BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Henderson had a total of 4 plays where he did not handle his assignment well. 1. 1st Qtr 4:33 - bull rush by LB Houston description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 14 yard pass downfield 2. 2nd Qtr 13:35 - flagged for holding description - after engaging his man for over 4 seconds, Henderson grabbed him as Taylor abandoned the pocket to scramble right 3. 2nd Qtr 3:37 - speed rush by LB Hali description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 33 yard pass downfield 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor overall, Henderson pass blocked well - often left in 1:1 assignments, he kept his side of the pocket clean. when needed, he comfortably picked up the one stunt the Chiefs ran at his side. his run blocking was also solid, including combos where he worked to the LBs. This is the play in the 2nd quarter, where Henderson was flagged for the hold. This shot is 3/4 seconds after the snap. note the clean pocket, and passing lane to Watkins running a crossing pattern downfield. this is that same moment from the endzone. this is 4/5 seconds after the snap.. when Taylor has begun to abandon the pocket - past Henderson's man. yes, the Hali play in the 3rd resulted in a turnover - but after watching every offensive play of this game, i think Henderson played well - doing everything he was asked to do. i don't understand why some of you keep repeating things you hear, without investigating the truth behind the rhetoric. for those of you who do attempt to find the truth, i give you credit for that - but if you think Henderson's play vs KC was more negative than positive, you don't know what you're looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Henderson had a total of 4 plays where he did not handle his assignment well. 1. 1st Qtr 4:33 - bull rush by LB Houston description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 14 yard pass downfield 2. 2nd Qtr 13:35 - flagged for holding description - after engaging his man for over 4 seconds, Henderson grabbed him as Taylor abandoned the pocket to scramble right 3. 2nd Qtr 3:37 - speed rush by LB Hali description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 33 yard pass downfield 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor overall, Henderson pass blocked well - often left in 1:1 assignments, he kept his side of the pocket clean. when needed, he comfortably picked up the one stunt the Chiefs ran at his side. his run blocking was also solid, including combos where he worked to the LBs. This is the play in the 2nd quarter, where Henderson was flagged for the hold. This shot is 3/4 seconds after the snap. note the clean pocket, and passing lane to Watkins running a crossing pattern downfield. 2qtr1335-med.jpg this is that same moment from the endzone. 2qtr1335back-med.jpg this is 4/5 seconds after the snap.. when Taylor has begun to abandon the pocket - past Henderson's man. 2qtr1335back2-med.jpg yes, the Hali play in the 3rd resulted in a turnover - but after watching every offensive play of this game, i think Henderson played well - doing everything he was asked to do. i don't understand why some of you keep repeating things you hear, without investigating the truth behind the rhetoric. for those of you who do attempt to find the truth, i give you credit for that - but if you think Henderson's play vs KC was more negative than positive, you don't know what you're looking at. Good info. It's important to note that TT holds onto the ball forever at this point in his career which means they all have to hold their blocks Forever. It's a tougher job than other OLs have with more experienced QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Good info. It's important to note that TT holds onto the ball forever at this point in his career which means they all have to hold their blocks Forever. It's a tougher job than other OLs have with more experienced QBs. here's the Houston bull rush in the 1st qtr - the hit came from Hali after beating Clay on our left side - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 .. and here's the 'wiff' on Hali in the 2nd qtr - a few Chiefs got there too late to keep Taylor from completing the pass - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I agree with the previous poster who said Tyrod holds on to the ball too long. Any offensive lineman can't be expected to pass block for more than 3 seconds. Does anybody have stats on Tyrod's length of time holding the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I agree with the previous poster who said Tyrod holds on to the ball too long. Any offensive lineman can't be expected to pass block for more than 3 seconds. Does anybody have stats on Tyrod's length of time holding the ball?its usually 1-2-3 and then me screaming "THROW IT!" At the TV ...So unofficially 5.1 seconds on average I'm a fan of TT but he's definitely still in the development stage so we just don't have the benefit of a seasoned vet who has been in the same system for years and knows exactly what to do and where to go with the ball in 2 seconds. Edited December 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 its usually 1-2-3 and then me screaming "THROW IT!" At the TV ...So unofficially 5.1 seconds on average I'm a fan of TT but he's definitely still in the development stage so we just don't have the benefit of a seasoned vet who has been in the same system for years and knows exactly what to do and where to go with the ball in 2 seconds. guess somebody has to go back to earlier games to see when his aversion to the middle of the field began.. because his skipping past those is becoming a tendency that DCs will make note of. it's not just the horizontal routes, it's the seams, too. strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) guess somebody has to go back to earlier games to see when his aversion to the middle of the field began.. because his skipping past those is becoming a tendency that DCs will make note of. it's not just the horizontal routes, it's the seams, too. strange. the all-22 showed one throw he made to the MOF. but also pointed out 3 of his 4 INTs this season were to MOF. Edited December 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 the all-22 showed one throw he made to the MOF. but also pointed out 3 of his 4 INTs this season were to MOF. well, there's that.. the thing is, Roman's still threatening the center, and guys are coming free - so the expectation is there to make the plays. let's hope it just as simple as him not developing a sense of anticipation on these, yet - because i do like the skills he brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor If Woods make an easy catch that hit him the chest with no one within 10 yards of him this never happens on the next play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 well, there's that.. the thing is, Roman's still threatening the center, and guys are coming free - so the expectation is there to make the plays. let's hope it just as simple as him not developing a sense of anticipation on these, yet - because i do like the skills he brings for all we know, Roman is ripping him a new one in film study for that reason. Must drive him nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 for all we know, Roman is ripping him a new one in film study for that reason. Must drive him nuts! well, he hasn't fought anyone over lawn furniture yet, so he's not that far gone yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Henderson had a total of 4 plays where he did not handle his assignment well. 1. 1st Qtr 4:33 - bull rush by LB Houston description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 14 yard pass downfield 2. 2nd Qtr 13:35 - flagged for holding description - after engaging his man for over 4 seconds, Henderson grabbed him as Taylor abandoned the pocket to scramble right 3. 2nd Qtr 3:37 - speed rush by LB Hali description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 33 yard pass downfield 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor overall, Henderson pass blocked well - often left in 1:1 assignments, he kept his side of the pocket clean. when needed, he comfortably picked up the one stunt the Chiefs ran at his side. his run blocking was also solid, including combos where he worked to the LBs. This is the play in the 2nd quarter, where Henderson was flagged for the hold. This shot is 3/4 seconds after the snap. note the clean pocket, and passing lane to Watkins running a crossing pattern downfield. 2qtr1335-med.jpg this is that same moment from the endzone. 2qtr1335back-med.jpg this is 4/5 seconds after the snap.. when Taylor has begun to abandon the pocket - past Henderson's man. 2qtr1335back2-med.jpg yes, the Hali play in the 3rd resulted in a turnover - but after watching every offensive play of this game, i think Henderson played well - doing everything he was asked to do. i don't understand why some of you keep repeating things you hear, without investigating the truth behind the rhetoric. for those of you who do attempt to find the truth, i give you credit for that - but if you think Henderson's play vs KC was more negative than positive, you don't know what you're looking at. well , you have ruined it for me. I was getting a crusade going . Attack on the Castle averted. This time.... guess somebody has to go back to earlier games to see when his aversion to the middle of the field began.. because his skipping past those is becoming a tendency that DCs will make note of. it's not just the horizontal routes, it's the seams, too. strange. It's a concern. Thats why i am firm about him trusting the pocket to break away cleanly and him to step up and see the field. Those guys have given him that more than one occasion of late. 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor If Woods make an easy catch that hit him the chest with no one within 10 yards of him this never happens on the next play. Soo Taylor can read? and adjust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That's an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I don't know, but it seems like every time I see the endzone views of Taylor in the pocket, he has ample space in a good passing lane to see the play develop and he just won't pull the trigger on open receivers crossing the middle. Too many plays left on the field to call him a good QB at this point. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Henderson had a total of 4 plays where he did not handle his assignment well. 1. 1st Qtr 4:33 - bull rush by LB Houston description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 14 yard pass downfield 2. 2nd Qtr 13:35 - flagged for holding description - after engaging his man for over 4 seconds, Henderson grabbed him as Taylor abandoned the pocket to scramble right 3. 2nd Qtr 3:37 - speed rush by LB Hali description - rush didn't impact Taylor, who remained in the pocket and completed a 33 yard pass downfield 4. 3rd Qtr 9:50 - speed rush by LB Hali description - Hali strip / sacked Taylor overall, Henderson pass blocked well - often left in 1:1 assignments, he kept his side of the pocket clean. when needed, he comfortably picked up the one stunt the Chiefs ran at his side. his run blocking was also solid, including combos where he worked to the LBs. This is the play in the 2nd quarter, where Henderson was flagged for the hold. This shot is 3/4 seconds after the snap. note the clean pocket, and passing lane to Watkins running a crossing pattern downfield. 2qtr1335-med.jpg this is that same moment from the endzone. 2qtr1335back-med.jpg this is 4/5 seconds after the snap.. when Taylor has begun to abandon the pocket - past Henderson's man. 2qtr1335back2-med.jpg yes, the Hali play in the 3rd resulted in a turnover - but after watching every offensive play of this game, i think Henderson played well - doing everything he was asked to do. i don't understand why some of you keep repeating things you hear, without investigating the truth behind the rhetoric. for those of you who do attempt to find the truth, i give you credit for that - but if you think Henderson's play vs KC was more negative than positive, you don't know what you're looking at. Thank you for being the voice of reason and saving me the time to do this. There are certain posters here and media members (e.g., Joe B) who have had a crusade going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thank you for being the voice of reason and saving me the time to do this. There are certain posters here and media members (e.g., Joe B) who have had a crusade going. np.. i can understand how some walk away from viewing a game with an 'impression' that this player performed well, and this one didn't.. but it's not called "coach's film" for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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