row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, nkreed said: I'm aware of the rule and the intention of that rule. It was NOT intended to allow a defender to hit a person in the back. This is the ONLY instance in the rulebook that allows for a player to legally contact the back of a player. I am fine with the rule, but there needs to be an exception for contact through the players back. This exception brings the rule back into conformity with the rest of the rulebook. does it happen constantly in a given NFL week? is this something Bills fans only cared to notice just because it happened last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: does it happen constantly in a given NFL week? is this something Bills fans only cared to notice just because it happened last week? Exceptions to rules happen infrequently. That's why they are exceptions. It is rather normal for a rulebook to have these kinds of things written in to prevent circumvention of a standard rule (in this case going through an opposing players back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, billrooter said: Here I am so, so your looking for me to say I was wrong? NO! You replied to the guy who was going on and on on Sunday night about how the ball was tipped and it was behind the LOS. He called for somebody to put up a replay. Somebody did...............And, he hasn't been back...............What you said is what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, billrooter said: Got ya, and what a stupid ass rule. Rbs behind the line of scrimmage on a screen just mug him then right? That is right. When RB's go out for a screen a defender will start hitting him before the ball gets their in order to disrupt the play. That is if a defender can get to the receiver in time. It also allows RB's WR's OL out on screen pass etc etc to block behind the line of scrimmage on pass plays without penalty. Don't confuse this with holding the potential receiver. You still can not do that. But you can hit him and mug him. You can't overzealously mug him like Sherman did to Woods on the Monday night game in Seattle. Sherman was allowed to contact and impede Woods as Tyrod was out of the pocket scrambling and had not thrown the ball yet. Our beef with Sherman is he committed personal foul as he blew up the receiver and knocked him down instead of just contacting and bumping running with him. 16 hours ago, zow2 said: Why the hell would anyone do a 1 yard pattern,? Makes perfect sense to clobber a receiver and maybe get a deflection INT. Could not have worked out more perfectly for the Bears. on replay it appears Jones cut inside as the other Bills WR was attempting to set a pick for him and missed as the DB went around him. If the other Bills WR went downfield a little more it would have been an illegal pick. Edited November 6, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, bbb said: NO! You replied to the guy who was going on and on on Sunday night about how the ball was tipped and it was behind the LOS. He called for somebody to put up a replay. Somebody did...............And, he hasn't been back...............What you said is what I said. Ok sorry BBB was confused figured I would ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, nkreed said: Exceptions to rules happen infrequently. That's why they are exceptions. It is rather normal for a rulebook to have these kinds of things written in to prevent circumvention of a standard rule (in this case going through an opposing players back). you've wasted enough time on this, it's not getting overturned and it didn't matter anyway.... move on, show's ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: you've wasted enough time on this, it's not getting overturned and it didn't matter anyway.... move on, show's ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... You're right, it's not getting overturned, but it's an unintended consequences that they will look at. I will say it gets changed this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) On 11/5/2018 at 9:57 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: This is not the replay, I was referring to. This is another camera angle. On the replay it was close up on peterman and you can clearly see the ball tipped by the left end #96, I believe; so much so it affected the spinning. Ill pull up the DVR and see if I can take a vid on my phone and upload it. Edited November 6, 2018 by PittsforDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Why these passes are rarely thrown...people usually take a few steps back from the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, PittsforDave said: This is not the replay, I was referring to. This is another camera angle. On the replay it was close up on peterman and you can clearly see the ball tipped by the left end #96, I believe; so much so it affected the spinning. Ill pull up the DVR and see if I can take a vid on my phone and upload it. I watched it again on GamePass and the ball was not tipped. If was tipped that would make the hit on Zay Jones that much more legal and make the PI question moot regardless of where contact occurred. At any rate, the pass was not tipped. Hicks swung his left hand at the ball but never made contact with it. No tipped pass. Edited November 6, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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