Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Foxx said: okay, let go with your....unbridled enthusiasm for a minute. please be honest if you can. so, we just let in whomever wants to come in. i assume you advocate for the admission of the sick, diseased, addled and weak not to mention the unskilled who have absolutely no ability to hold a job. lets say this year we let in 10 million illegals, next year we let in 50 million illegals. the American social welfare economic model begins to seriously teeter to the point where it is essentially insoluble trying to care for all these people. the only solution is to raise taxes to the 70% rate but, you know we can't do that because AOC has already raised it to that level to fund her Green energy programs. at what point do you say we cannot sustain this? is it when the American way of life is brought to third world standards? that is certainly what you are advocating whether you want to admit it or not. Woo! Did you know that most people don't want to come here? My solutions are to abolish the the northern and southern borders, create one nation out of us all. Only way we can compete against China. Then I'd use foreign policy to fix up other places around the globe to make those places nice, and our allies. Way better than building a stupid wall or invading countries like with Bush and Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Woo! Did you know that most people don't want to come here? My solutions are to abolish the the northern and southern borders, create one nation out of us all. Only way we can compete against China. Then I'd use foreign policy to fix up other places around the globe to make those places nice, and our allies. Way better than building a stupid wall or invading countries like with Bush and Iraq. So your solution is the dissolution of the United States of America and its sovereignty. At least you're finally being honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Woo! Did you know that most people don't want to come here? My solutions are to abolish the the northern and southern borders, create one nation out of us all. Only way we can compete against China. Then I'd use foreign policy to fix up other places around the globe to make those places nice, and our allies. Way better than building a stupid wall or invading countries like with Bush and Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: So your solution is the dissolution of the United States of America and its sovereignty. At least you're finally being honest. No, the expansion of the United States, that's our history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: No, the expansion of the United States, that's our history! That's not an expansion. That's a surrender. Unless you're advocating invading Mexico and Canada before removing those borders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's not an expansion. That's a surrender. Unless you're advocating invading Mexico and Canada before removing those borders? Ya, I guess sort of like marriage is a surrender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya, I guess sort of like marriage is a surrender Do you honestly believe Canada and Mexico would just let the US absorb them without war? I think the UK would have more than a thing or two to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Do you honestly believe Canada and Mexico would just let the US absorb them without war? I think the UK would have more than a thing or two to say about that. Yes, slowly. The UK? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, slowly. The UK? Huh? Canada is a commonwealth nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So if they can work they should come in, what's the problem? And people escaping persecution. Let's not go back to the days of MS St. Louis This is a red herring. Whenever you see this argument used wrt the southern border you know the person is concealing his real agenda and selling you something he thinks you're more likely to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Do you honestly believe Canada and Mexico would just let the US absorb them without war? I think the UK would have more than a thing or two to say about that. The UK?? You think China would roll over on that one? He's saying this to allow us to compete with China. His plan would blow the world up with WWIII. And people that live in shithole countries are typically the reason their countries are shitholes. Edited January 9, 2019 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Very low crime rate in El Paso! https://realestate.usnews.com/places/texas/el-paso/crime 17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Canada is a commonwealth nation. So? That means very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 This stat is very sad and what is even sadder that CBS deleted it because it reinforced the claim: CBS decided to help Democrats by fact-checking in real time President Trump's address on the need for a wall. CBS reported, "Fact check: Number of women sexually assaulted on trip to border. "CLAIM: The president claimed one in three women have been sexually assaulted traveling to the border. "FACT CHECK: Between 60 percent and 80 percent of female migrants traveling through Mexico are raped along the way, Amnesty International estimates." None of the "fact checks" CBS left in place refuted the President's claims from last night (you have to add on one of them). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: This stat is very sad and what is even sadder that CBS deleted it because it reinforced the claim: CBS decided to help Democrats by fact-checking in real time President Trump's address on the need for a wall. CBS reported, "Fact check: Number of women sexually assaulted on trip to border. "CLAIM: The president claimed one in three women have been sexually assaulted traveling to the border. "FACT CHECK: Between 60 percent and 80 percent of female migrants traveling through Mexico are raped along the way, Amnesty International estimates." None of the "fact checks" CBS left in place refuted the President's claims from last night (you have to add on one of them). The most embarrassing part of Trump's speech is listening to the left -- who have spent years yelling "if we only save one person..." -- explaining how there just aren't that many people being raped, murdered and sold for sex to build a wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So? That means very little. Tell that to the Brits. They'll disagree. Canada is still theirs. ******************************* I know this one was posted, but the threads are hilarious (and tragic all at once). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Did people actually watch the address and if so, why? I did not. I'm pretty sure though that I could give a spot-on recap of it despite not having seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, The_Dude said: Did people actually watch the address and if so, why? I did not. I'm pretty sure though that I could give a spot-on recap of it despite not having seen it. Normally I prefer to read addresses. But with Trump's routine of going off script, it's much more informative to watch and listen to the full address - so I watched both live. Why? Because I'd rather hear the information for myself before I read people's spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Normally I prefer to read addresses. But with Trump's routine of going off script, it's much more informative to watch and listen to the full address - so I watched both live. Why? Because I'd rather hear the information for myself before I read people's spin. With Trump, the only way to understand him is to listen. I've tried reading his addresses and it hurts the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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