Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Everyone should just make a simple a or b choice. I'll start. I think I am right, but I also think it's more important that other people can have different experiences and ideas. I know that's completely nuts but that's how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 With such an obvious choice, I'm interested to see what point you're going to make with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Everyone should just make a simple a or b choice. I'll start. I think I am right, but I also think it's more important that other people can have different experiences and ideas. I know that's completely nuts but that's how I feel. And what do you think you are right about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 And what do you think you are right about? Nothing. I think my opinion is right or I wouldn't have it. But I also think I easily could be wrong when provided more valid information. Everyone basically thinks they are right within those parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It is legal for me to tell my boss to go suck a lemon and twerk through the hallway. But I doubt I would be employed afterward. Maybe there should be a third option on this poll. Doesn't seem like a 'A' or 'B' type question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 With such an obvious choice, I'm interested to see what point you're going to make with this. Anyone bitching that players kneeling is unAmerican, or is somehow disgracing the flag by kneeling is unAmerican, or other people that have a different life experience with or opinion on racism is wrong, or who genuinely believe this is a systemic problem is being an idiot. It is legal for me to tell my boss to go suck a lemon and twerk through the hallway. But I doubt I would be employed afterward. Maybe there should be a third option on this poll. Doesn't seem like a 'A' or 'B' type question. I think anyone can tell their boss to go suck a lemon or twerk through the hallway. You would just be a moron but I doubt anything would happen to you. Sure it's an A or B option. People that believe players can think and believe and say what they want if they don't hurt anyone, which the NFL clearly believes, too. And those that want others to believe only what they believe. It's rather obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone bitching that players kneeling is unAmerican, or is somehow disgracing the flag by kneeling is unAmerican, or other people that have a different life experience with or opinion on racism is wrong, or who genuinely believe this is a systemic problem is being an idiot. I think anyone can tell their boss to go suck a lemon or twerk through the hallway. You would just be a moron but I doubt anything would happen to you. What job do you work at that you would still keep your job? Fortune 500 no doubt🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 What job do you work at that you would still keep your job? Fortune 500 no doubt If you would be fired for telling your boss to "suck a lemon" I would advise getting a different job. Not that anyone in this scenario are doing anything remotely close to that. I work for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone bitching that players kneeling is unAmerican, or is somehow disgracing the flag by kneeling is unAmerican, or other people that have a different life experience with or opinion on racism is wrong, or who genuinely believe this is a systemic problem is being an idiot. I think anyone can tell their boss to go suck a lemon or twerk through the hallway. You would just be a moron but I doubt anything would happen to you. Sure it's an A or B option. People that believe players can think and believe and say what they want if they don't hurt anyone, which the NFL clearly believes, too. And those that want others to believe only what they believe. It's rather obvious. so this was a loaded question! Who knew?! They can think/believe whatever they want. But they represent the NFL/team shield when in uniform. It's idiotic the NFL lets them get away with this, and I can almost guarantee they will see an adverse effect on their viewership/profits. They have a right to take a stand, but the owners also have a right to fire an employee who is being a dumba$$ Anyone bitching that players kneeling is unAmerican, or is somehow disgracing the flag by kneeling is unAmerican, or other people that have a different life experience with or opinion on racism is wrong, or who genuinely believe this is a systemic problem is being an idiot. I think anyone can tell their boss to go suck a lemon or twerk through the hallway. You would just be a moron but I doubt anything would happen to you. Sure it's an A or B option. People that believe players can think and believe and say what they want if they don't hurt anyone, which the NFL clearly believes, too. And those that want others to believe only what they believe. It's rather obvious. so this was a loaded question! Who knew?! They can think/believe whatever they want. But they represent the NFL/team shield when in uniform. It's idiotic the NFL lets them get away with this, and I can almost guarantee they will see an adverse effect on their viewership/profits. They have a right to take a stand, but the owners also have a right to fire an employee who is being a dumba$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) One answer is best for the country. The other answer is fair and American. Edited September 25, 2017 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 so this was a loaded question! Who knew?! They can think/believe whatever they want. But they represent the NFL/team shield when in uniform. It's idiotic the NFL lets them get away with this, and I can almost guarantee they will see an adverse effect on their viewership/profits. They have a right to take a stand, but the owners also have a right to fire an employee who is being a dumba$$ so this was a loaded question! Who knew?! They can think/believe whatever they want. But they represent the NFL/team shield when in uniform. It's idiotic the NFL lets them get away with this, and I can almost guarantee they will see an adverse effect on their viewership/profits. They have a right to take a stand, but the owners also have a right to fire an employee who is being a dumba$$ And yet no owner will. None. Zero. What does that tell you? That they support free speech? That they understand there is a race problem in the country? That they are capable of empathy? That they agree with their players and refute you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If you would be fired for telling your boss to "suck a lemon" I would advise getting a different job. Not that anyone in this scenario are doing anything remotely close to that. I work for myself. Since you seem to support these protests, what injustices are they protesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Since you seem to support these protests, what injustices are they protesting? If you would take the time to actually read what Kaepernick is doing and why he is doing it it would be obvious. You will deny its existence of course, which is exactly why I made the thread and poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If you would take the time to actually read what Kaepernick is doing and why he is doing it it would be obvious. You will deny its existence of course, which is exactly why I made the thread and poll.So you don't know and want to blame the boogey man. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone bitching that players kneeling is unAmerican, or is somehow disgracing the flag by kneeling is unAmerican, or other people that have a different life experience with or opinion on racism is wrong, or who genuinely believe this is a systemic problem is being an idiot. I think anyone can tell their boss to go suck a lemon or twerk through the hallway. You would just be a moron but I doubt anything would happen to you. Sure it's an A or B option. People that believe players can think and believe and say what they want if they don't hurt anyone, which the NFL clearly believes, too. And those that want others to believe only what they believe. It's rather obvious. See, the problem with this is we are only being spoon fed their side of the story. No one else, say a Police union group or something is allowed to stage a counter protest. Why should we just accept this ? It seems unamerican to not allow a counter protest. Good luck with getting approval for that. The players can believe what they want. I don't want to see it , hear it whatever. So why turn a football game into a political discourse exercise? Just move the players inside during the anthem like it used to be. Much better that way if they just want to take a unifying thing like the anthem and make it a divisive one. Keep them in the locker room until after or eliminate the anthem altogether. If you would take the time to actually read what Kaepernick is doing and why he is doing it it would be obvious. You will deny its existence of course, which is exactly why I made the thread and poll. I do not care what Kaepernick is doing or why he is doing it . He thinks Police officers are placed on admistratrative paid leave as " punishment". The guy is a simpleton. And yet no owner will. None. Zero. What does that tell you? That they support free speech? That they understand there is a race problem in the country? That they are capable of empathy? That they agree with their players and refute you? These owners have really painted themselves into a corner by allowing this nonsense in the first place. Now they have a fine line to walk between ticking off their idiot employees and some fans. Of course they are going to close ranks , " unify" and tweet platitudes. It's total garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 See, the problem with this is we are only being spoon fed their side of the story. No one else, say a Police union group or something is allowed to stage a counter protest. Why should we just accept this ? It seems unamerican to not allow a counter protest. Good luck with getting approval for that. The players can believe what they want. I don't want to see it , hear it whatever. So why turn a football game into a political discourse exercise? Just move the players inside during the anthem like it used to be. Much better that way if they just want to take a unifying thing like the anthem and make it a divisive one. Keep them in the locker room until after or eliminate the anthem altogether. I do not care what Kaepernick is doing or why he is doing it . He thinks Police officers are placed on admistratrative paid leave as " punishment". The guy is a simpleton. These owners have really painted themselves into a corner by allowing this nonsense in the first place. Now they have a fine line to walk between ticking off their idiot employees and some fans. Of course they are going to close ranks , " unify" and tweet platitudes. It's total garbage. By saying Kaepernick is a simpleton you have shown you know nothing about this. Zero. And you embarrass yourself further by saying you don't even care what he says. And I'm not even in favor of him. I think he's wrong. You're just an ass because you refuse to try to understand why people think different. Which, again, is the purpose of the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Everyone should just make a simple a or b choice. I'll start. I think I am right, but I also think it's more important that other people can have different experiences and ideas. I know that's completely nuts but that's how I feel. Please, change that silly photo. It makes me want to kick a dog, and bothers me more than McD's clapping. Thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 By saying Kaepernick is a simpleton you have shown you know nothing about this. Zero. And you embarrass yourself further by saying you don't even care what he says. And I'm not even in favor of him. I think he's wrong. You're just an ass because you refuse to try to understand why people think different. Which, again, is the purpose of the poll. Sorry Kelly. The comment that Kaepernick made publicly about " paid leave" showed his lack of knowledge on the very thing he was protesting about. That made him a simpleton in my book. I really don't care what he says because I know enough about it to say I don't agree with it at all. I understand why he thinks what he thinks ( he is ill informed for starters) , but I know he is pretty much incorrect. I actually know quite a bit about it. I'm not embarrassed about it at all. There is likely no changing his mind and I don't care to. I just don't want to hear his opinion or any other players that think like him. I don't think it makes me an ass. Do you see any counter protestors next to these guys? They're likely not interested in my rebuttal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 By saying Kaepernick is a simpleton you have shown you know nothing about this. Zero. And you embarrass yourself further by saying you don't even care what he says. And I'm not even in favor of him. I think he's wrong. You're just an ass because you refuse to try to understand why people think different. Which, again, is the purpose of the poll. No, the purpose of your poll was to be devisive. You wanted to say, either you're a fascist or believe in free speech. And if you believe in free speech, you support these players. But this situation is a lot more complex than that, and yes, Kap is an idiot. So is his racist/hate filled girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 By saying Kaepernick is a simpleton you have shown you know nothing about this. Zero. And you embarrass yourself further by saying you don't even care what he says. And I'm not even in favor of him. I think he's wrong. You're just an ass because you refuse to try to understand why people think different. Which, again, is the purpose of the poll. He is pretty sophisticated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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