Lfod Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) The only QB that doesn't get my vote is AJMcarron. It's Peterman or Allen in my world. You seen what one bad game can do to the popular opinion. Edited August 29, 2018 by Lfod
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2018 Author Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:20 AM, Lfod said: The only QB that doesn't get my vote is AJMcarron. It's Peterman or Allen in my world. Expand A certain Alabama fan will not like this.
Soda Popinski Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 10:53 PM, PlayoffsPlease said: Reality check, if your third string qb is playing more than one game, your season is over. Expand the reality is you need 3 QBs if you don't have an Oline. 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 9:49 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/_mobileview/news/where-qb-competition-is-headed-going-into-final-preseason-week When you look across all three games to this point, including practice, but let's just take the games, he has shown that consistency, which is good to see," said McDermott. "A young player just in the start of his second season who has shown some poise and some understanding of how the NFL works in terms of defensive schemes. So I've watched him grow and develop, which is good to see. Still more work to do, but I think he has been consistent, which is important at the quarterback position." Expand Right. Like I said, he commented on the consistency and not who he was facing (which is fine). Some people (maybe even the coaches in private) are wondering whether Kawann Short and Dontari Poe playing would have effected the OL Play, and subsequently Nate's performance. Others mentioned that some starters in the secondary for Carolina also did not play. Now, this clearly isn't Nate's fault. He can't control who the other team fields. But when you're evaluating the QBs based on their level of competition, these things are potentially a factor.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) On 8/29/2018 at 12:42 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Right. Like I said, he commented on the consistency and not who he was facing (which is fine). Some people (maybe even the coaches in private) are wondering whether Kawann Short and Dontari Poe playing would have effected the OL Play, and subsequently Nate's performance. Others mentioned that some starters in the secondary for Carolina also did not play. Now, this clearly isn't Nate's fault. He can't control who the other team fields. But when you're evaluating the QBs based on their level of competition, these things are potentially a factor. Expand It looks as if you are being a bit stubborn. Why must McDermott mention the opposition? Isn't it obvious they played the opposition. everyone out there is playing for their jobs be it the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th lever players. The problem we all have here is we blur the lines. You want consistency. Consistency was fine with Tyrod and Orton and whomever we Bills fans thought would do good. Something we can't (or shouldn't be able to) blur. #1) Which QB(s) ran the best offense with the ones? 1 guy #2) Which QB(s) ran the best offense with the twos? 2 guys #3) Which QB(s) ran the best offense with the threes? same 2 guys as #2 Be glad Nate has improved and hope Josh learns fast. I'm a Josh Allen guy and I want him to be the starter. edited for clarity added (s) Edited August 29, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 3:21 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: It looks as if you are being a bit stubborn. Why must McDermott mention the opposition? Isn't it obvious they played the opposition. Expand I'm not saying McDermott should, publicly. I'm simply pointing out why you have folks mentioning that he hasn't actually faced a #1 D yet, which may or may not have impacted how he looked in game 1. You want to say Nate's the only one who looked good with our 1's? Fine. But you can still acknowledge that he didn't face a D at full strength and that the starting left tackle didn't play with Allen.
jrober38 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 3:26 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not saying McDermott should, publicly. I'm simply pointing out why you have folks mentioning that he hasn't actually faced a #1 D yet, which may or may not have impacted how he looked in game 1. You want to say Nate's the only one who looked good with our 1's? Fine. But you can still acknowledge that he didn't face a D at full strength and that the starting left tackle didn't play with Allen. Expand Seems like a stretch to discount what Peterman did against the Panthers when almost all of their starters were on the field while Peterman was in the game. 1
Bray Wyatt Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 3:35 PM, jrober38 said: Seems like a stretch to discount what Peterman did against the Panthers when almost all of their starters were on the field while Peterman was in the game. Expand Pretty sure Kawann Short and Kuechly didnt play (Not too sure but heard Dontari Poe didnt play either but someone else can confirm) So two of their DL and an all pro mlb didnt play, plus the corners were Kevon Seymour and a rookie
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 3:26 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not saying McDermott should, publicly. I'm simply pointing out why you have folks mentioning that he hasn't actually faced a #1 D yet, which may or may not have impacted how he looked in game 1. You want to say Nate's the only one who looked good with our 1's? Fine. But you can still acknowledge that he didn't face a D at full strength and that the starting left tackle didn't play with Allen. Expand Maybe I am misremembering... Who played against the starters in week 1 against Carolina's first team defense? Or are you saying Carolina rested their starters Benjamin caught four passes for 59 yards, including a 28-yard touchdown reception from Nathan Peterman on Buffalo's first possession. Benjamin scored by beating former Bills cornerback Kevon Seymour off the line, and was open when catching the pass at the 2 up the left sideline. Peterman, Buffalo's returning backup, went 9 of 10 for 119 yards and an interception over two drives. Free-agent addition A.J. McCarron went 7 of 10 for 116 yards in two drives to close the first half. Peterman and McCarron have split time with the starters all offseason. Rookie Josh Allen finished 9 of 19 for 116 yards, and hit Ray-Ray McCloud III for a 14-yard touchdown. And I never said Nate was the only one that looked good. That is an assumption on your part. Did I need to spell out who these two werer? #2) Which QB ran the best offense with the twos? 2 guys Josh looked very good in game 2. That showing made a lot of people giddy. He's a rookeis and with all rookies you get good and not so good. maybe I needed to make that Which QB(s)
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:09 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: Or are you saying Carolina rested their starters Expand Yes, some. On 8/29/2018 at 4:09 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: And I never said Nate was the only one that looked good. That is an assumption on your part. Expand but... On 8/29/2018 at 3:21 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: #1) Which QB(s) ran the best offense with the ones? 1 guy Expand
jrober38 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 3:58 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Pretty sure Kawann Short and Kuechly didnt play (Not too sure but heard Dontari Poe didnt play either but someone else can confirm) So two of their DL and an all pro mlb didnt play, plus the corners were Kevon Seymour and a rookie Expand Keuchly was 100% on the field. He and Thomas Davis were out there the whole time Peterman was. As I said, watch the highlights.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:19 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yes, some. but... Expand but nothing. You really need to move past my wanting Tyrod gone so we can move on. its not helping you holding on.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:38 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: but nothing. You really need to move past my wanting Tyrod gone so we can move on. its not helping you holding on. Expand So who was the 1 that did best with the ones? You want to deflect because of your previously awful takes, but this same page denial is pretty hilarious. Just to recap: On 8/29/2018 at 3:21 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: Something we can't (or shouldn't be able to) blur. #1) Which QB(s) ran the best offense with the ones? 1 guy Expand On 8/29/2018 at 3:26 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: You want to say Nate's the only one who looked good with our 1's? Fine. Expand On 8/29/2018 at 4:09 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: And I never said Nate was the only one that looked good. That is an assumption on your part. Expand
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:29 PM, jrober38 said: Keuchly was 100% on the field. He and Thomas Davis were out there the whole time Peterman was. As I said, watch the highlights. Expand not so sure about Kuechly being on the field play by play shows or at least he wasn't in the play by play S.Thompson M.Addison, M.Adams D.Jackson V.Butler T.Davis. D.Mayo On 8/29/2018 at 4:45 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: So who was the 1 that did best with the ones? You want to deflect because of your previously awful takes, but this same page denial is pretty hilarious. Just to recap: Expand Dude seriously. stop being so difficult. If you choose to argue just to argue find someone else.
jrober38 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:52 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: not so sure about Kuechly being on the field play by play shows or at least he wasn't in the play by play S.Thompson M.Addison, M.Adams D.Jackson V.Butler T.Davis. D.Mayo Expand Watch the highlights. #59 is on the field throughout the first quarter.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) On 8/29/2018 at 4:54 PM, jrober38 said: Watch the highlights. #59 is on the field throughout the first quarter. Expand My bad. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000946744/Panthers-vs-Bills-highlights-Preseason-Week-1 Right off the bat at t bottom of the screen -- why was Kuechly covering a WR? Edited August 29, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:52 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: Dude seriously. stop being so difficult. If you choose to argue just to argue find someone else. Expand I take it you disagree with that recap then and can't answer the question. That's fine.
Tatonka68 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 Whats worse Allen taking 5 sacks in the 1st half, or Petermen throwing 5 picks in the 1st half? All the Petermen followers say it was just 1 game, well it was just 1 game for Allen.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 5:02 PM, Tatonka68 said: Whats worse Allen taking 5 sacks in the 1st half, or Petermen throwing 5 picks in the 1st half? All the Petermen followers say it was just 1 game, well it was just 1 game for Allen. Expand I joked about that earlier and it was meant as a joke. Kids these days need to toughen up. (thats a joke too)
Bray Wyatt Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:29 PM, jrober38 said: Keuchly was 100% on the field. He and Thomas Davis were out there the whole time Peterman was. As I said, watch the highlights. Expand I stand corrected on the Keuchly part. Regardless no Short or Poe helps out our OL a bunch, plus their top corners were a rookie and Seymour. Cleveland and Cincy D's would grade as more difficult imo than that and should be taken into account when rating the performances against the 1's
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