BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 No, because it was proven true. Opinions supported by facts are all that we ask for. Rex took the #2 DVOA defense and brought them to 24 & 27. He leaves and they are right near the top. That supports that he was awful. And Tyrod Taylor's league leading time to throw for the last two seasons doesn't support his hesistancy to throw the football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Well if you look since the Bills last playoff appearance many years started well and (2-2 or better) and slowly reality sunk in.... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2000.htm Go ahead Bills, prove me wrong....... Just seen this story played out over and over...... We never had two wins in a row like this.Atlanta and Denver are quality competition. Winning in Atlanta is a tremendous victory for any team. Plus the Coaching and QB are better than those past teams. The offense still doesn't turn the ball over, with this defense. That is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 No, because it was proven true. Opinions supported by facts are all that we ask for. Rex took the #2 DVOA defense and brought them to 24 & 27. He leaves and they are right near the top. That supports that he was awful. And this year the Offense is even worse. Add to that near the bottom in Time of Possession. Thankful for turnovers and that 7:30 fourth quarter drive vs. Denver (and the Von Miller penalty). Actually incredible as they are a run first team, which should chew up the clock...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And this year the Offense is even worse. Add to that near the bottom in Time of Possession. Thankful for turnovers and that 7:30 fourth quarter drive vs. Denver (and the Von Miller penalty). Actually incredible as they are a run first team, which should chew up the clock...... And that long drive this week in the 3rd/4th... think it was 11 minutes of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And Tyrod Taylor's league leading time to throw for the last two seasons doesn't support his hesistancy to throw the football? The Bills are now 18-15 when he plays. Imagine the last two seasons with a better defense. But keep on with the agenda. Bills could win their first playoff game with him, but pass for 200 yards and you still wouldn't be happy. How many QBs could get more from the offense we have at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The Bills are now 18-15 when he plays. Imagine the last two seasons with a better defense. But keep on with the agenda. Bills could win their first playoff game with him, but pass for 200 yards and you still wouldn't be happy. How many QBs could get more from the offense we have at WR. Are you intentionally being irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And Tyrod Taylor's league leading time to throw for the last two seasons doesn't support his hesistancy to throw the football? That stat correlates very strongly with mobile QBs. That shouldn't be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And Tyrod Taylor's league leading time to throw for the last two seasons doesn't support his hesistancy to throw the football? It supports that he extends plays with his feet rather than giving up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 It supports that he extends plays with his feet rather than giving up on them. Depends on what argument you're making, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 And that long drive this week in the 3rd/4th... think it was 11 minutes of game time. I forgot that and still lost TOP....... Again very happy with the record, just not getting ahead of myself........ Tell you what if they make the playoffs and win throwing for less then 200 I'll be okay. BTW were you defending Rob Johnson the last time the Bills made the playoffs and he put up 132 yards passing, because he left the field with the lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Depends on what argument you're making, I suppose. No, it really doesn't. To support your argument you would need to look at time in the pocket, which is different than the stat you are trying to use. Edited October 3, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Are you intentionally being irrelevant? I'll give you credit. Most of the agenda people have been silent last week and now. You still continue your rampage. Have to give points for determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 No, it really doesn't. To support your argument you would need to look at time in the pocket, which is different than the stat you are trying to use. Where does Tyrod rank in that stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Where does Tyrod rank in that stat? I don't know. It's not something that is traditionally tracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I don't know. It's not something that is traditionally tracked. Well until that day, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) And Tyrod Taylor's league leading time to throw for the last two seasons doesn't support his hesistancy to throw the football?He's been top 10 in QBR since he has been a starter. And no it doesn't support hesitancy because he's a different player. He has runs in the middle of his progressions and the Bills run a zillion RPOs. He's asked to do different things than Mike Glennon. Time to throw isn't really a big factor to include at all when thinking about Tyrod or any mobile QB. Edited October 3, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 BTW were you defending Rob Johnson the last time the Bills made the playoffs and he put up 132 yards passing, because he left the field with the lead? I wasn't an NFL fan then. I have never seen the Bills make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Hes been top 10 in QBR since he haven a starter. And no it doesn't support hesitancy because he's a different player. He has run in the middle of his progressions and the Bills run a zillion RPOs. He's asked to do different things than Mike Glennon. Time to throw isn't really a big factor to include at all when thinking about Tyrod or any mobile QB. Are you trying to one up JM2009's irrelevant stat game or? How else would you measure pass hesistancy besides Time to Throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 I wasn't an NFL fan then. I have never seen the Bills make the playoffs. Too bad, may have been one of the most assinine discussion threads ever....... Doug Flutie pulled (many say by the owner's proclomation) for the playoff game. The Defense played maybe the best game I've ever seen, making up for Rob Johnson's ineptitude on offense. Rob Johnson should never have started the game and was just terrible, but many argued that he left the field leading and his 60 minutes of lousy play didn't contribute to the loss........ Much like the offense being near the bottom this year, but the Bills being 3-1...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Are you trying to one up JM2009's irrelevant stat game or? How else would you measure pass hesistancy besides Time to Throw? Missed receivers, there is a thread every week on here where every pass play is charted. I suggest that you utilize that. How many plays were missed is charted here. I saw 1 this week and 1 last week. There may be more but I don't break down the all 22s. Every mobile QB is high though because they make guys miss and keep plays along. That's common sense. Edited October 3, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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