pennstate10 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: 2 out of your 3 were not considered Top Prospects going into the draft. do you see what I’m saying? Okay going to try one more time. i am excluding QBs who are “the man” for their team now because they were not considered generally to be TOP PROSPECTS going into the draft. how do I put this...don’t look at what happened. Look at what was. the only way to get Cam Newton was to be the worst team in the league the prior season or trade with Carolina. Only way. newton was the Top Prospect. You couldn’t wait for him to slide or anything else. if you tell me you don’t want to trade up for a QB this season. The only way you are getting the TOP RATED College QBs in 2019 is being bad or trading being bad or trading. the bills will not be 9-7 in 2018 and simply have the top QB Prospect fall to them. Actually, Brees and Rodgers were both considered top QB prospects. Brees was the 2nd QB chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Exactly the contrary. Your argument was weak to begin with and has been refuted by multiple examples in this very thread. Refuted by people who think Brady and Wilson and Brees were top prospects going into the draft. All wrong. as you are. Btw you BEEBE May work with Reich in Indy? Relationshiiiiips. tell ou what champ. Beside not to debate me. We don’t know each other but something about you should know... i dont start a battle unless it’s already won on my end. thats a free one sport. 1 minute ago, pennstate10 said: Actually, Brees and Rodgers were both considered top QB prospects. Brees was the 2nd QB chosen. In the 2nd round. Doesn’t qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Refuted by people who think Brady and Wilson and Brees were top prospects going into the draft. All wrong. as you are. Btw you BEEBE May work with Reich in Indy? Relationshiiiiips. tell ou what champ. Beside not to debate me. We don’t know each other but something about you should know... i dont start a battle unless it’s already won on my end. thats a free one sport. So you believe in what you post regardless of any real evidence to the contrary. Nice to know. Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Carson Wentz all say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: So you believe in what you post regardless of any real evidence to the contrary. Nice to know. You want to go on record and say Brady and Wilson were top prospects? you already want to say relationships don’t mean anything in the NFL. and you further compound by saying the TOP QBs in the draft will simply fall to teams later in the draft. lol. what else do you want to roll out. First impressions. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You want to go on record and say Brady and Wilson were top prospects? you already want to say relationships don’t mean anything in the NFL. and you further compound by saying the TOP QBs in the draft will simply fall to teams later in the draft. lol. what else do you want to roll out. First impressions. Wow! As I added: Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Carson Wentz all say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: As I added: Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Carson Wentz all say hello. Wentz had to be traded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Refuted by people who think Brady and Wilson and Brees were top prospects going into the draft. All wrong. as you are. Btw you BEEBE May work with Reich in Indy? Relationshiiiiips. tell ou what champ. Beside not to debate me. We don’t know each other but something about you should know... i dont start a battle unless it’s already won on my end. thats a free one sport. In the 2nd round. Doesn’t qualify. Gotcha. 2nd round draft picks dont count. Not that I think Kiper is a great talent evaluator, but he has cultivated very good sources over the past 30 years. Brees was the 2nd rated QB On Kipers big board in 2001. Carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Wentz had to be traded for. That doesn't support your point of suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't support your point of suffering. Trading away a lot of assets to move up sounds like suffering to many fans around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Trading away a lot of assets to move up sounds like suffering to many fans around here. I'm sure the Eagles and their fans are full of lament. Keep shifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm sure the Eagles and their fans are full of lament. Keep shifting. No shifting. The whole thread was based on trading up or being bad You just missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Prospects don't matter. Performance once you're in the league does. So the premise of the thread is kind of wacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: So you believe in what you post regardless of any real evidence to the contrary. Nice to know. You want to go on record and say Brady and Wilson were top prospects? you already want to say relationships don’t mean anything in the NFL. and you further compound by saying the TOP QBs in the draft will simply fall to teams later in the draft. lol. what else do you want to roll out. First impressions. Wow! Funny the quoted coming from a guy who believes everything he says is 100 % w/o fallacy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: No shifting. The whole thread was based on trading up or being bad You just missed it. I didn't miss it I gave you Big Ben and Rodgers to refute your scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm sure the Eagles and their fans are full of lament. Keep shifting. Just for argument's sake, what if Carson Wentz did not pan out? How do you think Eagles fans would react...would the city of Philly still be standing? If you're going to move up that much (which I am against), you better be completely positive of what you're getting, which is almost impossible if you subscribe to most QBs as being a crapshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Just for argument's sake, what if Carson Wentz did not pan out? How do you think Eagles fans would react...would the city of Philly still be standing? If you're going to move up that much (which I am against), you better be completely positive of what you're getting, which is almost impossible if you subscribe to most QBs as being a crapshoot. You can't make a shot you are too scared to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Just for argument's sake, what if Carson Wentz did not pan out? How do you think Eagles fans would react...would the city of Philly still be standing? If you're going to move up that much (which I am against), you better be completely positive of what you're getting, which is almost impossible if you subscribe to most QBs as being a crapshoot. How dare you use logic to win an argument! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You can't make a shot you are too scared to take. Point taken. Question: how do you view the Sammy Watkins trade up, was it worth it? IMO, there is no difference, aside from position, between that and trading up for a QB. Edited February 25, 2018 by Happy Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Point taken. Question: how do you view the Sammy Watkins trade, was it worth it? IMO, there is no difference, aside from position, between that trade and trading up for a QB. They didn’t get their money’s worth imo. Sammy is good not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Point taken. Question: how do you view the Sammy Watkins trade, was it worth it? IMO, there is no difference, aside from position, between that trade and trading up for a QB. In hindsight it wasn't, but you are fully cognizant that the QB position is in a category all by itself at the NFL level. Gotta have one if you want long term viability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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