hondo in seattle Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Lots of sportswriters write a lot about nothing. There's always something to talk about, even when there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: You don't move up to take a guy just to say you took a guy. You move up if you think he's the QB that is the guy for the next 10-15 years, the guy that can lead a team to a championship. You ask what's wrong with taking a chance? Because you'd potentially waste a lot of picks if you're wrong. If they think say Darnold is that kind of guy, then they should move up and do what's needed to get him. If not they shouldn't. And if they take that chance and it doesn't work (as happens about 50% of time with round 1 QBs) I won't then blast them for doing so. Can you say the same? Obviously I dont want them to trade up for a guy that they do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) For all the we aren’t just a qb away crew, what are you guys talking about ? We held the jags to 10 points and should have advanced to the next round of playoffs. That didn’t happen because we need a QB who can do more than “protect the football” Qb away is far and away the answer here, other pieces can be addressed with the rest of the picks. We have a lot of them. Edited February 10, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 There might not be a whole lot to talk about, but maybe that's because the Bills as an organization has a sh_tload if work to DO. The Eagles just showed us up by demonstrating what it takes to knock off NE... You need a coach who's willing to take chances (and knows when to take those chances) You need a QB that can perform at a high level, and isn't scared of the moment. You need an offense that can vary it's tempo and weaponry. And you need a defense that can deliver big plays when needed. Did I leave anything out?.... If I did, please let me know what it is... The last thing I want to hear from OBD next season is excuses why we didn't win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, #34fan said: There might not be a whole lot to talk about, but maybe that's because the Bills as an organization has a sh_tload if work to DO. The Eagles just showed us up by demonstrating what it takes to knock off NE... You need a coach who's willing to take chances (and knows when to take those chances) You need a QB that can perform at a high level, and isn't scared of the moment. You need an offense that can vary it's tempo and weaponry. And you need a defense that can deliver big plays when needed. Did I leave anything out?.... If I did, please let me know what it is... The last thing I want to hear from OBD next season is excuses why we didn't win the division. That's all correct, but there's not much to say about any of that just yet. We don't know who the QB is going to be, and it's very difficult to speculate about QB play if you don't know who the guy is. We don't know what the offense will look like, so it's almost impossible to talk about improvements. Defense? Yup, it has to be better. But there's not much to say about it - maybe some talk about guys who are likely to be available in free agency. Beyond that, the draft is completely speculative right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Shaw66 said: In my mind, spending a bundle on Cousins is taking a big risk just like trading up and going after a rookie. Last times Bills took risks like that was Bledsoe then Losman. Now, you may say that Cousins isn't the prom queen, but I beg to differ. Beauty is in the eye etc., and Cousins may be the kind of gal that gets McD's juices flowing. I don't want to think too much about McD's juices. That leads to puns about "Kissin Cousins", Crossman's remark about his "fabulous loving touch", and why nobody will actually come out and say what "the process" actually is, and then it goes downhill from there. But in my mind Cousins isn't as big of a gamble as he may appear. I will be making a big post about Qbs including aspects of that which few will read and no one will agree with, sometime in the next while when I get the ambition to write it. In short though I would be ok if they went and got Cousins. So long as the use the picks to get him a top notch line. And I will be ok if they trade a bunch of picks to get a guy in the draft that they like. So long as he doesn't turn out to have EXACTLY the long term shortcomings that the scouting reports say he has. That bugs me. But a if they trade a host of picks for a guy with a legit 50/50 chance, I am ok with that. 4 hours ago, #34fan said: There might not be a whole lot to talk about, but maybe that's because the Bills as an organization has a sh_tload if work to DO. The Eagles just showed us up by demonstrating what it takes to knock off NE... You need a coach who's willing to take chances (and knows when to take those chances) You need a QB that can perform at a high level, and isn't scared of the moment. You need an offense that can vary it's tempo and weaponry. And you need a defense that can deliver big plays when needed. Did I leave anything out?.... If I did, please let me know what it is... The last thing I want to hear from OBD next season is excuses why we didn't win the division. Yes. The Eagles had two Qb's who can play. That is why they were not finished when their starter went down. No Foles = no championship for them. The Vikings had Keenum who filled in for Bradford who was filling in for Bridgewater. The Raiders had one starter and our former starter as backup, "all in with EJ" which is why they were done when Carr went down. The Bills have no starter at all. Im am hoping the Bills stop being the stupidest team in the NFL. Edited February 11, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Yes. The Eagles had two Qb's who can play. That is why they were not finished when their starter went down. No Foles = no championship for them. The Vikings had Keenum who filled in for Bradford who was filling in for Bridgewater. The Raiders had one starter and our former starter as backup, "all in with EJ" which is why they were done when Carr went down. The Bills have no starter at all. Im am hoping the Bills stop being the stupidest team in the NFL. Veteran Journeyman QB's? -I have zero problem with that. -As long as their name doesn't begin with Tyrod, and end with Taylor... Besides, can we even trust this Daboll character with a young QB? -What's his vision in that regard?... Let's see what shakes out between the Bengals and AJ McCarron, then make a move... I don't particularly like what I see from this crop of alleged 1st round QB's... If we're not taking Darnold, I say don't even bother... You can grab a kid like Mike White in the 4th... Even take a small risk on TCU's Kenny Hill as a UFA!... D-line and LB seems to be what's biting in the early rounds... Why reach for what ain't there? Edited February 11, 2018 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, #34fan said: Veteran Journeyman QB's? -I have zero problem with that. -As long as their name doesn't begin with Tyrod, and end with Taylor... Besides, can we even trust this Daboll character with a young QB? -What's his vision in that regard?... Let's see what shakes out between the Bengals and AJ McCarron, then make a move... I don't particularly like what I see from this crop of alleged 1st round QB's... If we're not taking Darnold, I say don't even bother... You can grab a kid like Mike White in the 4th... Even take a small risk on TCU's Kenny Hill as a UFA!... D-line and LB seems to be what's biting in the early rounds... Why reach for what ain't there? If you are right I agree with you I don' know much about this crop of Qbs because I haven't watched much college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 We need a player to get pulled over drunk, get in a bar fight, or get caught with a gun in his car! Marshawn is too long gone. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: We need a player to get pulled over drunk, get in a bar fight, or get caught with a gun in his car! Marshawn is too long gone. Good times. EXACTLY!. Marshawn and Marcel always gave us things to talk about in the off-season. 14 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I don't want to think too much about McD's juices. That leads to puns about "Kissin Cousins", Crossman's remark about his "fabulous loving touch", and why nobody will actually come out and say what "the process" actually is, and then it goes downhill from there. But in my mind Cousins isn't as big of a gamble as he may appear. I will be making a big post about Qbs including aspects of that which few will read and no one will agree with, sometime in the next while when I get the ambition to write it. In short though I would be ok if they went and got Cousins. So long as the use the picks to get him a top notch line. And I will be ok if they trade a bunch of picks to get a guy in the draft that they like. So long as he doesn't turn out to have EXACTLY the long term shortcomings that the scouting reports say he has. That bugs me. But a if they trade a host of picks for a guy with a legit 50/50 chance, I am ok with that. Yes. The Eagles had two Qb's who can play. That is why they were not finished when their starter went down. No Foles = no championship for them. First, I hope people here are tuning into your humor. It's fabulous. I love being your straight man - one mention of juices off you go!. Great stuff. And I'm glad we agree about he QB. I think what you say is right - I think the Bills have to take the Big Chance, whatever they think it is. Sitting around and waiting for lightning to strike in the fourth round isn't a smart move. I think Cousins is the right Big Chance to take, because I think the future in the NFL - next five years or so - will require a good but not necessarily great QB. What will be needed is a coach-on-the-field type guy with solid physical skills. I'd love to have a Hall of Famer, but I don't think it's necessary. But if McBeane don't agree with that conclusion, I'm fine, like you, so long as they do SOMETHING to get good enough at that position. I don't like trading up, and I don't think McBeane like it either, but if they see the right guy, then they should go get him. And I love and agree with the idea that it's okay for the guy they pick to fail, so long as he doesn't fail for exactly the reason that the scouting reports say he'll fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Better where? On the field. Football's about coaching. McDermott will be a better coach in his second season as HC. His defense will be better by virtue of knowing the system. His offense may not be better, but the good news is that it can't be a LOT worse. I fully expect the Bills to be 8-8 or better. ESPN predicts the over-under for Buffalo is 7 wins. I'm definitely taking the over on that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: On the field. Football's about coaching. McDermott will be a better coach in his second season as HC. His defense will be better by virtue of knowing the system. His offense may not be better, but the good news is that it can't be a LOT worse. I fully expect the Bills to be 8-8 or better. ESPN predicts the over-under for Buffalo is 7 wins. I'm definitely taking the over on that one. Wonder if they are basing that off of Taylor being the starter? Anyway I'm a Cousins hopeful myself, and if they can get him in Buffalo I would guess 10 wins, so definitely over for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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