Gregg Rosenthal: 2018 NFL QB Index - Ranking QBs from the Last Four Drafts

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On 9/27/2018 at 2:57 PM, Domdab99 said:

I know people do these things for fun, but rankings and power rankings and all that are just so silly...whoever wins...that's who's good. Whoever keeps winning...that's who's better. 

 

 

sometimes greats are playing on bad teams

 

 

but we don't need stats or rankings to tell us if we watch football

 

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QB Index, Week 6: Four opinions I will fight you over

 

 

It's easy to have an opinion about quarterbacks. But there are too many opinions in this media environment without real conviction behind them. I believe in the four statements below so much that I will fight you if you disagree with any of them.

 

Patrick Mahomes will have staying power

Anthony Lynn has seen the light: Philip Rivers must be maximized

Jameis Winston will take advantage of this opportunity

Blake Bortles is better

Edited October 11, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

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NFL Week 7 QB Power Rankings: Sam Darnold quietly flipping script between Jets and Giants

by Will Brinson

 

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QB Index, Week 7: Finally, It's Philip Rivers' Year

 

By Gregg Rosenthal - Around The NFL Editor

 

This is the Philip Rivers season I've been waiting for, his no-hitter entering the fifth inning that I'm afraid to jinx by writing about.

 

All of Rivers' usual attributes are ever-present. He is throwing his receivers open with the anticipation of someone who already knows how the play is going to end. He's the master of the mid-range game, throwing line drives through zone defenses and teardrops over man coverage down the sideline. He delivers passes just before he's hit, just like he connects on postgame observations that could be stitched, framed and put in your bathroom.

 

NOTE: This is the Quarterback Index. The QBs are ranked based on 2018 play alone. So what's happened in previous seasons -- and what will happen moving forward -- doesn't matter in this exercise. The next ranking of all 32 starters comes in two weeks.

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QB Confidence Index: Ranking NFL depth charts 1-32

 

Dan Graziano ESPN Staff Writer

 

A couple of weeks back, I was in Houston to cover the Sunday night game between the Texans and the Cowboys, and I was talking to one of the Texans' coaches on the field before the game. I asked him how he felt about this game, and we had a wide-ranging talk about all of their injuries and what a rough start it had been to the season for them and how well the Cowboys' defense had been playing, etc.

 

Then he said, "But with our quarterback, I feel like we always have a chance."

 

And that's it, right there. That sentiment is the very basis for the Quarterback Confidence Index. If you feel good about your quarterback, you feel like you have a chance. If you don't, you probably don't. Any "yeah, but" you can throw at that logic is pure rationalization. Is it possible to win without a franchise quarterback? Sure. But I don't know a team that would want to try.

 

With that in mind, we present the latest installment of an occasional feature we like to call the Quarterback Confidence Index. Please remember, this is not a ranking of starting quarterbacks. Rather, it is a ranking of teams in order of which we believe have the most confidence in their quarterback situation as a whole. That means starter, backup situation, age, health history, plans for the future, etc. If you click ahead to your team and don't like what's written about it there, try to carve out some time to read the rest of the piece, for context. Otherwise, I'll see you on Twitter and try not to take it personally.

29. Buffalo Bills

 

With first-round rookie Josh Allen sidelined because of injury, the current starter in Buffalo is Derek Anderson, who has a career completion percentage of 54.3 to go with 60 touchdown passes and 63 interceptions in 77 career games (48 starts). His backup, while Allen is hurt, is Nathan Peterman, who has 35 completions and nine interceptions in 79 career pass attempts.

 

Short-term confidence: LOW. With a patchwork offensive line and an even patchworkier receiving corps, there's not much anyone can do here. They're marking time until Allen is back and can continue his development.

 

Long-term confidence: MEDIUM. The Bills liked Allen enough to take him No. 7 overall, and they believe he's their future. He just hasn't shown enough yet to warrant the optimism of a Darnold or a Mayfield.

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QB INDEX

 

 

Five Surprise Trade Candidates

Around this time last season, Jimmy Garoppolo was traded to the 49ers and it shocked the NFL world. Who could be that surprise QB trade this season? Gregg Rosethal lists five candidates.

 

Quarterback trades have become a thing over the last few years. From Sam Bradford to Alex Smith to Jacoby Brissett and AJ McCarron, the trade tsunami taking over the league has extended to its most important position.

 

No quarterback trade came as a bigger surprise than the San Francisco 49ers' deadline deal for Jimmy Garoppolo last season. It was a seismic move that none of the insiders saw coming. Before getting to the Week 8 QB rankings below, let's take a quick look at some long-shot candidates to get moved before the league's Oct. 30 deadline (next Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET), with an eye on what could happen to them this offseason.

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NFL Week 9 QB Power Rankings: Cam Newton an MVP candidate again thanks to Norv Turner's offense

 

by Will Brinson

 

To the weekly quarterback rankings. 

 

Yell at me on Twitter @WillBrinson with your complaints, questions and (unlikely) compliments and make sure to check out my daily NFL podcast, the Pick Six Podcast, which you can subscribe to on iTunes here. 

 

To the rankings:

 

 

Ranking QBs 1-32: See Where Brady, Rodgers Land

 

Gregg Rosenthal reveals his ranking of all 32 starting quarterbacks at the midpoint of the 2018 NFL season. Have a look at where Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady land in the pecking order heading into their Week 9 matchup

 

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Is this for fantasy football purposes?

 

On what planet is Kirk Cousins better than Drew Brees or Matt Ryan better than Tom Brady?

 

Not a fan of that list.

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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:

Is this for fantasy football purposes?

 

On what planet is Kirk Cousins better than Drew Brees or Matt Ryan better than Tom Brady?

 

Not a fan of that list.

 

The Saints don't rely on Brees as much as they used to with the strong running game provided by Ingram and Kamara.  They are a well balanced attack.  Simms is likely just looking at how each QB is playing right now.  Same thing with Rosenthal who has Brady at 10 currently IIRC. 

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

The Saints don't rely on Brees as much as they used to with the strong running game provided by Ingram and Kamara.  They are a well balanced attack.  Simms is likely just looking at how each QB is playing right now.  Same thing with Rosenthal who has Brady at 10 currently IIRC. 

I can see Brees slipping in the rankings based on that clock killing offense, but not down to 9 and not behind Cousins.

 

It's a subjective list and I'm sure there's data to support his rankings so it is what it is. 

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16 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I can see Brees slipping in the rankings based on that clock killing offense, but not down to 9 and not behind Cousins.

 

It's a subjective list and I'm sure there's data to support his rankings so it is what it is. 

 

I think each of these "analysts" uses highly subjective criteria. 

Edited November 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

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As we close the door on Week 9 in the NFL, it’s time to look at Pro Football Focus’ season grades for all 32 starting quarterbacks in the NFL. The best of the best have likely already punched their tickets to the playoffs, while the signal-callers nearing the middle of the pack and below have work to do in order to get back on track under center.

NATHAN PETERMAN, QB, BUFFALO BILLS

2018 OVERALL GRADE: 32.9

Accuracy percentage: 46.3% (N/A)

 

Clean-Pocket Grade: 36.0 (N/A)

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Best, worst QBs of the first half: Who follows Mahomes?

 

Seth Walder, ESPN Analytics

 

As we pass the midway mark on the 2018 NFL season, the Total QBR leaderboard is a good place to see which quarterbacks have dominated and which have struggled mightily through the first half.

 

While QBs most often are judged by wins and losses or touchdowns and interceptions, we like to rank them by the stat that measures their per-play contribution to their team's cause.

 

An explainer of QBR can be found here, but the main idea is to capture more elements of a quarterback's play than traditional methods consider. QBR includes the value (or lack thereof) of quarterback rushing, sacks, fumbles, relevant penalties and -- crucially -- the down and distance of every play. QBR works on a 0-to-100 scale, with 50 roughly average and 75 about Pro Bowl-caliber.

 

Which quarterbacks were the best and worst in the first half?

Bottom three

1. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

Total QBR: 30.8

 

Allen seems to have a weakness in dealing with pressure. Only C.J. Beathardhas a worse QBR when under duress.

 

The good news is that the former Wyoming quarterback has an above-average pass-blocking group in front of him, according to our pass block win rate metrics from NFL Next Gen Stats. The bad news is that even with that support, he has been the least efficient quarterback in the league among qualifiers (no, teammate Nathan Peterman isn't qualified).

 

One look at the receiving corps suggests Allen isn't getting much help, but the early returns on a quarterback that entered the draft with plenty of questions have been poor. He has been out since Week 6 with an elbow injury but is on the mend.

 

Josh Allen Under Pressure

	COMPLETIONS	ATTEMPTS	YARDS	TD	INT
	12	39	134	0	3

Week 9's Worst Quarterbacks

By Total QBR

QB	TEAM	QBR
Nathan Peterman	Buffalo Bills	11.9
Sam Darnold	New York Jets	19.5
Derek Carr	Oakland Raiders	23.3

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On 11/2/2018 at 7:35 PM, LSHMEAB said:

Is this for fantasy football purposes?

 

On what planet is Kirk Cousins better than Drew Brees or Matt Ryan better than Tom Brady?

 

Not a fan of that list.

Based on this year alone a lot of QBs are better than Brady. He's been pretty good, but not his normal exceptional.

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52 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Based on this year alone a lot of QBs are better than Brady. He's been pretty good, but not his normal exceptional.

 

all that matters is they secure as much HFA as they can and give another try to win a SB

 

they couldn't care less about stats

 

 

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5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Based on this year alone a lot of QBs are better than Brady. He's been pretty good, but not his normal exceptional.

I understand this was an analytical ranking. Just quibbling with a couple spots.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

So.....

 

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22 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Best, worst QBs of the first half: Who follows Mahomes?

 

Seth Walder, ESPN Analytics

 

As we pass the midway mark on the 2018 NFL season, the Total QBR leaderboard is a good place to see which quarterbacks have dominated and which have struggled mightily through the first half.

 

While QBs most often are judged by wins and losses or touchdowns and interceptions, we like to rank them by the stat that measures their per-play contribution to their team's cause.

 

An explainer of QBR can be found here, but the main idea is to capture more elements of a quarterback's play than traditional methods consider. QBR includes the value (or lack thereof) of quarterback rushing, sacks, fumbles, relevant penalties and -- crucially -- the down and distance of every play. QBR works on a 0-to-100 scale, with 50 roughly average and 75 about Pro Bowl-caliber.

 

Which quarterbacks were the best and worst in the first half?

Bottom three

1. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

Total QBR: 30.8

 

Allen seems to have a weakness in dealing with pressure. Only C.J. Beathardhas a worse QBR when under duress.

 

The good news is that the former Wyoming quarterback has an above-average pass-blocking group in front of him, according to our pass block win rate metrics from NFL Next Gen Stats. The bad news is that even with that support, he has been the least efficient quarterback in the league among qualifiers (no, teammate Nathan Peterman isn't qualified).

 

One look at the receiving corps suggests Allen isn't getting much help, but the early returns on a quarterback that entered the draft with plenty of questions have been poor. He has been out since Week 6 with an elbow injury but is on the mend.

 

Josh Allen Under Pressure

	COMPLETIONS	ATTEMPTS	YARDS	TD	INT
	12	39	134	0	3

Week 9's Worst Quarterbacks

By Total QBR

QB	TEAM	QBR
Nathan Peterman	Buffalo Bills	11.9
Sam Darnold	New York Jets	19.5
Derek Carr	Oakland Raiders	23.3

 

 

"The good news is that the former Wyoming quarterback has an above-average pass-blocking group in front of him, according to our pass block win rate metrics from NFL Next Gen Stats."

 

All i need to know to know that these dudes are clueless... 

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36 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

 

 

"The good news is that the former Wyoming quarterback has an above-average pass-blocking group in front of him, according to our pass block win rate metrics from NFL Next Gen Stats."

 

All i need to know to know that these dudes are clueless... 

Our oline hasn’t been nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be.  Good qbs make the oline look better. Bad qbs make the oline look worst.  See why Rob Johnson got sacked all the time while Flutie never got sacked behind the same line.

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Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

Our oline hasn’t been nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be.  Good qbs make the oline look better. Bad qbs make the oline look worst.  See why Rob Johnson got sacked all the time while Flutie never got sacked behind the same line.

 

They suck in the run game, but at times have been decent in Pass-Pro.

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26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

They suck in the run game, but at times have been decent in Pass-Pro.

I also believe the lack of speed at receiver makes running the ball that more difficult.  Defenses can just load the box and not worry about getting beaten deep.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I also believe the lack of speed at receiver makes running the ball that more difficult.  Defenses can just load the box and not worry about getting beaten deep.

 

No doubt that is a factor.  Much easiser to crown the LoS with no threat of the deep pass.

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NFL Week 10 QB Power Rankings: Midseason Most Valuable Player (aka Quarterback) candidates

 

by Will Brinson

 

Last week we mentioned in this space the Panthers were brewing up another MVP-caliber season from Cam Newton. Newton is definitely on the short list.

 

But why bother making it a short list for the MVP award? One quarter of the way into the season we did a full, long list of every starting quarterback in the NFL based on how we would put them in the current MVP standings.

 

Let's do the same at the arbitrary midpoint of the season as well; every team has played eight games now, so we have plenty to work with. So bear in mind the rankings this week are more cumulative based on how people have played over the course of a half season than it is reflective of who is playing well at this very moment. There's always a blend anyway, but this is highly specific about the criteria -- if there's anyone who only played a few games because of injury, they're going to be dinged. If your team looks like it might not make the playoffs at this point, you're gonna get dinged. 

 

Yell at me on Twitter @WillBrinson with your complaints, questions and (unlikely) compliments and make sure to check out my daily NFL podcast, the Pick Six Podcast, which you can subscribe to on iTunes here.

 

32	Nathan Peterman  BUFFALO BILLS QB
The least valuable quarterback in the history of football. It really feels like we're picking on him too much.

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QB INDEX

Biggest QB Surprises of the Season

Andrew Luck's return and young quarterbacks' domination have shocked the football world and Gregg Rosenthal this season. Here's why you should pay attention to these four names down the stretch.

 

NFL Week 11 QB Power Rankings: Why the Ravens need to turn to Lamar Jackson over Joe Flacco

Ranking every quarterback in the NFL 1-32 before Week 11 of the NFL season

 

by Will Brinson

 

It is crossroads time in Baltimore, with the Ravens sitting at 4-5, set to play a run of potential playoff teams with questionable defenses, and badly needing a win against the Bengals on Sunday to get back to .500 and try and save people's jobs/just make the playoffs. 

 

Which means it's Lamar Jackson time.

 

Joe Flacco is hurt -- he's battling a hip injury that could result in him just being questionable or missing up to a couple of weeks -- and Jackson is a first-round pick chosen to kickstart a new era for the franchise.

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'm in a similar boat to this point. My top 5 so far are Brees, Mahomes, Ryan, Goff, and Luck

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Ranking all 32 teams' quarterback play through Week 11 | NFL Analysis | Pro Football Focus

 

As we close the door on Week 11 in the NFL, it’s time to look at Pro Football Focus’ season grades for all 32 teams’ quarterback play so far this season. The best of the best have likely already punched their tickets to the playoffs, while the signal-callers nearing the middle of the pack and below have work to do in order to get back on track under center.

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so basically 2/3 of the NFL has at worst a decent QB

 

still waiting into almost 20 seasons...

 

 

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Why Drew Brees is Now the Prohibitive MVP Favorite; Plus, Updated QB Rankings

The longer this season goes, Drew Brees looks more and more like the best quarterback leading the best team in football. And that, Gregg Rosenthal writes, is why he's the prohibitive MVP favorite. Plus, updated quarterback rankings!

 

 

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