accused?  The answer is...yes.  It's not hard to say it, that has nothing todo with your Uncle Buck. 

Question 2. Has he acknowledged his transgressions?  The answer is yes, he's acknowledged making women uncomfortable.  He went on to imply they just don't understand him.

 

These were simple questions but as the Russian Rocket @Teddy KGBsuggested, you contorted to avoid answering.  Keep in mind---you posed questions to me first--and I answered them.  I usually will. 

 

Question 3.  Well, if he called to postpone the nomination of Kavanaugh, wouldn't it make sense to pause his push for the White House, the highest seat in the land until her story can be fully vetted?  He called for an FBI probe against Brett Kavanaugh, shouldn't he demand one into Tara Reade's claims?  If he's sure he has nothing to hide, I would think he would beg for the chance to sit and go through it.  Do you think he should pause it, hit the brakes and think about the presidency in 2024?  

 

Question 4.  Good for you.  I really am surprised and I misread what you were thinking.  You say you supported the Brett Kav nomination, that's good enough for me. I apologize.

 

Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed in you as well.  The histrionics were unnecessary, disappointed in yourself blah blah blah.  You knew with 100% certainty that my response to your undying devotion to Brother Biden would be met in kind with questions back. 

 

We just disagree, and that's ok.  

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Transpy, it's a word salad with you sometimes.  Seriously, I was just sitting here, minding my own business and you sent me a note trying to dress me down on 85-15.  Why?  

 

You did not answer 1 and 2, not at all. The first seven sentences were about your uncles, your aunts, and Hawaiian culture. 

 

Question 1.  Was he accused?  The answer is...yes.  It's not hard to say it, that has nothing todo with your Uncle Buck. 

Question 2. Has he acknowledged his transgressions?  The answer is yes, he's acknowledged making women uncomfortable.  He went on to imply they just don't understand him.

 

Why did you ask questions you and everyone else know the answers to?

 

It's pretty dumb.

 

That the answer to those 2 questions is "yes" does not disqualify him. I skipped answering yes and moved on to respond to your next inevitable question/statement in the anecdotes about my uncles and Hawaiian culture. I responded to your word salad by actually trying to directly address your point instead of a one word "yes," which is ridiculous.

 

You seem to love building up your points with pointless questions that waste time. That's fine if you like spending a lot of time in this forum.

 

I don't.

 

So next time instead of asking unnecessary questions, get to the point.

 

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These were simple questions but as the Russian Rocket @Teddy KGBsuggested, you contorted to avoid answering.  Keep in mind---you posed questions to me first--and I answered them.  I usually will. 

 

As I just said I wasn't contorting. My question to you was one that I didn't know the answer to. You and everyone else knows the answer to your first 2 questions, thus my choice to skip answering them and instead explain why it's not as big a deal to me as it clearly is to you.

 

The answer to those 2 questions--barring some perhaps questionable word choce--is YES, obviously.

 

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Question 3.  Well, if he called to postpone the nomination of Kavanaugh, wouldn't it make sense to pause his push for the White House, the highest seat in the land until her story can be fully vetted?  He called for an FBI probe against Brett Kavanaugh, shouldn't he demand one into Tara Reade's claims?  If he's sure he has nothing to hide, I would think he would beg for the chance to sit and go through it.  Do you think he should pause it, hit the brakes and think about the presidency in 2024?  

 

Now this is a joke. You're being pointlessly ridiculous.

 

They were the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. 

 

When complete, he's on the Supreme Court as one of 9 judges.

 

Supreme Court Justices are appointed. They aren't elected officials.

 

The Senate was literally the last line of defense if he was guilty.

 

Biden would be an elected official.

 

The Presidential election is nearly 5 months away.

 

The Democratic National Convention is over 2 months away.

 

An investigation of the allegations can happen as he runs in the months to come.

 

You're being silly.

 

 

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Question 4.  Good for you.  I really am surprised and I misread what you were thinking.  You say you supported the Brett Kav nomination, that's good enough for me. I apologize.

 

I didn't say I fully supported the nomination but based on the results of the hearings, I felt there was insufficient revealed evidence to hold up the hearings any longer.

 

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Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed in you as well.  The histrionics were unnecessary, disappointed in yourself blah blah blah.  You knew with 100% certainty that my response to your undying devotion to Brother Biden would be met in kind with questions back. 

 

We just disagree, and that's ok.  

 

 

Actually I wasn't 100% certain you'd still claim you're 85-15 he did it.

 

In fact, I'm pretty shocked you are.

 

Mine was a legitimate question where I do admit to being a little childish in calling you out on it the way DR likes to try to do with me, but I did so because I figured you changed your opinion at least a bit.

Edited June 9, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[B-Man]

Hillary Clinton: "Why Aren't I 50 Points Ahead?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Why did you ask questions you and everyone else know the answers to?

 

It's pretty dumb.

 

That the answer to those 2 questions is "yes" does not disqualify him. I skipped answering yes and moved on to respond to your next inevitable question/statement in the anecdotes about my uncles and Hawaiian culture. I responded to your word salad by actually trying to directly address your point instead of a one word "yes," which is ridiculous.

 

You seem to love building up your points with pointless questions that waste time. That's fine if you like spending a lot of time in this forum.

 

I don't.

 

So next time instead of asking unnecessary questions, get to the point.

 

 

As I just said I wasn't contorting. My question to you was one that I didn't know the answer to. You and everyone else knows the answer to your first 2 questions, thus my choice to skip answering them and instead explain why it's not as big a deal to me as it clearly is to you.

 

The answer to those 2 questions--barring some perhaps questionable word choce--is YES, obviously.

 

 

Now this is a joke. You're being pointlessly ridiculous.

 

They were the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. 

 

When complete, he's on the Supreme Court as one of 9 judges.

 

Supreme Court Justices are appointed. They aren't elected officials.

 

The Senate was literally the last line of defense if he was guilty.

 

Biden would be an elected official.

 

The Presidential election is nearly 5 months away.

 

The Democratic National Convention is over 2 months away.

 

An investigation of the allegations can happen as he runs in the months to come.

 

You're being silly.

 

 

 

I didn't say I fully supported the nomination but based on the results of the hearings, I felt there was insufficient revealed evidence to hold up the hearings any longer.

 

 

Actually I wasn't 100% certain you'd still claim you're 85-15 he did it.

 

In fact, I'm pretty shocked you are.

 

Mine was a legitimate question where I do admit to being a little childish in calling you out on it the way DR likes to try to do with me, but I did so because I figured you changed your opinion at least a bit.

This awesome.  I use word salads as well.  I try to cut it back sometimes but I just can’t.  I never said it was a bad thing. 
 

I’ll take you at your word that you truly thought that I might have changed my mind because....well, nothing has changed so whatever. As I said back when this started, I applied the Golden rule according to Biden and the dem leadership.  That is all, no more, no less.

 

Hear me out on Biden w/re to Kavanaugh:

 

I respect the heck out your stance on Kavanaugh being nominated.  We probably disagree on this part:  They tried to ruin him, destroy him with a preposterous story that had no time/place/date/witness and the people the victim claimed were in the know contradicted her.  There was no need for a hearing, for the circus that followed, for a person to be able to derail the nomination and destroy the man with the aid of Harris, Schumer etc. 

 

On Biden re: Tara Reade:

 

Biden and the leaders of the Dems set the rules in place.  Delay the nomination. It’s a job interview and all bets are off.  Involve the FBI. Trash the man in front of the world.  I would expect the same treatment for Biden, indeed not a nominee for SC, but in an election for the most powerful position in the land.  I didn’t make the “whatever is said must fully be vetted and let’s pump the brakes” rule—-that’s your false idol, not mine. 
 

When I add in the fact that Biden was a key member of the fraternity of powerful men who apparently harrassed female staffers for decades and did nothing about it, well he’s a major enabler at best and a serial predator at worst. 
 

Finally, the nomination hearing did absolutely nothing for guilt and innocence, it was a tribunal to assassinate the character of a respected jurist.  That was the whole point—destroy the conservative and if it kills him, oh well.

 

When all is said and done, Biden is a sleazy guy. Probably as sleazy as any Washington lifer, and while you are comfortable placing him in office, all I’m asking is that he follow the path he set out, and demand the FBI fully review this allegation.  
 

That he will not demand said investigation reveals much about his guilt per the rules of the dem party. 

 

 

[Doc]

Again, Biden is such a sleaze, Jon Stewart, unprovoked, made a comment about it back in 2015 on The Daily Show.  And Reade's mother calling into Larry King Live right after this was alleged to have happened is something you just cannot make up.

 

So like I said, you either believe all women...or you think that women can lie.  You can't conveniently have it both ways to suit what you choose to believe.  In which case both guys are sleazeballs, as many men of power are.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This awesome.  I use word salads as well.  I try to cut it back sometimes but I just can’t.  I never said it was a bad thing. 
 

I’ll take you at your word that you truly thought that I might have changed my mind because....well, nothing has changed so whatever. As I said back when this started, I applied the Golden rule according to Biden and the dem leadership.  That is all, no more, no less.

 

Hear me out on Biden w/re to Kavanaugh:

 

I respect the heck out your stance on Kavanaugh being nominated.  We probably disagree on this part:  They tried to ruin him, destroy him with a preposterous story that had no time/place/date/witness and the people the victim claimed were in the know contradicted her.  There was no need for a hearing, for the circus that followed, for a person to be able to derail the nomination and destroy the man with the aid of Harris, Schumer etc. 

 

On Biden re: Tara Reade:

 

Biden and the leaders of the Dems set the rules in place.  Delay the nomination. It’s a job interview and all bets are off.  Involve the FBI. Trash the man in front of the world.  I would expect the same treatment for Biden, indeed not a nominee for SC, but in an election for the most powerful position in the land.  I didn’t make the “whatever is said must fully be vetted and let’s pump the brakes” rule—-that’s your false idol, not mine. 
 

When I add in the fact that Biden was a key member of the fraternity of powerful men who apparently harrassed female staffers for decades and did nothing about it, well he’s a major enabler at best and a serial predator at worst. 
 

Finally, the nomination hearing did absolutely nothing for guilt and innocence, it was a tribunal to assassinate the character of a respected jurist.  That was the whole point—destroy the conservative and if it kills him, oh well.

 

When all is said and done, Biden is a sleazy guy. Probably as sleazy as any Washington lifer, and while you are comfortable placing him in office, all I’m asking is that he follow the path he set out, and demand the FBI fully review this allegation.  
 

That he will not demand said investigation reveals much about his guilt per the rules of the dem party. 

 

 

 

Thanks for the dialogue.

 

We disagree, but I respect your opinion nonetheless.