section122 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It is my understanding that he will be eligible for the NBA draft upon completion of the G League season and after turning 19. It was also just brought to my attention that those agent “loans” are now legal, and he likely is being paid handsomely by someone for making this move. This is what kids should be doing if they want to go pro. Don't do the sham commit, barely scrape by 1st semester, never attend 2nd semester, then declare. I like that this is available. Sucks that it burned Cuse but I like the idea for the player in general. Even though it isn't a ton of money it is an extra year of earning potential. NCAA better be prepared for this. 21 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hearing now that Moyer leaving had less to do with potential PT next year, and more to do with Boeheim treating him like **** after his ankle injury. There may be some substance to Moyer having some influence over Bazley’s decision after all. Moyer was not good and that is putting it nicely. He might develop into something but he looked terrible and out of place every time he was on the court. Bayer looked like he belonged more than Moyer! lol I agree with your guys comments about Boeheim's coaching style to a point. It shouldn't be a surprise to these kids when Jimmy B acts like Jimmy B has for 40 years. When they commit to SU they know what they are signing up for or at least they should. That said he might want to soften a little bit. Something that has always annoyed me is that it seems there are some guys like Trevor Cooney that can make bone headed play after bone headed play and Boeheim doesn't say boo. Then he has his whipping boys that make a minor mistake and go to the bench immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, section122 said: This is what kids should be doing if they want to go pro. Don't do the sham commit, barely scrape by 1st semester, never attend 2nd semester, then declare. I like that this is available. Sucks that it burned Cuse but I like the idea for the player in general. Even though it isn't a ton of money it is an extra year of earning potential. NCAA better be prepared for this. Moyer was not good and that is putting it nicely. He might develop into something but he looked terrible and out of place every time he was on the court. Bayer looked like he belonged more than Moyer! lol I agree with your guys comments about Boeheim's coaching style to a point. It shouldn't be a surprise to these kids when Jimmy B acts like Jimmy B has for 40 years. When they commit to SU they know what they are signing up for or at least they should. That said he might want to soften a little bit. Something that has always annoyed me is that it seems there are some guys like Trevor Cooney that can make bone headed play after bone headed play and Boeheim doesn't say boo. Then he has his whipping boys that make a minor mistake and go to the bench immediately. I think Trevor Cooney didn't get the quick ax his So-JR-SR year because their weren't many other options it was like Howard this year... no real back up that could put up stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just wanted to check in and say I'm still frustrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Poojer said: Just wanted to check in and say I'm still frustrated Haha— I am with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 By the way, not to rub it in, but Donte DiVencenzo from Nova was between nova and cuse... and obviously went with them. Would have looked really good at the top of the zone for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Still salty ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Honestly, what goes through Bazley’s mind watching the final 4? This is why you play college ball. Not to play before 300 people in Soiux Falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Honestly, what goes through Bazley’s mind watching the final 4? This is why you play college ball. Not to play before 300 people in Soiux Falls. Hes selfish and doesn't care about hurting SUs program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Hes selfish and doesn't care about hurting SUs program I think he really wanted to play at ‘cuse. I don’t think he was going to be eligible, and made this decision to save face. Make it appear as though he willingly chose a year of the g-league over major college basketball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I think he really wanted to play at ‘cuse. I don’t think he was going to be eligible, and made this decision to save face. Make it appear as though he willingly chose a year of the g-league over major college basketball. The one problem I have with this is that he is presenting himself as a trailblazer and I worry if he will lead other guys astray. By the way, I read this snippet about the g league and this has to be a major risk for him— makes me think he should play overseas instead: Any G League team that drafts him won’t own his rights until he becomes eligible for the NBA draft, and once he turns 19 and declares, the team will lose all ownership rights to him. Because he can’t be called up to the next level, and doesn’t seem to be the kind of immediate, professional-level contributor that his peers will be, there may be little incentive for his future G League team to help him develop and give him minutes over players they have under long-term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I think he really wanted to play at ‘cuse. I don’t think he was going to be eligible, and made this decision to save face. Make it appear as though he willingly chose a year of the g-league over major college basketball. By all accounts he made up His mind a while ago to do this and never told Boeheim and Syracuse even if it was because of eligibility issues he should have informed SU way before he did he literally waited till end of march lol and the all anerican game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: By all accounts he made up His mind a while ago to do this and never told Boeheim and Syracuse even if it was because of eligibility issues he should have informed SU way before he did he literally waited till end of march lol and the all anerican game I haven’t heard any accounts that he made up his mind to do this a while ago. Where did you hear/see this? I know the media pundits are portraying him as a trailblazer, and it may turn out that way coincidentally, but I’m hearing that he was all-in on Cuse up until recently. Seems a bit odd to me, and certainly seems to support what my guy is saying about eligibility issues forcing his hand. Who knows? I completely agree with you that he gave the Cuse coaching staff the ultimate bag over the head punch in the face. I’m pissed, and I can’t imagine how the coaches feel. I hope in the future that NBA GM’s/coaches consider his actions as they relate to his character (maturity, loyalty, etc...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I would have to imagine that if it was eligibility issues, Boeheim would have had to know, perhaps he kept it under wraps until he was able to play in the mcd without any media distractions 26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: By all accounts he made up His mind a while ago to do this and never told Boeheim and Syracuse even if it was because of eligibility issues he should have informed SU way before he did he literally waited till end of march lol and the all anerican game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I haven’t heard any accounts that he made up his mind to do this a while ago. Where did you hear/see this? I know the media pundits are portraying him as a trailblazer, and it may turn out that way coincidentally, but I’m hearing that he was all-in on Cuse up until recently. Seems a bit odd to me, and certainly seems to support what my guy is saying about eligibility issues forcing his hand. Who knows? I completely agree with you that he gave the Cuse coaching staff the ultimate bag over the head punch in the face. I’m pissed, and I can’t imagine how the coaches feel. I hope in the future that NBA GM’s/coaches consider his actions as they relate to his character (maturity, loyalty, etc...). Let me see if I can find the article... I read it last night... basically Bazley said it wasn't an easy decision and it's been on his mind for a long time... he said he always has been a trend setter and not afraid to do different things at the least if it's been on his mind for a long time he should have told Boeheim ,which my friends still up there say didn't happen . Boeheim was shocked and pissed SU was actively promoting Bazley in the all American game... they had no idea Edited April 1, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: The one problem I have with this is that he is presenting himself as a trailblazer and I worry if he will lead other guys astray. By the way, I read this snippet about the g league and this has to be a major risk for him— makes me think he should play overseas instead: Any G League team that drafts him won’t own his rights until he becomes eligible for the NBA draft, and once he turns 19 and declares, the team will lose all ownership rights to him. Because he can’t be called up to the next level, and doesn’t seem to be the kind of immediate, professional-level contributor that his peers will be, there may be little incentive for his future G League team to help him develop and give him minutes over players they have under long-term contract. I read this also, and this makes his decision all the more head-scratching. I feel like there are only 2 possible scenarios here. Either he was not going to be eligible and the g league was his only option, or he stupidly made this decision based on promises of large sums of money (“loans”) from an agent. Could be that scenario A led to scenario B. 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Let me see if I can find the article... I read it last night... basically Bazley said it wasn't an easy decision and it's been on his mind for a long time... he said he always has been a trend setter and not afraid to do different things at the least if it's been on his mind for a long time he should have told Boeheim ,which my friends still up there say didn't happen Smokescreen ? Much easier to say it was his choice, rather than admitting that he was ineligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I read this also, and this makes his decision all the more head-scratching. I feel like there are only 2 possible scenarios here. Either he was not going to be eligible and the g league was his only option, or he stupidly made this decision based on promises of large sums of money (“loans”) from an agent. Could be that scenario A led to scenario B. Smokescreen ? Much easier to say it was his choice, rather than admitting that he was ineligible. But what about the whole SU still promoting him... if they knew... they wouldnt be promoting and hyping him up... they also got hit blindsided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: But what about the whole SU still promoting him... if they knew... they wouldnt be promoting and hyping him up... they also got hit blindsided No, I think you’re misunderstanding me. That coaching staff had no idea. I’m suggesting that him reporting that he had been thinking about doing this for a long time is pure BS. Again, I don’t know for certain, but I think he’s now trying to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: No, I think you’re misunderstanding me. That coaching staff had no idea. I’m suggesting that him reporting that he had been thinking about doing this for a long time is pure BS. Again, I don’t know for certain, but I think he’s now trying to save face. Ok. Are you saying he's ineligible do to academics? Or do to breaking NCAA violations possibly with agents and stuff? Which is what I feel you're referring too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ok. Are you saying he's ineligible do to academics? Or do to breaking NCAA violations possibly with agents and stuff? Which is what I feel you're referring too I heard from a friend who works in the athletic department that he was likely going to be academically ineligible, and that is why he made this decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I heard from a friend who works in the athletic department that he was likely going to be academically ineligible, and that is why he made this decision. That was my first thought... just stinks because we went from a very good team to a bunch of question marks in a weeks span Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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