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9 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Who was the last SU player picked in the top 15?

 

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


my guess is Michael Carter-Williams? 

And he would be correct with Michael Carter-Williams 

 

Who is a tall slashing point guard like Richmond

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11 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

11 years ago.  Boeheim got lazy, and recruiting fell off of a cliff.

 

 

Did you forget the serious sanctions? We lost three scholarships a year... Which is insane in basketball 

 

Sanctions only ended in 2020... And it still takes a couple of seasons to recover 

 

Syracuse went from getting top 80 recruits, with a top 20 guy every other year 

 

To top 350 recruits... That is a massive difference 

 

The players Syracuse normally recruit didn't want to come here under sanctions...

 

We literally have the 6th ranked player in the country coming in... The best power forward in the country... And one of the best guards from New York City 

 

Syracuse recruiting is back.. it just takes a couple cycles to build a team

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41 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Did you forget the serious sanctions? We lost three scholarships a year... Which is insane in basketball 

 

Sanctions only ended in 2020... And it still takes a couple of seasons to recover 

 

Syracuse went from getting top 80 recruits, with a top 20 guy every other year 

 

To top 350 recruits... That is a massive difference 

 

The players Syracuse normally recruit didn't want to come here under sanctions...

 

We literally have the 6th ranked player in the country coming in... The best power forward in the country... And one of the best guards from New York City 

 

Syracuse recruiting is back.. it just takes a couple cycles to build a team

And whose fault were the sanctions?

 

No Top 15 picks in the 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 drafts?  Forget about the top 15 of the draft - Syracuse has only had 1 player selected in the NBA draft after 2017 (Hughes in 2020).   Just last season, schools like UCF, Santa Clara and Belmont had kids drafted in the first round.  The year before that, Santa Clara (again), Colorado State and Wisconsin-Milwaukee.  Even with any lingering effects of recruiting sanctions (which ended after the 2018-2019 season), Syracuse can't compete with the recruiting of these types of programs?

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

And whose fault were the sanctions?

 

No Top 15 picks in the 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 drafts?  Forget about the top 15 of the draft - Syracuse has only had 1 player selected in the NBA draft after 2017 (Hughes in 2020).   Just last season, schools like UCF, Santa Clara and Belmont had kids drafted in the first round.  The year before that, Santa Clara (again), Colorado State and Wisconsin-Milwaukee.  Even with any lingering effects of recruiting sanctions (which ended after the 2018-2019 season), Syracuse can't compete with the recruiting of these types of programs?

 

 

 

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Syracuse basketball from 2008-2017 went 9 out of 10 years with a first round pick 

 

Only Duke and Kentucky had a better streak... Then sanctions

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13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Syracuse basketball from 2008-2017 went 9 out of 10 years with a first round pick 

 

Only Duke and Kentucky had a better streak... Then sanctions

Sanctions were announced in 2015, and took effect starting with the 2015-16 season.

 

How did Boeheim get kids to commit  to - and stay with - Syracuse, such that they were able to make a FF run in '16 and have first round picks in '16 and '17?  There was no recruiting bump after the '16 FF?

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26 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Sanctions were announced in 2015, and took effect starting with the 2015-16 season.

 

How did Boeheim get kids to commit  to - and stay with - Syracuse, such that they were able to make a FF run in '16 and have first round picks in '16 and '17?  There was no recruiting bump after the '16 FF?

We lost three scholarships a year from 15-16 , 16-17, 17-18, 18-19

 

That is a lot of scholarships that slowly started to effect the team ... And also recruiting 

 

Some of those teams from the late 2000s early 2010s we're playing 9 10 guys... Really good guys... Boeheim could bench the entire 5 and put in a brand new five and they could ball and win

 

We had top five pick Dion waiters on bench 

 

The sanctions put us down to six playable guys... Six talented guys 

 

We had Frank Howard and tyus battle and O'Shea brissett playing entire games 

 

There was no 7th 8th or 9th man... The depth of the team was gone

 

 

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On 4/27/2024 at 3:09 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


ugh. Oh well. When this thing dragged, I had a feeling. I bet he was torn on his decision. 

 

On 4/27/2024 at 2:28 PM, DCOrange said:

Leffew to his hometown school: Georgia.

William Patterson also left!!

 

Damn he's 7'2 and I had high hopes

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

William Patterson also left!!

 

Damn he's 7'2 and I had high hopes


Another day, another departure. This is just getting depressing. I think that leaves two centers on the roster, and Nyheim seems like he isn’t the most durable. 
 

BTW, my buddy who is a McNeese State fan (actually played for them) sent me photos of Quadir Copeland down there eating alligator as he was being wined and dined. I still can’t get over losing him! 

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2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


Another day, another departure. This is just getting depressing. I think that leaves two centers on the roster, and Nyheim seems like he isn’t the most durable. 
 

BTW, my buddy who is a McNeese State fan (actually played for them) sent me photos of Quadir Copeland down there eating alligator as he was being wined and dined. I still can’t get over losing him! 

I can't imagine Copeland going to McNeese State LOL 

 

Unless there really is something wrong with his character... But he seems so smiley and friendly at Syracuse 

 

He's got to be a high major player.. he's a 6'6 guard who is super crafty

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I can't imagine Copeland going to McNeese State LOL 

 

Unless there really is something wrong with his character... But he seems so smiley and friendly at Syracuse 

 

He's got to be a high major player.. he's a 6'6 guard who is super crafty

It is Will Wade coaching there. He's getting some pretty good players.

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25 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

It is Will Wade coaching there. He's getting some pretty good players.

Didn't will Wade get investigated by the FBI LOL and fired from LSU for some sketchy stuff 

 

Doesn't surprise me he's getting good guy lol

 

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3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


Another day, another departure. This is just getting depressing. I think that leaves two centers on the roster, and Nyheim seems like he isn’t the most durable. 
 

BTW, my buddy who is a McNeese State fan (actually played for them) sent me photos of Quadir Copeland down there eating alligator as he was being wined and dined. I still can’t get over losing him! 

It turns out mkneese State might be the place for quadir lol

 

I didn't realize wade was there and he probably gave him a bag with 300k cash and a ford explorer 🤣

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Sounds like Ken Evans Jr. from Jackson State may be our new target in the portal after Leffew chose Georgia over us. Evans won Player of the Year in the SWAC (considered the worst conference in Division 1). Interesting target though...while Leffew looked like more of a SG than a PG to me, he did at least play PG this season and you could see flashes of him making good reads off the dribble and stuff. Evans is purely a SG and probably closer to a SF than a PG. It feels like we may be angling towards starting JJ Starling as our PG at this point, which is a bit questionable. The other option would be to start our new transfer PG, Jaquan Carlos, and bring Evans off the bench (assuming he even commits), but we'll see I guess. Carlos probably isn't good enough to be an ideal starter either but he is at least a pure PG type that will play exactly the way I think Autry wants us to.

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I have now heard from multiple people that we've reached out to Kadary Richmond and he is at least open to returning to Syracuse. I'll believe it when I see it, but if we can somehow pull that off, that is a total game changer for next season.

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15 hours ago, DCOrange said:

I have now heard from multiple people that we've reached out to Kadary Richmond and he is at least open to returning to Syracuse. I'll believe it when I see it, but if we can somehow pull that off, that is a total game changer for next season.


that would be amazing. He is the one guy that I think everyone was sick to their stomachs about losing as a transfer. 
 

but I agree— not holding my breadth. He has to be the top player in the portal right now.

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