NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Trade out for picks next year GET A FREAKING QB this year. There are many many 1st round QBs. If you cant trade up to get one either trade out for future picks or you better take a QB either at 12 or 22 The worst thing we can do is to take a QB for the sake of it. Didn't we learn from Ej? I want to trade up but its not looking good. I believe Aj McCarron has the same upside and even better then Rudolph and Lamar . Lets give McC a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Trade out for picks next year GET A FREAKING QB this year. There are many many 1st round QBs. If you cant trade up to get one either trade out for future picks or you better take a QB either at 12 or 22 I would have to think that this is Beane's plan: if, for whatever reason, he can't swing a deal with the Giants or Browns, then he'll stay at 12 and take Lamar Jackson. If, and it's a big IF, Mayfield or Allen fall to 12, one of them will be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, NastyNateSoldiers said: The worst thing we can do is to take a QB for the sake of it. Didn't we learn from Ej? I want to trade up but its not looking good. I believe Aj McCarron has the same upside and even better then Rudolph and Lamar . Lets give McC a chance. 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Trade out for picks next year GET A FREAKING QB this year. There are many many 1st round QBs. If you cant trade up to get one either trade out for future picks or you better take a QB either at 12 or 22 Let's say the Giants don't want to move and it goes this way Browns Darnold Giants Rosen Jets Mayfield Browns Barkley Broncos Allen There is no trade man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: The worst thing we can do is to take a QB for the sake of it. Didn't we learn from Ej? I want to trade up but its not looking good. I believe Aj McCarron has the same upside and even better then Rudolph and Lamar . Lets give McC a chance. I wonder if this is what the Rams and Eagles were thinking in 2016: let's see if Keenum and Bradford have any upside and build the defense. Edited March 20, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Let's say the Giants don't want to move and it goes this way Browns Darnold Giants Rosen Jets Mayfield Browns Barkley Broncos Allen There is no trade man! Right. I think people are not looking at realistic approach or open minded to things. Edited March 20, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I know i know we need a QB and I'm all for doing what it takes to trade up but its looking less and less likely that will happen. So with that being said who would like these pks if we can't trade up? Adding Edmunds & LVE would be huge for our Defense these guys are tackling machines that are sideline to sideline and both play with a major chip on they're shoulders there both big guys but have the speed and athleticism to cover bks and TEs with ease. Edmunds will play the strong and Vander Esch will man the middle these guys will give Mcd the Kuechly and Davis duo he's looking for in his Defense. I would be drooling over the possibilities for our Defense with Star and Kyle eating up blockers while these guys roam free to clean up the bones on the plate. Why reach for Mason or Lamar let's go with McCarron and load up on offensive pieces in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Who's in fellas, Why is it looking less likely? 27 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: If go this route. I'd trade for Nick Foles for 2 second rounds picks. Never heard if him;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Lamar u guys see those ducks he was throwing vs air at the combine? He's an area code passer never be consistent on NFL level. Plus he ain't getting 20 plus carries in the NFL that's not happening what's gonna happen to him when teams force him to be a QB? Disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Lamar u guys see those ducks he was throwing vs air at the combine? He's an area code passer never be consistent on NFL level. Plus he ain't getting 20 plus carries in the NFL that's not happening what's gonna happen to him when teams force him to be a QB? Disaster If Beane is able to make a trade with the Giants to take Rosen or Darnold, will you promise to leave this board forever and become a fan of the teams that draft Edmunds and Vander Esche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: We get Edmunds and Vander Esch this Defense will have the Ralph pumping on Sundays in the fall. The defence would be amazing with those two guys on the team. We would have a top 5 unit for sure. Plus we could still get a franchise QB named Mike White in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, billspro said: The defence would be amazing with those two guys on the team. We would have a top 5 unit for sure. Plus we could still get a franchise QB named Mike White in the second. Please don't post on this board ever again. This asinine statement has disqualified you from ever being taken seriously by anyone who understands what a franchise QB looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Please don't post on this board ever again. This asinine statement has disqualified you from ever being taken seriously by anyone who understands what a franchise QB looks like. Okay Mr. Crystal Ball, I have actually watched tape unlike yourself. White has a good chance, all of the tools are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, billspro said: Okay Mr. Crystal Ball, I have actually watched tape unlike yourself. White has a good chance, all of the tools are there. WEAKNESSES: Heavy feet take time to set up in the pocket. Struggled to deal with poor protection. Lacks feel for pressure off the edges and drops his eyes when he sees pocket push. Pocket mobility is poor. Was responsible for his share of the 46 sacks. Sluggish processor when initial reads are covered. Stayed on covered targets rather than finding better options. Relies too heavily on arm over anticipation. Looks lethargic when trying to roll and throw. Fumbled 12 times this year and 17 times over two seasons. BOTTOM LINE: White saw major downturns in every important passing category this year, but evaluators will have to balance his inconsistent play against the porous protection he got. White has good size and a live arm which is enough to get him drafted, but if he doesn't do a better job of recognizing blitzes and making decisions faster, his arm talent won't matter. White has QB3 potential with a shot to move up the ladder as a backup. Source: NFL.com Based on this, Mike White sounds like another Nathan Peterman who we already have on the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: If Beane is able to make a trade with the Giants to take Rosen or Darnold, will you promise to leave this board forever and become a fan of the teams that draft Edmunds and Vander Esche? Ok detective Bill. How bout u do some detective work and read what I've been saying. Ok DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: WEAKNESSES: Heavy feet take time to set up in the pocket. Struggled to deal with poor protection. Lacks feel for pressure off the edges and drops his eyes when he sees pocket push. Pocket mobility is poor. Was responsible for his share of the 46 sacks. Sluggish processor when initial reads are covered. Stayed on covered targets rather than finding better options. Relies too heavily on arm over anticipation. Looks lethargic when trying to roll and throw. Fumbled 12 times this year and 17 times over two seasons. BOTTOM LINE: White saw major downturns in every important passing category this year, but evaluators will have to balance his inconsistent play against the porous protection he got. White has good size and a live arm which is enough to get him drafted, but if he doesn't do a better job of recognizing blitzes and making decisions faster, his arm talent won't matter. White has QB3 potential with a shot to move up the ladder as a backup. Source: NFL.com Based on this, Mike White sounds like another Nathan Peterman who we already have on the roster. He had one of the worst lines in the country and a horrible WR core. He carried the team on his back last year. He was only sacked 17 times in 2016 when he had good protection. He does a very good job moving around the pocket but is a slow runner that can't escape when the pocket breaks down. He is also one of the few prospects in the class that throws with anticipation and accuracy. I think he will have a Matt Schaub type career. I would prefer to move up to the top three for a great QB prospect but if the Giants don't trade with us we are going to have to find a franchise QB out of the second tier guys, which is very possible in such a deep draft class. I would personally rather take a chance on one of the second tier guys rather than not take a QB prospect this year. I think we would all rather the Bills trade up but they might not have a trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, billspro said: He had one of the worst lines in the country and a horrible WR core. He carried the team on his back last year. He was only sacked 17 times in 2016 when he had good protection. He does a very good job moving around the pocket but is a slow runner that can't escape when the pocket breaks down. He is also one of the few prospects in the class that throws with anticipation and accuracy. I think he will have a Matt Schaub type career. I would prefer to move up to the top three for a great QB prospect but if the Giants don't trade with us we are going to have to find a franchise QB out of the second tier guys, which is very possible in such a deep draft class. I would personally rather take a chance on one of the second tier guys rather than not take a QB prospect this year. I think we would all rather the Bills trade up but they might not have a trade partner. billspro: Lookin' in your eyes I see a paradise This world that I've found is too good to be true Standin' here beside ya, want so much to give you This love in my heart that I'm feelin' for you Mike White: Let 'em say we're crazy, I don't care about that Put your hand in my hand, baby, don't ever look back Let the world around us just fall apart Baby, we can make it if we're heart-to-heart billspro and Mike: And we can build this dream together Standing strong forever Nothing's gonna stop us now And if this world runs out of lovers We'll still have each other Nothing's gonna stop us, nothing's gonna stop us now, whoa no billspro : I'm so glad I found you, I'm not gonna lose you Whatever it takes, I will stay here with you Take you to the good times, see you through the bad times Whatever it takes is what I'm gonna do Mike: Let 'em say we're crazy, what do they know? Put your arms around me, baby, don't ever let go Let the world around us just fall apart Baby, we can make it if we're heart-to-heart billspro and Mike: And we can build this dream together Standing strong forever Nothing's gonna stop us now And if this world runs out of lovers We'll still have each other Nothing's gonna stop us, nothing's gonna stop us, ooh billspro : All that I need is you Mike: All that I ever need billspro: All that I want to do billspro and Mike: Is hold you forever, forever and ever billspro and Mike: And we can build this dream together Standing strong forever Nothing's gonna stop us now And if this world runs out of lovers We'll still have each other Nothing's gonna stop us, nothing's gonna stop us billspro and Mike: And we can build this dream together Standing strong forever Nothing's gonna stop us now And if this world runs out of lovers We'll still have each other Nothing's gonna stop us, nothing's gonna stop us now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I know i know we need a QB and I'm all for doing what it takes to trade up but its looking less and less likely that will happen. So with that being said who would like these pks if we can't trade up? Adding Edmunds & LVE would be huge for our Defense these guys are tackling machines that are sideline to sideline and both play with a major chip on they're shoulders there both big guys but have the speed and athleticism to cover bks and TEs with ease. Edmunds will play the strong and Vander Esch will man the middle these guys will give Mcd the Kuechly and Davis duo he's looking for in his Defense. I would be drooling over the possibilities for our Defense with Star and Kyle eating up blockers while these guys roam free to clean up the bones on the plate. Why reach for Mason or Lamar let's go with McCarron and load up on offensive pieces in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Who's in fellas, I can see taking one of them but not both, as think Edmunds at 12 is feasible yet #22 would be Rudolph if he's still on the board or maybe a developmental guy like Taven Bryan to play behind Kyle this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: We had awesome defenses in 2013 and 2014, but still finished below or barely above .500 with no playoffs. Know why? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T (AND STILL DON'T) HAVE A QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't bother the Bills management in prior years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I know i know we need a QB and I'm all for doing what it takes to trade up but its looking less and less likely that will happen. So with that being said who would like these pks if we can't trade up? Adding Edmunds & LVE would be huge for our Defense these guys are tackling machines that are sideline to sideline and both play with a major chip on they're shoulders there both big guys but have the speed and athleticism to cover bks and TEs with ease. Edmunds will play the strong and Vander Esch will man the middle these guys will give Mcd the Kuechly and Davis duo he's looking for in his Defense. I would be drooling over the possibilities for our Defense with Star and Kyle eating up blockers while these guys roam free to clean up the bones on the plate. Why reach for Mason or Lamar let's go with McCarron and load up on offensive pieces in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Who's in fellas, Terrible moves. Will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I know i know we need a QB and I'm all for doing what it takes to trade up but its looking less and less likely that will happen. So with that being said who would like these pks if we can't trade up? Adding Edmunds & LVE would be huge for our Defense these guys are tackling machines that are sideline to sideline and both play with a major chip on they're shoulders there both big guys but have the speed and athleticism to cover bks and TEs with ease. Edmunds will play the strong and Vander Esch will man the middle these guys will give Mcd the Kuechly and Davis duo he's looking for in his Defense. I would be drooling over the possibilities for our Defense with Star and Kyle eating up blockers while these guys roam free to clean up the bones on the plate. Why reach for Mason or Lamar let's go with McCarron and load up on offensive pieces in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Who's in fellas, I'm good with not going QB in the first round if that's what the FO decides for whatever reason. Taking a second tier prospect in the 2nd or even later might pay bigger dividends than reaching for an over-hyped flawed prospect in the first, especially if the Bills bolster the D, OL, and WRs with all those extra picks. Taking a QB later worked pretty well for Cinci in 2011, Seattle and Washington in 2012, and Oakland in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Trade out for picks next year GET A FREAKING QB this year. There are many many 1st round QBs. If you cant trade up to get one either trade out for future picks or you better take a QB either at 12 or 22 If we can't get up to the Giants pick for Rosen, I'd rather trade back and get in the drew locke sweepstakes in next year's draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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