snafu Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 49 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Talking Heads are totally New Wave. They basically are the definition of New Wave. Along with Devo, Blondie... They invented the genre. I am bit confused, mystified by your statement they don't qualify. Huh?? The American New Wave scene... Like CBGB... That's ground zero for American New Wave & Talking Heads built the genre. I'm not too sure about that. Maybe it is just my perspective, but I thought new wave bands came in after disco died. That CBGB TH/Blondie thing pre-dates disco. But I really haven't taken the time to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, Tierlifer said: Duran Duran Yeah I should have included them as a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 New Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, snafu said: I'm not too sure about that. Maybe it is just my perspective, but I thought new wave bands came in after disco died. That CBGB TH/Blondie thing pre-dates disco. But I really haven't taken the time to look it up. No. Origins of New Wave predate Disco. The first wave... 1974-1975... https://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/287378.html The First Wave Origins of the First Wave: The CBGB Scene (1974-75) A dank dive with a notorious bathroom in the seedy Bowery, CBGB's was an altogether unlikely site for a major cultural movement. If it had not been for the physical collapse in August 1973 of the Mercer Art Center, home to the New York Dolls and other alternative bands, CBGB's would probably not have left any trace on the city's cultural history. The various art organizations that had occupied the Mercer, like the Kitchen, had no trouble relocating. But unrecorded rock bands found themselves without options in a nightclub scene geared mainly to showcasing nationally recognized recorded acts.... EDIT: I consider 1st Wave the start of New Wave... Guys like Bowie too. 25 minutes ago, row_33 said: New Order I stated Joy Division. It was a toss up for me. I went with Yaz. Edited August 29, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No. Origins of New Wave predate Disco. The first wave... 1974-1975... https://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/287378.html The First Wave Origins of the First Wave: The CBGB Scene (1974-75) A dank dive with a notorious bathroom in the seedy Bowery, CBGB's was an altogether unlikely site for a major cultural movement. If it had not been for the physical collapse in August 1973 of the Mercer Art Center, home to the New York Dolls and other alternative bands, CBGB's would probably not have left any trace on the city's cultural history. The various art organizations that had occupied the Mercer, like the Kitchen, had no trouble relocating. But unrecorded rock bands found themselves without options in a nightclub scene geared mainly to showcasing nationally recognized recorded acts.... I stated Joy Division. It was a toss up for me. I went with Yaz. Excellent choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Ramones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Hands down the Cure for me. Seen them live at least 7-8 times. First time was at a festival in Roskilde Denmark during the Disintegration tour. Last time was in Boston 2 years ago. Fantastic. For the record... The Cars are not a new wave band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, bdutton said: Hands down the Cure for me. Seen them live at least 7-8 times. First time was at a festival in Roskilde Denmark during the Disintegration tour. Last time was in Boston 2 years ago. Fantastic. For the record... The Cars are not a new wave band. You are blurring alternative. Cars are definitely New Wave. American New Wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You are blurring alternative. Cars are definitely New Wave. American New Wave. Its just an opinion but I consider the cars alt/pop along with Duran Duran. Joy Division, New Order, Psychedelic Furs, Devo, etc... are New Wave. The Cult are more Alt/Rock and Ramones punk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You are blurring alternative. Cars are definitely New Wave. American New Wave. New Wave rarely got top ten singles, more of a cult fan base. A few times things slipped through to AM radio charts (remember those?) CFNY brought a lot over from the UK that wasn’t going to make it big in North America Canadian Content law gave new wave fans a ton of great tunes as well thank goodness, life would have been even more wretched and boring growing up in the 80s without 102.1 Depeche Mode Japan Psychedelic Furs Edited August 29, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Saw David Byrne on tour a few weeks ago, a fun lovefest as he keeps going in his 60s, nice to have good concert memories 36 years apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, row_33 said: New Wave rarely got top ten singles, more of a cult fan base. A few times things slipped through to AM radio charts (remember those?) CFNY brought a lot over from the UK that wasn’t going to make it big in North America Canadian Content law gave new wave fans a ton of great tunes as well thank goodness, life would have been even more wretched and boring growing up in the 80s without 102.1 Depeche Mode Japan Psychedelic Furs Nick Lowe? The Knack? Elvis Costello & The Attractions all new wave & had hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You are blurring alternative. Cars are definitely New Wave. American New Wave. Also.. I should add that the Cure are hard to pin down to one style of music. They definitely had some New Wave style (Boys Don't Cry, Killing an Arab, 10:15, A Forest, Hanging Garden) but also some Alt Rock (Fascination Street, The Kiss, Cut) and even pop (Love Song, In Between Days, Just Like Heaven, Friday I'm in Love). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Nick Lowe? The Knack? Elvis Costello & The Attractions all new wave & had hits. Rarely was what I said.... the first two were one hit wonders.... they were half talent guitar acts with some synth.... Elvis was signed by Stiff and could experiment without trying for the charts, he liked it that way the best memories of the era was one extended 45 single flash in the pan i can name over 100 acts for you pretty quick.... Slicingupeyeballs.com is a great blog for lists and shows of this era Costello never had a hit in top 40, good Edited August 29, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: The Cult. Not New Wave by any stretch of the definition. Great band, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 In addition, the mass migration of UK families to Canada meant that a shortwave radio was present and the BBC and pirate bands were giving us a much better pop chart than the US every week for years on end The best memory is Rod Stewart crap was #1 in the US one week while the Beeb advised that this week’s highest riser was by the Sex Pistols and was not allowed to be played on the air. chasing that single down was a great moment when 12 years old The Cars... !@#$ no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: New Wave rarely got top ten singles, more of a cult fan base. A few times things slipped through to AM radio charts (remember those?) CFNY brought a lot over from the UK that wasn’t going to make it big in North America Canadian Content law gave new wave fans a ton of great tunes as well thank goodness, life would have been even more wretched and boring growing up in the 80s without 102.1 Depeche Mode Japan Psychedelic Furs CFNY was terrific. The format, the on-air talent (Dave Marsden, Chris Sheppard). They really were the Spirit of Radio in those days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 How about The Jam, The Style Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, Lurker said: Not New Wave by any stretch of the definition. Great band, however... Yeah, I was torn on that. I listed it as new wave since they are played on 1st Wave on Sirius XM. But I see your point since they are also on Ozzy's Boneyard. Not one particular genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The Jam: Paul Weller w/The Style Council: Indie which IMO feels New Wave, jangly... So much good music!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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