Chandler#81 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 13 hours ago, I am the egg man said: The "I"'s have it. Holy Crap! You’re right! I counted 20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Why does everyone seem so shocked about us drafting a rb? It was inevitable. This is clearly McCoy's last year if he isn't traded sooner. Gore is a 1 yr rental. Murphy, Perry & Wade are not long term solutions. It may be Yelton and Singletary may be it for next year? I thought the siging of Yeldon meant they weren't going to draft one until next year. Especially with their 3rd round pick. Rookie RB's has the easiest learning curve so why not wait a year to draft one as you have more pressing needs (WR, DE). Gore and Shady pry have at least one good year left. McBeane must've been really high on this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 OP, just because you picked Murray doesn't mean that the Cardinals "needed" to do that. What does it matter if they picked him #1 if he busts? What if Murray never gets much better than Mark Sanchez while Rosen goes on become a true franchise QB? Nobody can claim to have "won" a draft until the guys taken in that draft prove themselves, which generally comes 3-5 years after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 9 hours ago, TigerJ said: I generally don't criticize people for expressing opinions. The only thing that tends to get under my skin is when people tout their opinions as fact and suggest that anyone who doesn't go along is stupid. As far as Murray to Arizona is concerned, it was almost a given, once the Cards hired Kliff Kingsbury to be their head coach. Kingsbury was never going to run a West Coast offense. There is some question whether or not Rosen can thrive in anything but a WC offense. Murray, on the other hand is made for the Air Raid offense. How long before the Air Raid Offense gets figured out by NFL DCs? The last time a collegiate coaching "genius" brought his offense to the NFL, it took NFL DCs only about a season or so to figure out Chip Kelly. Is the Air Raid Offense all that different from the Run and Gun that Gerry Glanville ran back in the 1990s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 It's impossible to put a time frame on it, but DCs are already working on it. NFL offenses are also working on incorporating elements of it. Andy Reid incorporated a lot of Air Raid elements last season for Pat Mahomes. I think Sean McVay has done some of that with Jared Goff. Others are sure to follow. I doubt the Air Raid is going to go away. I saw a TV show that explained it, and it really is hard to defend. I expect it will become part of the mix that you find across the NFL. It's like the West Coast Offense. That never really went away, but it has evolved, and variations of it have developed as members of the Bill Wash coaching tree put their own spin on it. Andy Reid is a West Coast guy, but now his offense is a West Coast/Air Raid hybrid. Brian Daboll is no dummy. I think Josh Allen's skill set probably lends itself to the Air Raid, and I wouldn't be surprised if he incorporates some Air Raid style plays, if he hasn't all ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 14 hours ago, R Y G A R said: Singletary was #1 RB on a few analysts draft boards. I'd rather have him this year and draft a stud WR next year, than reach for a WR this year and then have to take a RB high next year. Better value imo. A top RB in the 3rd makes sense. That's where they went. It's just this one is slower, smaller, less involved in the passing game and played against lesser competition than the guy I liked taken at #74 (Montgomery) so it's going to take me some time to warm up to the pick. I liked Butler for his athletisicm, size and RAC ability but maybe they know something about his drops that makes them think he'll never be coached out of them. I have purposefully never followed the draft into much detail. I did not want to get to liking guys too much for my team and then not getting them. Sort of like not getting anything on your Christmas list which is a trap I normally choose to avoid. I worked with a guy who claimed that the only reason his family asked him what he wanted for his birthday or Christmas was so they would not accidently get him something he actually wanted. But, I fell into the trap this year because this offseason is pivotal to the Bills turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, TigerJ said: It's impossible to put a time frame on it, but DCs are already working on it. NFL offenses are also working on incorporating elements of it. Andy Reid incorporated a lot of Air Raid elements last season for Pat Mahomes. I think Sean McVay has done some of that with Jared Goff. Others are sure to follow. I doubt the Air Raid is going to go away. I saw a TV show that explained it, and it really is hard to defend. I expect it will become part of the mix that you find across the NFL. It's like the West Coast Offense. That never really went away, but it has evolved, and variations of it have developed as members of the Bill Wash coaching tree put their own spin on it. Andy Reid is a West Coast guy, but now his offense is a West Coast/Air Raid hybrid. Brian Daboll is no dummy. I think Josh Allen's skill set probably lends itself to the Air Raid, and I wouldn't be surprised if he incorporates some Air Raid style plays, if he hasn't all ready. It's an interesting case study IMO. I noticed that Belichick's plan for the Rams in the Super Bowl was to hit them hard, and hit them often. That's a serious departure from what most NFL teams are doing these days; trying to get smaller, faster, and more opportunistic. Instead, Belichick went big. Hitting the Rams' receivers off the line and taking the wood to Jared Goff whenever possible. Then what does he do this offseason? Trades fo a much-larger-than-average DE in Michael Bennett, signs 333-lb Mike Pennel and 320-lb David Parry in free agency, and spends 2 of his first 3 draft picks on a 6'4" corner and a 255-lb linebacker. Classic Belichick: the rest of the league is going pass-happy, so he goes full-on run-first and wins a Super Bowl. The rest of the league gets small/fast on defense to combat the pass-happiness, while he's getting bigger and more physical on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 hours ago, SoTier said: OP, just because you picked Murray doesn't mean that the Cardinals "needed" to do that. What does it matter if they picked him #1 if he busts? What if Murray never gets much better than Mark Sanchez while Rosen goes on become a true franchise QB? Nobody can claim to have "won" a draft until the guys taken in that draft prove themselves, which generally comes 3-5 years after the draft. I never said they "needed to do it" alls i was saying in my earlier post about the cards was that with the hire of Kingsbury & given the fact that he loved the guy while at the college level & while he was a college coach also given that the Cards had Rosen to use as a possible trade bait scenario that it would happen & a lot of Bills fans in typical fashion said there was no way it would happen & that it would be stupid if they did. Well it did happen, i called it & i'm gloating because i can ? weather they needed to or not ? Just saying ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Wait, are you gloating about the Murray pick? The same pick 99% of all mock drafts had going to AZ? What are you going to gloat about tomorrow? About being right the sky is blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, T master said: I never said they "needed to do it" alls i was saying in my earlier post about the cards was that with the hire of Kingsbury & given the fact that he loved the guy while at the college level & while he was a college coach also given that the Cards had Rosen to use as a possible trade bait scenario that it would happen & a lot of Bills fans in typical fashion said there was no way it would happen & that it would be stupid if they did. Well it did happen, i called it & i'm gloating because i can ? weather they needed to or not ? Just saying ... Oh wow! You mean you called it a whole 2 months ahead? I'm amazed. Try this: That'd be a whole 11-1/2 months ahead on Mayfield... Should I be revered for that? No...the point is that we've all made good calls every now and again (some more than others); you don't need to start a thread about it. Edited April 30, 2019 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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