FireChan Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Have you ever been in a work environment where a superstar commands special treatment? Usually in these cases the special treatment only lasts if the star's contribution exceeds the pain and discord that he creates. Now in that vein, why keep Mario beyond January 4th? Actually this is hurting Rex. As a players coach he is not holding Mario accountable. Any other coach would have sat him down three weeks ago. I don't know what point Rex is trying to make by keeping him for 93%of the snaps. Thought you were being sarcastic. In watching more of the 2014 games it's clear that Spikes was the key loss and difference. No, I'm serious. If you honestly think he was that important, it wouldn't have been hard to keep him on board. Firmly agree on Rex. Keeping Mario around makes him look even more like a buffoon. Edited December 30, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 the not knowing anyting about Rex...how? this is the part that confuses me know anything about what should be expected from the defense? know what kinds of problems he's causing? I, by no means, am speaking for wawrow or with knowledge of anything specific But, to what I know about wawrow having met him at the openner a few times and having great conversationsmwith him he cannot speak about a lot of stuff or any such speculative thing per AP policy. He can't go on second hand knowledge or anything short of direct information from the players involved. What I believe he is saying means that Mario and that issue will not become clear until Mario is released. That while wawrow may know the reasons by hearsay or rumor that not has not come from Rex, Whaley or Mario = he can't say anything Which is interesting. Because wawrow isn't the only one getting this info. He has said he regularly has lunch with timmay and others, including Sullivan. That is why I do pay attention to their articles, they can publish what wawrow can't and have the same exact channels, usually. If you ever meet wawrow, ask him about the few times he broke some stories. He has a lot of great stories. Great guy. And like the last few years, come September he will have a jar of moonshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 No, I'm serious. If you honestly think he was that important, it wouldn't have been hard to keep him on board. Firmly agree on Rex. Keeping Mario around makes him look even more like a buffoon. More than meets the eye with the Brandon Spikes situation. SPECULATION: He's up to some weird stuff off the field that the organization (and 31 others) believe was more costly than the value of his on-field contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 More than meets the eye with the Brandon Spikes situation. SPECULATION: He's up to some weird stuff off the field that the organization (and 31 others) believe was more costly than the value of his on-field contributions. But he was on the Pats until he got in that accident, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 But he was on the Pats until he got in that accident, no? Signed in May cut in June. Was on the roster for three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 the not knowing anyting about Rex...how? this is the part that confuses me know anything about what should be expected from the defense? know what kinds of problems he's causing? i think he meant drawing conclusions about Rex's D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 So you are OK with keeping a quitter? Just get Mario back in a scheme he prefers and all is well? Just like that, huh? Whatever you say, coach. GO BILLS!!! two wrongs don't make a right. Have you ever been in a work environment where a superstar commands special treatment? Usually in these cases the special treatment only lasts if the star's contribution exceeds the pain and discord that he creates. Now in that vein, why keep Mario beyond January 4th? Actually this is hurting Rex. As a players coach he is not holding Mario accountable. Any other coach would have sat him down three weeks ago. I don't know what point Rex is trying to make by keeping him for 93%of the snaps. Thought you were being sarcastic. In watching more of the 2014 games it's clear that Spikes was the key loss and difference. Cap wise you get a much, much more favorable cap hit keeping him until June 1st. Like $7mm in savings. And yes I know its extremely rare such a talent is out there. But his talent far exceedes Rex Ryan's by all measures. Rex Ryan ruined Mario here andmaybe na few others. No, I'm serious. If you honestly think he was that important, it wouldn't have been hard to keep him on board. Firmly agree on Rex. Keeping Mario around makes him look even more like a buffoon. both look bad. Both are guilty of bull ****. Rex has put on a much better show. He knows how to appear clean and pretty innthismkind if drama shitfest henmhas known all along. Both are drama queens. Rex has liekly latched on to Mario as a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 the not knowing anyting about Rex...how? this is the part that confuses me know anything about what should be expected from the defense? know what kinds of problems he's causing? I'm guessing it's the type of problems MW is causing. We'll find out more later. I, by no means, am speaking for wawrow or with knowledge of anything specific But, to what I know about wawrow having met him at the openner a few times and having great conversationsmwith him he cannot speak about a lot of stuff or any such speculative thing per AP policy. He can't go on second hand knowledge or anything short of direct information from the players involved. What I believe he is saying means that Mario and that issue will not become clear until Mario is released. That while wawrow may know the reasons by hearsay or rumor that not has not come from Rex, Whaley or Mario = he can't say anything Which is interesting. Because wawrow isn't the only one getting this info. He has said he regularly has lunch with timmay and others, including Sullivan. That is why I do pay attention to their articles, they can publish what wawrow can't and have the same exact channels, usually. If you ever meet wawrow, ask him about the few times he broke some stories. He has a lot of great stories. Great guy. And like the last few years, come September he will have a jar of moonshine JW is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 No, I'm serious. If you honestly think he was that important, it wouldn't have been hard to keep him on board. Firmly agree on Rex. Keeping Mario around makes him look even more like a buffoon. He was circling in Orchard Park in the summer until Hoodie* signed him. My guess is that after the car accident he was poison to the league and there was probably a silent letter to the game from Roger. I also think that Rex believed that the LBs on the roster were good enough to execute his defense. He thought wrong. But my argument is that the main reason that Schwartz defense was so successful was because of Spikes. If the Bills didn't bring back Spikes if Schwartz had stayed, the defense would have been awful. two wrongs don't make a right. Cap wise you get a much, much more favorable cap hit keeping him until June 1st. Like $7mm in savings. And yes I know its extremely rare such a talent is out there. But his talent far exceedes Rex Ryan's by all measures. Rex Ryan ruined Mario here andmaybe na few others. both look bad. Both are guilty of bull ****. Rex has put on a much better show. He knows how to appear clean and pretty innthismkind if drama shitfest henmhas known all along. Both are drama queens. Rex has liekly latched on to Mario as a scapegoat. Sorry, but Rex has had greater success as a coach than Mario as a player. When the All pro with all universe talent can't help a team win, and then quits on that team,he needs to be shown the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He was circling in Orchard Park in the summer until Hoodie* signed him. My guess is that after the car accident he was poison to the league and there was probably a silent letter to the game from Roger. I also think that Rex believed that the LBs on the roster were good enough to execute his defense. He thought wrong. But my argument is that the main reason that Schwartz defense was so successful was because of Spikes. If the Bills didn't bring back Spikes if Schwartz had stayed, the defense would have been awful. Sorry, but Rex has had greater success as a coach than Mario as a player. When the All pro with all universe talent can't help a team win, and then quits on that team,he needs to be shown the door. Maybe. Luckily, when you defend the hypothetical coaching staff, you can just pretend that they definitely would've retained him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Maybe. Luckily, when you defend the hypothetical coaching staff, you can just pretend that they definitely would've retained him. I'm not sure you're the right person to be tisk tisking because someone openly speculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm not sure you're the right person to be tisk tisking because someone openly speculated. I think you misunderstood. I'm the one defending the hypothetical coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm guessing it's the type of problems MW is causing. We'll find out more later. JW is great. yolo had the quote. a leader without followers is a man walking alone. who's following mario? i do not think anyone is following him. but many would agree, do agree and view his statements as true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Maybe. Luckily, when you defend the hypothetical coaching staff, you can just pretend that they definitely would've retained him. I'm bridging the leaps of logic that say that Rex should have simply run Schwartz's defense and everything would have been fine. If Schwartz had stayed he probably would have insisted that Spikes be retained. Rex thought that he could get by with two lbs who looked decent last year. I'm sure he had his oh &@it moment in week two, but by then it was too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm bridging the leaps of logic that say that Rex should have simply run Schwartz's defense and everything would have been fine. If Schwartz had stayed he probably would have insisted that Spikes be retained. Rex thought that he could get by with two lbs who looked decent last year. I'm sure he had his oh &@it moment in week two, but by then it was too late. I'm not sure we even go after a darby type if we keep running Schwartz D. Schwartz was a ton of zone, with backers filling in those gaps in the running game. Leodis is actually a pretty good zone corner - while darby seems to prefer man coverage. Also, if people played this crappy in Schwartz scheme, we'd look even worse. We'd give up like 200 yards rushing per game if we tackled this poorly in a wide 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Apropos of Thurman's comment--some interesting words from Leodis McKelvin: “When everybody buys in, that’s when things happen,” he said. “When people aren’t sure with what they want to do, that’s when people are late or they mess up because they’re thinking too much. That’s how it’s been going this year — people don’t want to buy in. People don’t gel together. Half the people buy in, half the people go through the motions with it. You have to go out there and everybody has to be one. http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/12/30/mckelvin-wants-to-stay-with-bills-but/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It kills me to watch what Denver is doing with their D and knowing that we could run the same D in Buffalo with even better results if Rex could just get his head out of his @ss. Square peg meet round hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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