thebandit27 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 You're not going to beat Brady with scheme, anyhow. The key to beating the Patriots is winning individual battles, particularly along the defensive line. Pressure in his face and disrupting his timing...gotta have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Personally, I think Atlanta's game plan vs Brady in the SB is a blueprint that should be emulated. Despite the "collapse"... a lot was done right especially in the 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 It's a new 3 year plan to get to 10 or 11 wins, would be nice if something good and unexpected happened before 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I have no nervous/anxious feelings about the Pats. We're really in no position to feel anyway about them. They're the cream. I've come around, they're one of those legendary teams people talk about. In a few decades Pats fans will talk about this team the way we talk about the 90's Bills. Unfortunately they're in our division so it directly affects us. Only one thing to do, the same thing the Pats did during our years. Keep plugging away, and wait out the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 If the cover guys can cover # the LOS and blanket their guy I'm good with it. Nothing irks me more is seeing the backfield give guys a 5 to 10 yard buffer. If you make Brady go through all his progressions then chances are you can put pressure on him. what those chances are ...... we all know its a low % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I have no nervous/anxious feelings about the Pats. We're really in no position to feel anyway about them. They're the cream. I've come around, they're one of those legendary teams people talk about. In a few decades Pats fans will talk about this team the way we talk about the 90's Bills. Unfortunately they're in our division so it directly affects us. Only one thing to do, the same thing the Pats did during our years. Keep plugging away, and wait out the storm. Yup, and be grateful the NFL moved Peyton Manning out of the Bills division for a second set of 2 pummellings in the division each year of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Personally, I think Atlanta's game plan vs Brady in the SB is a blueprint that should be emulated. Despite the "collapse"... a lot was done right especially in the 1st half. The problem with this is that Belichick probably agrees with you...and we all know how he's the best at adjusting....you can be sure that whatever the Falcons were doing in that 1st half, BB will make changes and make sure teams don't beat him that way...we'll need to come up with a different plan to beat them.....and to be honest, we don't have the horses ATL had on offense last year....they were historically good.... On a side note, we " worry " about their offense vs our D....and it's obviously a legit subject...but let's not forget that NE's defense was one of the best in the NFL last year...can't sleep on that either..... Edited April 3, 2017 by Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The problem with this is that Belichick probably agrees with you...and we all know how he's the best at adjusting....you can be sure that whatever the Falcons were doing in that 1st half, BB will make changes and make sure teams don't beat him that way...we'll need to come up with a different plan to beat them..... On a side note, we " worry " about their offense vs our D....and it's obviously a legit subject...but let's not forget that NE's defense was one of the best in the NFL last year...can't sleep on that either..... did they replace Shaq Mason yet? That's one adjustment he will need to make. One of the worst SB performances I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The problem with this is that Belichick probably agrees with you...and we all know how he's the best at adjusting....you can be sure that whatever the Falcons were doing in that 1st half, BB will make changes and make sure teams don't beat him that way...we'll need to come up with a different plan to beat them..... On a side note, we " worry " about their offense vs our D....and it's obviously a legit subject...but let's not forget that NE's defense was one of the best in the NFL last year...can't sleep on that either..... The Patriots baited the Falcons to punch themselves out. They planned it. What they didn't plan for was Brady throwing that INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 did they replace Shaq Mason yet? That's one adjustment he will need to make. One of the worst SB performances I've ever seen. They'll " coach him up " like they always do or just release him.....they'll then put a nobody in there and he'll play like a young Zack Martin...we've all seen it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Why be worried?The Seahawks, with their super simple C3 zone defense, were one poorly timed red zone slant away from beating the Pats* in the Super Bowl.The Giants, also running an aggressive but somewhat simplistic zone-based 4-3, beat the Pats* in the Super Bowl TWICE.To add to that, I would say I'm actually MORE optimistic about McDermott's defense vs the Pats*. Why? The big nickel he plans to run will be helpful in stopping the TE-centric offense that NE likes to run.Oh, and one MORE thing: McDermott is known as being methodical, obsessively process driven, and very concerned with minute details. That sounds like EXACTLY the kind of mind we need to finally have a chance to beat Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Patriots baited the Falcons to punch themselves out. They planned it. What they didn't plan for was Brady throwing that INT. They've been good for 16 years...but I don't think they baited the Falcons......they're not THAT good...even BB doesn't have the balls to do that in a SB game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 They've been good for 16 years...but I don't think they baited the Falcons......they're not THAT good...even BB doesn't have the balls to do that in a SB game.... why bother, the Seahawks and Falcons basically threw it away outthinking themselves. So you have that element to worry about with the Pats on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Patriots baited the Falcons to punch themselves out. They planned it. What they didn't plan for was Brady throwing that INT. Nah. The Falcons only lost because they over thought things and passed instead of ran the ball when they were in field goal range. Add that 3 to go up 11 with 4 minutes left and they'd have won. Make that TWO Super Bowls the Pats* have won now because the NFC team overthought things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 They'll " coach him up " like they always do or just release him.....they'll then put a nobody in there and he'll play like a young Zack Martin...we've all seen it.... oh I agree but the point is that Mason was not that bad (at all) the rest of the games. He had improved a ton. The Falcons made him look that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Both McDermott and Frazier have been going against Drew Brees and the Saints in the NFC South for years. Like the Falcons and Seahawks have been in the past two superbowl games with the Patriots, have to expect a mixture of tight man coverage with some other looks and strong front 4 pressure. It seems like the key will be if the Bills can tackle better after the catch. Based on the Panthers and Bucs last season, have to expect the Bills will improve with the new staff and some personnel moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Tactical questions matter. Zone or man? One or two gap? Where's the pressure coming from? Etc. But more important is execution. And I expect the players to execute McD's scheme better this year than Rex's scheme last year simply because I think McD will probably be a better, more thorough coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I expect early success, yes. The Pats have very little business intelligence on McDermott at this point and that's their bread and butter. If you want to know just how good they are at it, the second half of the last Super Bowl tells you. They had years of experience playing Rex Ryan. Rex never changed his scheme so it wasn't too hard to figure out. McDermott will be more of a challenge, at least at the outset. Exactly, I hope we play them week 1 @ Gillette. I think we will have a good chance to surprise them a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Yup, and be grateful the NFL moved Peyton Manning out of the Bills division for a second set of 2 pummellings in the division each year of his career. Ha... It would probably feel a lot like the Pats experienced with Kelly and Marino in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Don't worry about the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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